Tinidril,

They aren’t protecting us from TikTok, they are protecting themselves from us. They put a lot of resources into controlling mass media then got blindsided by social media. Now they have social media mostly under control, but only in this country. They can’t risk the next Bernie Sanders giving people hope for a better world.

TheControlled,

Yeah that’s about right. What exactly is the point of this post?

TootSweet,

Isn’t Zoom supposed to be basically Chinese spyware too? Why are they trying to ban TikTok and not Zoom?

Rhetoical question. I know why. Zoom helps funnel more money to shareholders.

4am,

Because the bill lets them ban anything that they want, not just TikTok. All the have to do is assert “foreign influence” and they can block, censor, or force sale to “American interests”.

Basically these motherfuckers are doing their best to make it so you only see, hear, and read what they want. And if that’s not actually their intent, they’re leaving the door wide open for the next guy to do it.

Viking_Hippie,

And if the current guy doesn’t get his shit together, that next guy is going to be the former guy and then the entire world’s fucked.

Maggoty,

Not true. They have to show that the company is headquartered in or owned by the “sensitive country”.

Giant loophole for American Data vendors and marketers to sell data and targeted advertising to China. (Which is just an algorithm by a different name.)

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Because the bill lets them ban anything that they want, not just TikTok. All the have to do is assert “foreign influence” and they can block, censor, or force sale to “American interests”.

How long until this is used against a Fediverse instance?

LinkOpensChest_wav,
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adam_y,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds to me like they don’t want to ban it, they want it sold to American business at a massively discounted rate. Standard mafia shit.

cybersandwich,

I did hear a solid counter point recently.

All American social media is banned in China. Effectively, if we don’t do something like this, the Chinese social media becomes the biggest (because they restrict ours but we wouldn’t restrict theirs).

Mafia shit or international power politics shit.

The danger here is they could do this to Facebook or Instagram in other countries (eg India)and use this as a precedent. I’m not sure India wants to pick that fight with the US, but this is all a weird game that’s being played.

But yes, on the surface, and the immediate impact, this seems like such a fucking dumb tone deaf thing that our legislature pushed through without most Americans wanting this.

adam_y,
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a fair point, it is a game as much as it is a racket.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

If they had happened to write a good privacy law that happened to prevent most of Tik Tok’s abuses, I’d have way less of a problem with it because then US companies who do the same shit would have to follow the same rules. But instead we let Zuckerberg and Musk do the exact same shit without repercussions.

But we have a government that’s basically carriage with a steam engine bolted on plus a V8 and also rockets and the thing is broken beyond repair and we just have to wait until most people realize that to get out because they didn’t install emergency exits.

AdmiralShat,

Culture war bullshit honestly

Pilferjinx,

As long as it doesn’t hurt corporate profits, actual change can hapoen.

Bleach7297,
@Bleach7297@lemmy.ca avatar

They’re not protecting you from Tiktok. They are protecting their interests from China.

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Not even. They’re doing it for cheap nationalistic points.

iamtrashman1312,

As someone who’s never used tiktok, has no interest in doing so, and finds the whole platform + 99.99% of the content dumb as all fucking fuck:

The US government can eat my shit and hair

OKRainbowKid,

Is the distribution significantly different on other social media platforms? Because if not, what you’re insinuating might not actually be real.

radiohead37,

Whataboutism

Maggoty,

No. I really do want my government to focus on governing instead of handing itself unprecedented and unconstitutional powers to force private sales.

_number8_,

frfr, i can’t believe how many smug takes i saw about this the day it passed. left and right giddy to oppress the youth just because the dances are stupid

OftenWrong,

It’s not even just an app full of kids or even dancing. If it ever was that was well before my time. I’m sure it still exists but it never makes it to me. It’s full of young adults and millennials these days. Other than the outrage over the genocide by Isreal another current big drama going around is about NC rep Jeff Jackson because he got a huge following on TikTok and then voted to ban it. There’s also a big thing about boycotting kellogs and we’ve been pretty active in discussing businesses that are stifling unions. Hell, half the front page of reddit is just badly cropped TikTok videos these days anyway lol

Well, ok. I lied. Sometimes I do get dancing videos: www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLFVoyUw/

pachrist,

This post is inaccurate. It fails to state that you actually work 2 jobs each at 25 hours a week so neither megacorp has to provide any benefits, and you’ll be fired from one next week because despite requesting otherwise they keep scheduling overlapping shifts and you can only go to one job at a time.

m13,

“These are OUR slaves!”

qevlarr,
@qevlarr@lemmy.world avatar

Who said the government doesn’t do anything for the public?

peepee_longstonking,

The very concept of a state is the problem.

State - a group of people who claim they are allowed to use violence to get their way and that nobody else is allowed to protect themselves from this violence.

(Others may define “state” to be essentially synonymous with “government”. The above definition contains the only quality in common with every entity I am speaking of.)

There is no reality in which any state is not taken over by those willing to cause the harm necessary to do so.

This does not mean the best course of action is attempted immediate destruction of any state, that will cause the boot to stomp harder on us. The best course of action is minimize dependence on the economic system that state depends on. That is to say, growing some portion of your food is just about as radical as it gets.

Crashumbc,

The government isn’t protecting us from tictok, they are protecting themselves…

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