Kusimulkku,

For me, it’s Civ IV

djsoren19,

I’m interested to see what changes they’ll be making from 6 to 7. 6 was kinda panned on release, and games like Humankind and Age of Wonders 4 have introduced serious competition to the 4x genre in the years since.

Krauerking,

I actually stopped being friends with my college friends because of online games.

They literally would have me buy a game to play 30 minutes of it, get bored and then demand we play League of Legends or Valorant if they wanted to try and hit on girls in voice chat. They literally complain about how broke they are either living with their parents or in an apartment wlthey can barely afford and showed me how they spent at least $10k on League skins each over the years.

I just can’t throw away money like they do and never did. Plus the incel like behavior and really awful things they say while getting upset if you make fun of them at all has this air of delicate mentality that can’t handle any kind of stress even if it’s figuring out a new game made me want nothing to do with them.

So now I play single player games again or stardew because my SO only plays it.

FiniteBanjo,

Sounds like you’re just whipped but at least you’re happy.

Krauerking,

Because when I decide to play multiplayer I end up playing stardew with someone I enjoy spending time with?

Gosh I really thought the concept of whipped was dead though so thanks for that blast to precovid past.

FiniteBanjo, (edited )

Yeah that’s exactly it, you cut off all of your friends permanently and only spend time with your SO. Whipped. Whipped af.

Really hope you’re in the 1/3 of relationships that last longer than a few years.

Krauerking,

It had nothing to do with the SO.

And I’m already past a few years. Can’t wait to see what part of statistics of men you end up being.

Edit: also what do you get in life being a jackass to others?

FiniteBanjo,

For somebody most certainly not guilty of being whipped you’re awful defensive, rn. If I’m wrong then just laugh it off, mate.

Krauerking,

You sure are being awfully touchy on the subject for someone not getting any action.

FiniteBanjo,

lol

Krauerking,

By the way I don’t have to laugh off your shitty attempts at being “funny” I can also rightfully call you the jackass you are and fuck off.

Don’t be a douche to others for your own amusement. Or do and expect to be told you’re being a cunt.

FiniteBanjo,

lol

bruhduh, (edited )
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

freeciv ftw www.freecivweb.org

deaf_fish,
bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, i installed it on my 4k smart tv, it’s good to play it sitting on couch

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I gave up on Civ after you couldn’t automate settlers anymore. I really don’t need to spend time manually connecting my cities with roads. That’s just unnecessary grinding.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
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With Civ VI the traders build the roads, so you just send a trader between cities you want a road built on.

Works just about the same except the source city gets some resources

FlyingSquid, (edited )
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That’s definitely a little better, although honestly even doing the farmland stuff with every settler per turn is a huge PITA. It’s just not what I play Civ games for. It’s always been possible to not have them automated if you don’t want them automated and not automated was the default. I don’t understand why they took that option away.

It just felt like V was a huge amount more about grinding. Sounds like that’s been somewhat rectified at least.

FiniteBanjo,

On one hand it allowed you the freedom to manually decide if increasing tile upkeep was worth it and therefor gave rise to new strategies, but on the other hand it’s kind of not worth it 90% of the time.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But didn’t you always have that freedom? You could always play without automating any settlers or automating some and not others. Or am I not understanding what you’re saying?

FiniteBanjo,

Ah sorry, I always played manually in Civ V so I kind of assumed that wasn’t the case in earlier titles I haven’t played. My bad, I was confused.

kamen,

Friends? You guys have friends?

razorwiregoatlick,
@razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world avatar

Who actually plays Civ multiplayer?

UnfortunateShort,

I know this won’t help you a whole lot, but I do.

Thrashy,
@Thrashy@lemmy.world avatar

The play-by-email mode was broken to the point of uselessness in Civ5 and I don’t think they fixed in it in 6 (you had to have an always-on Windows desktop system running the server, and because the game logic was integrated into the graphics engine you couldn’t run it headless, and then on top of that there was basically no working system to coordinate active DLCs between players so most of the time people couldn’t join even if you did get the damn thing running) so my friends and I tried once and gave up. I would love for 7 to have a robust PBEM system so that we can play together without needing to spend hours a week watching paint dry while everybody else plots their turns, but I’m not holding my breath.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

(you had to have an always-on Windows desktop system running the server, and because the game logic was integrated into the graphics engine you couldn’t run it headless, and then on top of that there was basically no working system to coordinate active DLCs between players so most of the time people couldn’t join even if you did get the damn thing running)

Jesus fuck. You should be able to run a game of Civ as a series of XML files, with the GUI being practically perfunctory. I am disappointed that the game isn’t backwards compatible, much less that you can’t integrate between DLCs.

What is functionally a feature-rich version of Diplomacy shouldn’t be this hard to integrate in Play-by-Post.

Blackmist,

They should have it so if one player has DLC, everyone gets to use it in multiplayer. It Takes Two works for players that haven’t even bought the game, and that’s published by EA ffs.

2K really are the greediest mfs out there.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

They should have it so if one player has DLC, everyone gets to use it in multiplayer.

Or just gray-out DLC based options. I don’t even think that’s a big deal at the end of the day. The Total War series manages this just fine, and they’re a much heavier lift in terms of game structure.

2K really are the greediest mfs out there.

Blizzard is greedy, the way they shove “buy me! buy me! buy me!” links into every corner of their interface. But 2k is just sloppy, phoning it in on their catalog of accrued titles with marginal graphics improvements as stand-in for any kind of game play polish.

Decoy321,

Oh hey, a new civ! It’s been a while since Gandhi nuked me.

Etterra,

Why anyone ever plays multiplayer is s confounding mystery to me. They must like being forced to rush and being abused.

FiniteBanjo,

Ha, those friggin normies and their friendships. Whats up with that? Almost like spending time with people you trust and care about causes neuroendocrinal response of dopamine and endorphins resulting in feelings of happiness and fulfillment.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

causes neuroendocrinal response of dopamine and endorphins resulting in feelings of happiness and fulfillment.

Do people really feel that way? I’m just drained and glad to be home alone again.

FiniteBanjo,

It’s not a constant 100% result, but yeah it’s kind of a well established natural phenomenon. Couldn’t stop it if you wanted to. Some people can get the same benefit solely from having their comments upvoted, we process it the same as regular human interaction. Bonus points exist for huggers.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Some people can get the same benefit solely from having their comments upvoted

That’s about all the human interaction I can stand most days

Jakeroxs, (edited )

I consider myself to have a pretty small social battery, but gaming online on discord isn’t nearly as draining as being physically with people at someone’s house or something, maybe I’m just weird.

Even then, had some great times on Civ5 with everyone over at my place playing on our laptops and chillin/watching TV or just talking at the same time

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Do people really feel that way?

Being around people I know and like is incredibly pleasant and relaxing, particularly when we’re all engaged in an activity together - volleyball or board game night or watching a movie together.

The trick I’ve found is to do something everyone vibes with and that has incredibly low stakes. So, like, carving pumpkins during Halloween or splitting a bottle of wine and complaining about work together or visiting a museum.

Its nice to have people saying and doing things that you wouldn’t normally say or do. And its nice to have other people responding to your own thoughts and feelings.

Daxtron2,

Sounds like you have shitty friends lol, my group would never do that.

Etterra,

Almost all my friends have kids now, so group anything is basically impossible, assuming we we even want to do the same thing at the same time.

Zoot,
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Doscord friends! You can make quite a few friend groups to play games with that way. I’ve got a group where we are either playing DnD, or were finding the next coolest game for us all to enjoy.

johannesvanderwhales,

Seems like it’s a valid choice in a competitive game. Unless there’s an option to disable military victories or explicitly play coop.

Daxtron2,

I don’t consider abusing my friends because they’re slower than me in a turn based strategy a good thing to do.

johannesvanderwhales,

…It occurs to me that I am interpreting “rush” in the RTS sense of attacking early before your opponent is ready, not in the sense of pressuring people to take their turns faster.

Daxtron2,

Haha yeah that makes sense why you would think that. Could definitely be taken either way.

Meron35,

Team Humans Vs Team AI is a very fun option. Lots of civs have really fun team synergy.

IzzyScissor,

I’ve been playing couch co-op with my husband on both of our Switches. It’s not too bad if you don’t force a turn timer. The game will give you a ding when you’re the last one to play, but we both have ‘side games’ or play with our cats in the meantime if the other needs more time. I wouldn’t do it online or with a turn timer, though.

Zehzin,
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I’m sorry, I’m that friend that gets really into Civ and spends way too long coming up with optimal strategies. I know it’s a problem and I won’t stop.

Land_Strider,

Have you tried Googling everything and spending tens of hours making optimal progress flowcharts that require hours to read over instead of playing the game?

Or, you know, just pour everything into science and forget don’t dare about getting distracted by other game mechanics.

s/ in case.

hakase,

And 5 was a significant downgrade from 4.

psmgx,

Still hasn’t been a better experience than Alpha Centauri

Decoy321,

That game was a fuckin masterpiece. I actually don’t want it remade because I worry it would never live up to the original.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Occasionally they just give games updated graphics and audio. I’d be fine if that was how they remade it. They did that with Grim Fandango and it was just as fun as the original.

Decoy321,

I can agree with that. In fact, I just played the System Shock remake and found it quite enjoyable. It kept the same vibe and feel while just updating the cosmetic aspects and having a few QoL changes for some of the mechanics. The maps and story felt the same, and I enjoyed the nostalgic feel of playing it again.

Maybe I wouldn’t mind an alpha centauri remake. They’d only have to update the cosmetics and the UI, after all.

Kolanaki,
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4 is peak for me. The only thing I dislike about 4 is the unit stacking making it hard to know if a unit is just 1 unit or 20 dudes in the same spot.

kinther,
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Back in the day I used to check out civfanatics.com for mods. There were tons for Civ4:BTS that made it so much cooler. After playing that and then playing Civ5, I was incredibly disappointed. Civ6 is better, but not by much. I still go back to Civ4 when I need my “one more turn” fix.

SuddenDownpour,

Fall from Heaven 2? Rise of Mankind? Caveman to Cosmos? Rhyes and Falls of Civilization? Dawn of Mankind? Planetfall? Mars Now? How about all of them at once?

Civ 4 was a goddamn library of 4X games. I still reinstall it after every few years.

JackbyDev,

I hated the stacks. Idk why, but it was always confusing how big they should be. When they can’t stack it makes more sense to me. How many troops do I need? As many as I can fit.

Kolanaki,
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Just enough to encircle the thing I want to eliminate/capture. It actually works with a stack, too. Like 8 dudes is enough for the default difficulty most of the time.

Toneswirly,

It gets less fun for me every iteration. Cant say im excited for Civ 7

merari42,

I played all of civ 6 there is an I loved it. The add-ons were great and districts were definitely a cool idea. Civ 5 however had the better art style.

Lumisal,

Well considering this ideas were taken from Endless Legend, you should give that a try. Or if you want something more Civ like, they also have Humankind, which is like Civ but better and the AI is really good (they made it even better now than before, and it was already way ahead of Civ’s NPC AIs). They also have a unique win condition with Fame.

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