The lawsuit accusing Trump of raping a 13-year-old girl, explained

Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein — the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls.

Johnson said Trump had sexual contact with her at four of those parties, including tying her to a bed and violently raping her in a “savage sexual attack.” The lawsuit said Johnson “loudly pleaded” with Trump to stop, but that he responded by “violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.”

mryessir,

Americans influenced everything in my life.

I hope they collaborate onto better goals.

Buckle up.

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

I am afraid to think that soon we will find ourselves discussing whether or not someone who has raped a girl can run for presidency

JasonDJ,

Current court might decide it’s a requirement. Look at Jefferson.

Although they might decide that it’s not rape if it’s a slave. Which might make 13th amendment interpretations interesting.

fne8w2ah,

And no MAGAtard worth their trash has ever linked their God-Emperor to that pervert Epstein. 😡🤬

paf0,

MAGAtard? They prefer MAGAt or MAGAholic

Suavevillain,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

It is amazing how there is no line that Trump/GOP are willing to cross for this man. I’ve never seen a guy make so many people admit they have no moral backbone at all. Everything they hate and say other groups are he is.

Criminal ✅

Con-Man ✅

Rapist ✅

Racist (They enjoy this.) ✅

Hostile insurrection. ✅

Asafum,

Criminal ✅ Illegal Democrat Witch Hunt

Con-Man ✅ Media Lies

Rapist ✅ Fake News

Racist (They enjoy this.) ✅ Democrats are the real DEI racists.

Hostile insurrection. ✅ Peaceful protest.

Unfortunately for them this is what that list is.

We live in 2 or more realities existing simultaneously due to the real scum of the earth: propagandists.

todd_bonzalez,

Yeah man, Trumpists and Propagandists, two mutually exclusive groups…

sgtgig,

Most Trumpists have been duped by propagandists. It’s more comforting to them to believe the fake news talking points than to admit “their guy” is actually a vile waste of skin.

Fedizen,

I think its also that “free speech” has become “you can lie to anyone for any reason and recieve almost no consequences” and in the age where media can be pushed and spun faster than it can be read there’s just no way our existing system can handle it.

This is why there’s a clear parallel to the 1940s where broadcast mediums pretty much did the same thing.

Now everyone has a megaphone and you get extra money if it snags eyeballs.

franklin, (edited )
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Whoops I missed the last line! My bad.

sgtgig,

I don’t get why people are down voting you. This is exactly it. They have an infinite layer of lies on lies to spin all of this stuff.

Gloomy,
@Gloomy@mander.xyz avatar

Yep, spot on. When you read trough their new media and their forums, this is ant it comes down to.

zarkanian,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Try asking a Democrat to name one thing that Biden could do that would make them not vote for him.

To be fair, though, I don’t think that Biden would’ve gotten the nomination if he were as scummy as Trump.

StaySquared,

AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TokenBoomer,

538 upvotes on an article from 2016. This rape allegation was known in 2016:

A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump, then a candidate for president, of raping a minor, but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped.

PugJesus,

but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped.

The case was dropped because the victim received death threats from Trump’s fanclub.

Kusimulkku,

The whole case was also really suspicious, like the article said. People, including the only reporter who got to interview the woman (over a phone call) wasn’t even sure if the person actually ever existed. Seeing that this is a fairly old article, I wonder if we got any new info on this.

YeetPics,

Oh well if he raped the 13 year old child 8 years ago it’s all fine. Statute of limitations on ethics and all.

/s

blazeknave,

But her emails. But his stutter.

Doomsider,

But, but Biden!!!

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Biden sniffs hair and loves his son yuck!

/s

irreticent,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

Both sides!!1! /s

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Not here to start a fight. I get the annoyance at the whataboutism, but the list of allegations against Biden is much longer.

BaldManGoomba,

What list? Also quite literally Trump has been tried and was considered guilty of grapes. Literally admits to walking around nude children and touching women because he is a star

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In, (edited )

Not here to defend Trump. Nor imply he can be defended.

What list?

Not here to start a fight. Just saying that Biden haters have more on their list than your two items.

grue,

Them being more willing to make up a firehouse of random bullshit means nothing.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

It does if you want piercing satire.

Faking whataboutism is very different to pretending your guy is whiter than white.

BigMacHole,

He Raped that LITTLE GIRL as an OFFICIAL Act of the Presidency!

rottingleaf,

offtopic: Other than Trump and MAGAts using it, such capitalization could look interesting. As something, indeed, characteristically American. And it might make texts more legible sometimes (I’m not joking), a bit like with Bionic Reader.

Olhonestjim,

And he’d do it again too.

_thebrain_,

I don’t excuse the media for not talking about this, but I also don’t think it would matter if they put it on a 24 hour news cycle and shouted it from the rooftops. Or if they used the emergency broadcast system to send the story directly to every phone owning American. The cult of trump just doesn’t care. My (ugg) Facebook feed is full of people saying that felony’s don’t matter when it cost them some extra cash to buy groceries. I see people almost daily wearing clothing proclaiming they are voting for the felon. They just do not care about what ever he has done.

TrickDacy,

You’re right and it’s terrifying. I don’t see any way to fix it besides maybe forming a new non-fascist country

EatATaco,

The media talked about it plenty. This story is 4 years old. How often do the expect the media to report on unfounded allegations by someone who dropped the case?

tacosanonymous,

Is this the one where the girl and her mother were constantly threatened so they refused to testify and moved away?

Kusimulkku,

The (second) case against Trump was dropped after Jane Doe got death threats. Not sure if that’s what you mean. The article does mention " two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to". Was that a girl and her mother?

FiniteBanjo,

Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.

Trump raped a 13 year old girl.

AbidanYre,

Aren’t those different cases?

Doomsider,

Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.

AbidanYre, (edited )

Holy crap, I hope that’s not what you think I was saying.

Doomsider,

It is hard to tell when you are dealing with a serial rapist.

Nelots,

This particular case is, technically, an accusation, though. Even if we’re all just about certain that it’s true.

Doomsider,

Sure, I heard he totally respects women’s rights. He would be never think of purposely walking in on a young girl changing… Ohh wait

Nelots,

Did you even read what I said? I agree with you there. But technically, and I’m only bringing this up because you originally did, it is an accusation.

Doomsider,

Suuuure, I am just calling bullshit on it. You are okay, even if your playing devils advocate to a rapist.

Kusimulkku,

Jesus fucking Christ with you people.

Doomsider,

For real, it gets old giving an admitted and adjudicated rapist the benefit of the doubt. Here you are though exacerbated by the cruelty of calling a spade a spade.

Apparently we can’t talk shit about a piece of shit because we may hurt your sensibility.

Kusimulkku,

It’s amazing how relentlessly someone can misjudge the intention of messages.

Doomsider,

It is amazing how butthurt someone can get when they perceive their message was misunderstood. Herein lies the problem, I did not misunderstand rather just introduced sarcasm and ridicule to cope with how fucked the situation is.

Ridiculous situations are deserving of ridicule. When someone takes it personally it shows they have an invested interest. I am to believe they are on my side and just clarifying a technicality.

This guy has survived his entire life on legal technicalities using this as a tool to continue raping and looting all that is around him. We are to have a civil conversation about something that is so uncivil it literally breaks the normal social contracts that exist. Instead of focusing on this we are worried about feelings being hurt.

The circle jerk you guys are building up to is rather momentous.

Kusimulkku,

This situation definitely deserves ridicule but I think you’ve managed to do more damage yourself than I could’ve.

Doomsider,

See, here we are again worried about your feelings. I guess you did help prove a point though.

Kusimulkku,

Truly a baffling comment. The other person was just saying that since it wasn’t proven it technically was just an accusation and you threw a shitfit about that.

Doomsider,

I suppose the irony of using the same tactics the Rapist in Chief uses is lost on you. Please keep up the circle jerk, it is pretty amusing watching you at this point.

Kusimulkku,

What is the tactic?

Doomsider,

The former POTUS has been in thousands of court cases. He is one of the most litigious individuals of all time. His entire adult life has been in the courtroom using technicalities to avoid responsibility.

When someone defends him on a technicality that is the very definition of irony. OP was wrong to do this so they got some ridicule. Rightfully so.

The situation itself is so absurd it is at times hard to comprehend. For instance, just because it has not or cannot be proven in courtroom beyond a shadow of a doubt does not mean it didn’t happen.

So OP can take their smugness about being technically correct and stick it.

Kusimulkku,

Right. But the person said it wasn’t an accusation because Trump lost the lawsuit. And that’s something that’s just wrong. It’s not a technicality or even a defence to point out such an error, they were just wrong about him losing the case. Someone pointing out a big factual error shouldn’t be cause for this sort of shitfit, if you ask me.

Doomsider, (edited )

No one did and your faux outrage is just as bullshit as you are. You don’t know the difference between a shitfit and sarcasm so pardon me if I don’t trust your reading comprehension.

You don’t have any skin in this game, you have never been raped nor do you have daughters. Just another rape apologist pretending to be a bro.

Kusimulkku,

Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe Link to comment

From the article, right below the title

The anonymous plaintiff dropped her lawsuit against Trump (vox.com/…/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-jo…)

Wikipedia:

A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13-year-old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein’s Manhattan residence in 1994. The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old. It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats. (en.wikipedia.org/…/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct…)

You don’t have to trust my reading comprehension since the comment and the links are right there. Surely you trust your own comprehension.

You don’t have any skin in this game, you have never been raped nor do you have daughters. Just another rape apologist pretending to be a bro.

It’s not rape apologia to say that Trump didn’t lose the case. Unless you are accusing Vox (and Wikipedia) of rape apologia.

Doomsider,

I never even disputed that. Yes, you are incapable of reading comprehension. You can’t read the room and often miss the point. It is painfully obvious.

Kusimulkku,

Person 1:

Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.

Trump raped a 13 year old girl.

Person 2:

Aren’t those different cases?

You:

Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.

The person 2 wasn’t even giving the benefit of the doubt, they were just confused about what case the earlier person was talking about (likely because Trump didn’t lose the mentioned Jane Doe case)

Person 3:

This particular case is, technically, an accusation, though. Even if we’re all just about certain that it’s true.

You:

Sure, I heard he totally respects women’s rights. He would be never think of purposely walking in on a young girl changing… Ohh wait

Person 3:

Did you even read what I said? I agree with you there. But technically, and I’m only bringing this up because you originally did, it is an accusation.

I think here Person 3 thought you were Person 1 who originally said the “technically not an accusation” thing.

You:

Suuuure, I am just calling bullshit on it. You are okay, even if your playing devils advocate to a rapist.

That’s when I commented. I really don’t know how this looks to you (and it gets worse from there) but nobody was playing devil’s advocate, nobody was giving benefit of the doubt even, there was no rape apologia. I’m not sure if it was meant to be a joke on your part but it just seems like you misinterpreted what was being said and flew off the handle.

Doomsider,

I guess Sarcasm really is above some people. I never disputed what they said no matter how hard you want to twist this narrative.

I just answered their pondering with sarcasm because of how ridiculous this whole thing is.

You must be on the spectrum to push this hard on me being snarky.

Kusimulkku,

I guess Sarcasm really is above some people. I never disputed what they said no matter how hard you want to twist this narrative.

Everyone knew it was sarcasm but why you decided to start all sarcastic about it.

I just answered their pondering with sarcasm because of how ridiculous this whole thing is.

What was ridiculous about it, in your mind?

You must be on the spectrum to push this hard on me being snarky.

I don’t think they take that kind of comments well here. I don’t mind but just a heads up.

Doomsider,

Classic overreact to my overreaction.

I would have probably just pissed off after venting a couple times about the ridiculousness of arguing legal semantics in a case involving one of the most prolific serial rapists of our time.

How tone-deaf it looks… but you all haven’t experienced rape firsthand. You don’t have daughters who have been raped.

Kusimulkku,

You think the difference between someone losing a case and the case against them being dismissed/dropped is legal semantics…? Not to mention, the first person was just wondering what case it was they said Trump lost…

FluorideMind,

Holy shit this doomrider guy is dumb af. Stop wasting your time with him.

Kusimulkku,

You’re right, I should’ve stopped a while ago

Kusimulkku,

Also just to absolutely clarify to everyone, when you said they are “playing devils advocate to a rapist” and called me “rape apologist” and so on, was that also sarcasm?

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

I’m pretty sure Doomsider didn’t notice two different people were talking to him either.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Justified sarcasm, but not relevant to this particular thread about technical legal language.

Doomsider,

The situation is so perverse but we are to hold a logical detached conversation about a child rapist. Excuse me while I go throw up again.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Again. Not arguing about the red team rapist.

FiniteBanjo,

No. But Trump does have like 30 other allegations, so I could see why you were confused.

Kusimulkku,

I’m not sure what case they mean but this particular Jane Doe doesn’t seem to have won against Trump on rape allegations. First case was dismissed and second was dropped after there were death threats. Seems like there’s four Jane Doe lawsuits against Trump, two about the rape, but two of them have nothing to do with that. Pretty confusing.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_v._Trump

Kusimulkku,

Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe.

I’m not sure if there’s some other Jane Doe lawsuit he lost but he didn’t lose (either time) the rape accusation talked in the article. First was dismissed and second was dropped (likely because death threats).

A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13-year-old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein’s Manhattan residence in 1994.[39] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old.[40] It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct…

YeetPics,

Oh thank God it was explained away.

Anyway, here are 13 pages of links to Biden old lame shitposts by tankies.

Don’t forget to nuke the west!

casmael,

Okay so now can we start talking about how fucking Turnip inc. needs to FUCK OFF HOLY SHIT IS ANYBODY LISTENING FUCK MY LIFE

EnderWiggin,

We all are, but the media hides it. Fake news was always just another projection. The news has always loved Trump.

AmidFuror,

Why are we posting 8 year old articles to Politics?

TachyonTele,

The man in question was elected president of the USA eight years ago.

AmidFuror,

He was? I hadn't heard that. Can someone please post an article from 2016 so I can verify Trump was indeed elected President?

EnderWiggin,

Because the actual records of this case and transcripts from the Epsteine documents were revealed, and it goes into a lot of depth on why this case should be bigger news and given a lot more attention.

Kusimulkku,

Would make more sense to post a new article with that new info imo

Syrc, (edited )

…does it? I tried googling a bit but couldn’t find anything recent.

EDIT: okay, there’s articles talking about the Epstein documents, but they don’t seem to be explicitly connected to this specific case. Would’ve been better to post that article instead of a 8-year old one.

TrickDacy,

Why are we upset about it?

nokturne213,

A better question is, why is trump raping 13 year olds?

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Because he has money and no morals.

A better question is, at what immoral act would a trump supporter draw the line?

Burn_The_Right,

Trick question! None!

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