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footoro,

Hasbara has become so lazy. They used to write shittons of stuff making everyone tired to argue with their bs but this is just a lazy way of lying I’m lacking words for it.

footoro,

I wonder how the result of an investigation of the IDF against itself will turn out. I’m sure there’s gonna be lots of „you you you“s been given out, not really for doing this in the first place but rather for the fact that they got caught on camera.

footoro,

Mentioned on page 94 (Chapter 4) of 10 Myths About Israel by Ilan Pappé. To be straight forward with you I couldn’t find the primary source of this statement in there but I think it’s in one of his previous books which are all referenced as sources for this chapter. In general, Pappé is considered credible by the academic community except by Zionists of course, though their opinion on this topic doesn’t count for much imo.

footoro,

Sorry, I have the ebook and in there it’s page 94. Here are the references, as said no primary source but he’s referring to his previous books and it may just be trivial to reference at this point. But I’m not from the field and haven’t read every book of him. In general though as I said he is considered credible by the academic community except Zionists.

The relationship of the Palestinian Mufti is also discussed in more detail in the same chapter. Highly recommend reading the whole book.

If you’re really keen on verifying this maybe just write a mail to Pappé? In my experience professors actually do answer to such questions.

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footoro,

This both sides narrative related to Palestine is not accurate because this is about a colonizer and a colonized people. I personally don’t believe that there’s any scenario where the colonizers are the good guys because colonizing relies on oppression, dispossession and dehumanization of the colonized, and consequently a feeling of superiority, otherwise the whole thing won’t work.

footoro, (edited )

I understand what you’re saying I just don’t get the point of saying it, of course Zionists think they’re the good guys because again, colonizing relies on oppression, dispossession and dehumanization of the colonized, and consequently a feeling of superiority, otherwise the whole thing won’t work.

footoro,

Sounds like I should get a job in a banana trading company

Biden, Zelenskyy sign new 10-year security agreement (abcnews.go.com)

President Joe Biden touted on Thursday several new major U.S. commitments for Ukraine that were announced this week, including a https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-zelenskyy-sign-us-ukraine-security-agreement-g7/story?id=111061390, sanctions to disrupt Russia’s war machine, and a sign-off from the G7 on a...

footoro,

I mean I get what you’re saying but the way Zelensky has been talking about Gaza he already sounds like a perfect US puppet.

footoro,

This is about the cognitive dissonance of Zelensky being invaded by an imperialist foreign power that is committing genocide against the Ukrainians while at the same time standing with Israel who is committing genocide against the Palestinians. And this person here starts talking about Iran and drones. Are you okay?

footoro,

Care to elaborate? Always thought of him as a rather sane person but would be interested to understand better if I’m just not informed enough.

footoro,

Sad noises

Tobacco, alcohol, processed foods and fossil fuels ‘kill 2.7m a year in Europe’ (www.theguardian.com)

Tobacco, alcohol, ultra-processed foods (UPFs) and fossil fuels kill 2.7 million people a year in Europe, according to the World Health Organization (WHO), which has called on governments to impose tougher regulation of health-harming products....

footoro,

Yeah I’ll go to my dealer to get my daily dose of fossil fuels and processed food.

Hamas leader said civilian death toll could benefit militant group in Gaza war (www.cnn.com)

The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen....

footoro,

Only thing I see is you insulting and belittling an oppressed people currently living through a genocide carried out by a settler colonialist entity.

footoro,

Let me quickly condemn Hamas before I step in to tell you that I’m so sick of reading „Hamas uses human shields“. The IDF is quite literally doing the same. Do you condemn the IDF?

That being said, it seems like an absolute waste of energy to use human shields against Israel, because they do not give a shit about civilians. They even shot their own hostages who were naked, unarmed, writing SOS and speaking Hebrew.

According to UN officials this could amount once again to war crimes. Do you think it’s Hamas‘ fault that Israel is committing war crimes? That Israel is committing genocide to name the crime of crimes?

footoro,

Stop right there Adolfsson. You really showed those 90 year old holocaust survivors who’s the man with your comment on a platform mainly used by mid 20 - mid 30 men working in IT.

footoro,

But OP never said Jewish? I don’t know how to interpret the comment given that this is the internet but seemed more like a never again means never again for anyone kind of thing?

footoro,

I mean this is still about the EU-elections and not Germany specific. The far right is a huge problem in all of Europe and some of the worst already dictator like fascists like Orban not only seek to actively undermine the EU wherever they can, but they’re also best buddies with Israeli politicians.

I think it’s important to remember as you said that the holocaust wasn’t only about Jews and that Zionism doesn’t equate Judaism, but to draw a connection between fascists in Europe and fascists in Israel who happen to commit genocide right now doesn’t seem so far fetched in general.

footoro,

You mean the brutal military dictatorship that has driven millions out of the country, and incarcerated, tortured and killed further hundreds of thousands?

footoro,

Is this a football game where we have to pick sides?

Since you don’t know me you obviously also don’t know who or what I care about.

All I see is you shilling for a dictator and war criminal. That others also are fascist war criminals doesn’t make him any less evil.

footoro,

By that logic, since Trump supports Israel and says that Israel should finish the job, should Israel now also be proud?

footoro,

Absolutely! Just not agreeing with the logic that there’s any meaning behind some dipshit supporting the same thing you do. Although I admit that I chose a bad example.

AfD fears losing voters over latest Russia and China spy scandals (www.euronews.com)

Recent investigations linking top AfD members to Beijing and Moscow have rattled the far-right party voting base in the run-up to the European elections in June, causing doubts about their dedication to the patriotic cause — one of their main talking points....

footoro,

I think that makes the Nazis sound like much less of a shitshow than they actually were.

footoro,

This summarizes it quite well. But please keep in mind that there are red lines that Israel shouldn’t cross. If Israel does something that crosses the red line according to other countries go back to step 2.

footoro,

Yeah no. Bigots like you got us into this mess in the first place.

footoro,

Maybe call it special military operation instead of an invasion?

footoro,

I’m just going to copy & paste my response from an earlier post:

Never thought knowing Palestinian Arabic could become so useful. Sabaya is a very normal word to use for youngish women. Maybe in high Arabic it is a more specific term but in every day language no one in their right mind would think about anything related to pregnancy, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe it’s implied, just like it’s implied in “girl” or “young woman”, but that’s just a very desperate attempt to make it sound more than it actually is.

More background:

In Fusha (high Arabic) there are allegedly like 50 different names for a camel depending on what it’s up to. E.g. it has a different name when it’s drinking, sitting, pregnant, young, old, … very similar to cattle terminology in English: en.m.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_cattle_terminology

Why I’m mentioning this isn’t because I want to equate women to cattle (please don’t read this out of my comment, that’s not at all what I’m saying just to be very clear). I’m saying it because Arabic is a very rich and complex language. I really don’t know much about Fusha but it can very well be that sabaya means something more specific there in terms of what kind of women these sabaya are exactly. Anyway, even if that were the case in every day language no one would actually try to specifically mention that some woman is capable of getting pregnant.

footoro,

It doesn’t matter what ISIS used because this isn’t ISIS. I speak Palestinian Arabic and صبايا means girls end of story. There’s nothing to argue about especially since you don’t even seem to speak Arabic.

footoro,

All of this is irrelevant because the guy did not use the word you’re talking about and that’s why it doesn’t make sense to argue with you.

You need to be able to speak the language to be able to distinguish between the letters ص and س.

Since you don’t speak the language you can’t hear the difference and I don’t know why you’re still trying to desperately cling onto this BS propaganda.

footoro,

Lmao this is just sad.

Hamas launches rocket attack towards Tel Aviv area (www.bbc.com)

Hamas says it has launched a rocket attack towards the Tel Aviv area in central Israel for the first time in nearly four months. At least eight rockets were launched from the Rafah area in southern Gaza and several were intercepted, the Israeli military says. No injuries have been reported.

footoro,

Never thought knowing Palestinian Arabic could become so useful. Sabaya is a very normal word to use for youngish women. Maybe in high Arabic it is a more specific term but in every day language no one in their right mind would think about anything related to pregnancy, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe it’s implied, just like it’s implied in “girl” or “young woman”, but that’s just a very desperate attempt to make it sound more than it actually is.

More background:

In Fusha (high Arabic) there are allegedly like 50 different names for a camel depending on what it’s up to. E.g. it has a different name when it’s drinking, sitting, pregnant, young, old, … very similar to cattle terminology in English: en.m.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_cattle_terminology

Why I’m mentioning this isn’t because I want to equate women to cattle (please don’t read this out of my comment, that’s not at all what I’m saying just to be very clear). I’m saying it because Arabic is a very rich and complex language. I really don’t know much about Fusha but it can very well be that sabaya means something more specific there in terms of what kind of women these sabaya are exactly. Anyway, even if that were the case in every day language no one would actually try to specifically mention that some woman is capable of getting pregnant.

footoro, (edited )

This is the result of paying off developing countries to keep refugees out of the EU because right wing media has successfully planted the idea into the heads of people that they come here in a conspiracy to replace us, steal our jobs, our unemployment benefits, our women, all at the same time.

God I love our western and Christian values that made all of this possible. Have never been prouder to be European, we are a beacon of humanity.

Secret Hamas Files Show How It Spied on Everyday Palestinians (www.nytimes.com)

The Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar has for years overseen a secret police force in Gaza that conducted surveillance on everyday Palestinians and built files on young people, journalists and those who questioned the government, according to intelligence officials and a trove of internal documents reviewed by The New York Times....

footoro,

Yeah no shit Hamas is an authoritarian corrupt movement. That still doesn’t justify the genocide on Palestinians and the apartheid, occupation and systematic rape, abuse, torture, and also the Israeli mass surveillance that is used to blackmail people or even track them down to murder them.

footoro,

You make it sound like only one issue will fix it. Other countries that tried to increase birth rate, needless to say mostly for nationalistic/racist reasons have so far failed. Look e.g. at Hungary. They try everything but the birth rate is still declining.

There needs to be much more affordable housing and public transportation, but immigration is also inevitable in helping mitigate the effects of the aging population. And I think migration is a good, normal thing to happen. Humans have been moving around all the time, otherwise we wouldn’t be spread all over the globe.

But there also needs to be an environment where people feel comfortable getting children when thinking about climate change and the future world that they’d bring the children into.

So there are many things that go hand in hand and what I read from your comment is more like migration problem must stop, build housing solution done.

footoro,

I guess Catalonians understand how it is to be colonized by a foreign entity. Kudos to them.

footoro,

I think everyone even Arabs agree that the majority of people is homophobic/transphobic. Fine.

But please state a source for people in Palestine being stoned, like at all, no matter the reason. What kind of place do you think Palestine is?

footoro,

Not joking at all. Don’t show me a Wikipedia article, show me a newspaper article about someone being stoned in Palestine.

footoro, (edited )

So we’re talking about stoning people that’s allegedly happening due to violations of sharia law and you bring up a story from 2001 so probably during the second intifada about an incident involving illegal Israeli settlers.

I wanted to assume that you maybe just don’t know better but this is just bad faith from your side.

footoro,

Yeah that was my point. It’s not that Arab societies are like super progressive and Palestinian people are suddenly angels just because they are victims of genocide. It’s just that doing stonings is an archaic practice that doesn’t exist in the Levant. Like people might be very conservative and live in authoritarian societies, but they still live in the 21st century and they don’t want that shit.

That being said Hamas absolutely sucks, they are violent, corrupt dictators and while they currently are the biggest armed resistance against the ongoing colonization they shouldn’t have any place in a free Palestine.

footoro,

Keep trying. This has nothing to do with stoning people as a punishment based on religious laws, for example for being trans. Which you claimed would be a common practice in Palestine. An unresolved incident involving illegal Israeli settlers during the second intifada inside the occupied West Bank has nothing to do with that. You’re the one moving goalposts, more like spreading false information and you know it.

footoro,

Add also Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq to the list before all the meddling and government overthrowing. Things were a mess, but the Middle East was developed, people were educated, and there was a lot of cultural developments that last until today e.g. in music. That was going on up until like the 60s, 70s when fundamentalism as a reaction to Western interference (Iran and to an extend even Saudi Arabia as ridiculous as it sounds in 2024), or Soviet invasion (Afghanistan).

Hamas official says group would lay down its arms if an independent Palestinian state is established (apnews.com)

A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

footoro,

Telling lies again? This sounds exactly like the Hamas beheads babies story. Israeli propaganda became so lazy.

Fuck Hamas and what they did, but compared to the genocidal Israelis they are saints and I’m tired of reading all these unproven horror stories of what Hamas allegedly did while Israel is literally using an AI to murder children.

footoro,

And surely you can post a link to it because surely it exists, like all the evidence against the UNRWA members being Hamas, and the systematic gang raping that allegedly happened on October 7, and the Palestinians bombing their own hospitals, etc. etc.

I’m so tired of this Zionist tactics of making up shit and then not being able to come up with evidence, because how can there be evidence if you made that shit up.

footoro,

Lmao this. Pretty much every Iranian you talk to in a trusted environment hates their government. And then most of them are pretty hardcore atheists either. Like nothing wrong with being atheist but to a degree that makes me personally already uncomfortable.

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