AnotherDirtyAnglo,

Restricting puberty blockers until after puberty is like taking birth control pills after the baby has been born.

I mean, do fans of the CPC have any functioning critical thinking? Or are they mostly just hateful nosey pricks who can’t mind their own business?

CanadaPlus,

Ooooh! I love this analogy! Thanks, I wasn’t sure how to make it into a one-liner.

Wanderer,

So many countries are taking this stance now with more evidence.

ramjambamalam,

What evidence?

jonsnothere,

Peer-reviewed NYT op-Eds (/s)

Wanderer,

It’s not like these experts and doctors post a list of evidence for how their decision is made. I don’t really know what you expect for me. Maybe you could send some emails to the growing number of health boards?

forbes.com/…/increasing-number-of-european-nation…

ImplyingImplications,

Where did Pierre get his medical doctorate?

HikingVet,

Who else would puberty blockers be for?

DerisionConsulting, (edited )

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  • Hootz,

    That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve read today.

    Nomecks,

    Probably people with a whole range of medical issues that get swept up in our government trying to hurt “the right people”.

    blindsight,

    My understanding is they’re also prescribed to delay very-early onset of puberty. Puberty has started, for some individuals, so young as to be . (in India, in that case.)

    They have other applications aside from transitioning.

    HikingVet,

    So, they are for minors.

    Doesn’t say who else would need puberty blockers other than a minor in those groups.

    streetfestival,
    @streetfestival@lemmy.ca avatar

    “I think we should protect the rights of parents to make their own decisions with regards to their children.” [-PP]

    Asked to state definitively if he’s opposed to puberty blockers for people under the age of 18, Poilievre said he is.

    So, in other words, he’s only for ‘parental rights’ (/s) when they’re useful for suppressing trans rights

    FunderPants,

    Journalists should be asking Pierre if he thinks minors should be able to get abortion services without parental consent. Let’s see him square that circle with his smarmy face.

    avidamoeba,
    @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

    My head just exploded visualizing this.

    maxprime,

    Wouldn’t his answer just be “no”?

    BlameThePeacock,

    “I think we should protect children and their ability to make adult decisions when they’re adults” - PP

    We have children/parents/doctors make all sorts of important adult decisions regarding children all the time, why is this any different. Everything from deciding on whether to amputate after an accident to putting them on amphetamines to treat ADHD is fine, but for some reason gender affirming medication is different?

    Put some checks in to make sure it doesn’t get misused/abused, then leave people alone with their personal choices. -Me

    FunderPants,

    Good news is we have those checks and balances already. Since 2009 Canada has recognized the right of minors to obtain or decline health care services on their own or over the objection of their parents. This is the mature minor doctrine and it was settled in the Supreme Court.

    In most jurisdictions, medical professionals and other licensed practitioners determine if the person seeking care can give informed consent or rejection of a procedure (including full understanding of the consequences, sound mind, etc) before performing it. This means doctors and patients determine the course of care and make private medical decisions.

    In Pierre’s world, and Danielle’s world, they know better than doctors and patients and would deny care, which we know for a fact leads to suicidal ideation in trans teens. Pierre doesn’t care about that, he literally doesn’t care if these kids die because they can’t get the care they need as long as he can make a wedge out of it. The fucking nerve of Pierre to call this a distraction.

    Glide,

    Pierre doesn’t care about that, he literally doesn’t care if these kids die because they can’t get the care they need as long as he can make a wedge out of it.

    I mean, they aren’t going to become CPC voters anyway. It’s to his benefit to let them die.

    FfaerieOxide,
    @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

    If they can't handle blockers they sure can't handle puberty.

    Only one is permanent.

    HenriVolney,

    Unless you live in 17th Century Italy and you want your boy to be the vest singer in the choir!

    FfaerieOxide,
    @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

    What does permanent surgical removal of testes have to do with temporary uptake inhibition of either estrogen or testosterone?

    HenriVolney,

    Nothing, I was just shitposting from the other side if the pond ;-)

    FfaerieOxide,
    @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

    That get your rocks off, does it? 🤨

    ...shit-stirring about oppressed groups?

    TotallyHuman,

    …really? The post was clearly a joke, and if it had any stance at all it was the celebration of modern medicine.

    FfaerieOxide,
    @FfaerieOxide@kbin.social avatar

    clearly a joke

    Ah yes, disingenuous statements about healthcare a marginalized group is having its access to stripped at present. Very funny.

    if it had any stance at all it was the celebration of modern medicine.

    Referencing 17th century castrati?

    HenriVolney,

    Well I guess some people are clearly on edge about some subjects… hard to crack one without scandalizing folks

    FunderPants,

    Poilievre called trans health care “a divisive wedge” that’s being used by the Liberal government to “distract…”

    Classic Poilievre, disagree with him on the state banning life saving medical care and you’re the one being divisive and causing distractions.

    I’m honestly sick of people like Pierre calling everything that isn’t about dollars a distraction, there is more to life than money, like human rights and healthcare for example, the things he wants to trample all over.

    DigitalTraveler42,

    Wait until he too starts calling everything he doesn’t like “woke”

    FunderPants,

    He is just about there now calling this Trudeau’s ‘radical ideology’

    DigitalTraveler42,

    He’ll get there soon enough i guess…

    floofloof,

    What kind of fantasy world do you have to live in to see Justin Trudeau as too radical? Either PP is knowingly making shit up for votes or he’s out of touch with reality. Neither qualifies him to lead the country.

    DigitalTraveler42,

    The answer is a.) Out of touch with reality or b.) Purposely using this type of wording because it works and furthers his, and the larger global Right wing’s agenda, or c.) Just a grifter using grifter speak because it works on pretty much any right winger.

    I’m leaning towards B or C.

    kent_eh,

    Either PP is knowingly making shit up for votes or he’s out of touch with reality.

    Both can be true at the same time.

    xmunk,

    Laughs in NDP… you think the Liberals are radical? The Liberals are milquetoast when it comes to anything important.

    kent_eh,

    It’s only divisive because conservatives have made it a big issue.

    Evkob,
    @Evkob@lemmy.ca avatar

    Fucking thank you for saying this. Trans people are out here, just trying to survive and have basic rights. Conservatives have decided to have a full-out snowflake meltdown over this.

    Any transphobes reading this: I’m sure you’re tired of hearing about trans issues in the news. But I can assure you, you’re nowhere near as tired of it as trans people are.

    Cobrachickenwing,

    It’s their test case for abortion. You know their base would do anything to get it in. With the notwithstanding clause they could get it even if the supreme court rules it unconstitutional.

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