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RampantParanoia2365, in Innovation makes useful things smaller - overconsumption makes them bigger and more meaningless

How is an SUV more meaningless than the sedan?

Grass,

I can cram into my ancient 80s civic hatch almost the same stuff my friend’s dad can put in whatever model giant suv he has. my friend has a small pickup that can carry more. The bigger vehicle is not any more comfortable, smells like plastic and fake leather, and it’s a mystery how that man makes the jump in and out of the vehicle with knees worse than mine because I have a hell of a hard time when I help them move stuff. Its also so damn high so getting heavy stuff in sucks big time. Not everyone wants a forklift to load their car.

Agora, in Innovation makes useful things smaller - overconsumption makes them bigger and more meaningless

Smartphones are also getting bigger

LNRDrone, in Innovation makes useful things smaller - overconsumption makes them bigger and more meaningless

What? Theywent from portable PC/phone to even more portable PC/phone. The same way they went from shit car for assholes to more shitty car for assholes.

Entertainmeonly,

That old e30(?) Is a badass car. Yes BMW are generally wankers, but don’t hate the Chariot.

csolisr, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’

Y'all are no longer buying new stuff to take care of the environment. I'm not buying new stuff because everything costs an arm and a leg plus taxes. We're not quite the same I guess.

moonburster, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’

Just bought a secondhand ssd for my secondhand steam deck. I am now the proud owner of a 512 gb steam deck for sub 300. I love buying the shiny things covered in dust by others

hubobes, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’

Used stuff is fine and I have a 200 bucks 3D printer for when stuff breaks.

captain_aggravated, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I build or repair for myself where I can.

beSyl, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’

Any book recommendations for Degrowth?

MrMakabar,

Less Is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World

Mycatiskai,

So you don’t have to buy a copy you can just take it out of the library here. libgen.is/search.php?req=less+is+more+how+degrowt…

KillingTimeItself,

first of all, the irony in this comment is incredible. Second of all, literally just start buying used shit first and foremost (it’s already out there, using it is better for the environment) and if you do buy something new, try and buy something that you know you can get a good lifetime out of.

have a proper sit down, and think about what you really need to keep going in life. Focus on that. I’m not saying you should drop every hobby you’ve ever had, but if you collect newly released shit, maybe pivot into finding older stuff that’s interesting to collect. If one of your hobbies has a consumable material/s maybe think about how you can better fill that gap. Perhaps try a different hobby every once in a while.

I’ve always enjoyed computer hardware, i recently got my hands on a few older thinkpad models. x20 series and an x50 series. Both used, both seen some shit in their day and age. Gave me a handful of usable laptops, most of the parts i bought for them were used. All of them are fantastic machines though.

spicystraw,

Rude. My dude was just asking for advice and wanted to learn more.

MrMakabar,

E-Books are a thing, as are libraries, which allow you to borrow a book and return it. You also have the option of buying books second hand and then sell it again or give it away. That is really one of the key parts of degrowth. As soon as you share things, you need less things as a group. Hence the impact is much lower.

Besides a paperback book has a climate impact of 1kg of CO2. The average US American emits 4.6t per year just by driving their car. The impact of reading books is a complete joke against that and again no libraries, no second hand or anything else to reduce the impact.

Also books are really incredibly usefull resources. They are much better at actually explaining more complex ideas, then shorter articles.

So please do not just presume, somebody is going out to buy something. For the most part the big choices an individual can make on personal consumption are housing, transport and diet.

PresidentCamacho,
MrMakabar,

If you tried to post a picture. You do so by putting a ! in front of the link like:

%5Bi.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/%E2%80%A6/e47.png%5D(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/330/819/e47.png)

Then you get:

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Hope that helps, if not ignore it.

PresidentCamacho,

I did mean to thanks! Couldn’t get the damn thing to work haha.

TubularTittyFrog,

No.

It’s as simple as stop buying shit you don’t need, and rather than buy new stuff, replace/fix/renew old stuff.

Like… stop buying a new car on lease every 2/3 years. buy a car and keep it for 10+ years.

Stop vacationing to foreign countries, go on a road trip. etc

umbrella, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

stop making shitty stuff that will only last a couple of years we are perfectly fucking capable of it

Zorque, in ‘I’m not buying new stuff any more’: the young people getting into ‘degrowth’

"the young people"

So they've stopped calling everyone under the age of 45 millennials?

Agrivar,

Ooof, that stings. I’ve been thrifty and anti-consumer for years, but I’m also 50. I hate admitting I’m no longer one of “the young people.”

lefaucet, in The Oil Crash Is Coming Sooner Than We Think

Not soon enough.

Omega_Haxors, in The growing popularity of degrowth

You claim to be for degrowth and yet your movement is growing. Curious. I am very intelligent.

iraq_lobster, in We Don't Need Economic Growth

prioritize better lifestyle for the masses, not record quarterly earnings. to hell with the economy.

Jordans_Vision,

I’d say we should prioritize microeconomies. Support your local farmer, and your mom and pop shops. Setup a community garden. Take part in your local governance. It’ll all starts with us. It’s easier said than done, I’m sure. I myself need to apply all of this.

iraq_lobster, in Population Decline Will Change the World for the Better

How about wealth decline for the rich and redistribution among the bottom 80% ? on an individual scale, working way less and having no offspring should be the way to go. raise pets not babies!

d00ery, in Population Decline Will Change the World for the Better

But if you listen to economists (and Elon Musk), you might believe falling birthrates mean the sky is falling…We can maintain the economic status quo and continue to pursue infinite growth on a finite planet.

If the only way capitalism works is by continued growth, then it’s a broken system, the world is limited in its resources. (Unless we go to Mars and start the cycle again, slowly trashing the galaxy)

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