Twelve people reported drowned off a Gaza beach trying to reach aid drop

Twelve people drowned trying to get to aid dropped by plane off a Gaza beach, Palestinian health authorities have said, amid growing fears of famine nearly six months into Israel’s military campaign.

Video of the airdrop on Monday showed crowds of people running towards the beach, in Beit Lahiya in north Gaza, as crates with parachutes floated down, then people standing deep in water and bodies being pulled on to the sand.

In Washington, the Pentagon said three of the 18 bundles of airdropped aid into Gaza on Monday had parachute malfunctions and fell into the water, but could not confirm if anyone was killed trying to reach the aid.

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veniasilente,

Why don’t they just land the planes on the ground and deliver the aid there, instead of just haphazardly tossing it to the air hoping it 1.- lands somewhere 2.- without killing someone via impact or 3.- landing in a completely different realm and medium?

SkyezOpen,

Are there any runways in Gaza that are 5000 feet long?

bamboo,

No, there was a functioning airport but Israel destroyed it in 2001

veniasilente,

I had to go google what a “feet” is, since IIRC it’s a body part (well, plural of) but even with that, what kind of tremendously inefficient aircraft does the mighty US have that can’t brake in 1600 m? If that’s that much of a concern , just land a helicopter, those can do VTOL.

SkyezOpen,

what kind of tremendously inefficient aircraft does the mighty US have that can’t brake in 1600 m?

The goddamn C-130 with a load capacity of 3000 stone. I assume you think pounds are currency so I saved you the confusion.

veniasilente,

Oh no I get the plane and stuff.

I just expected by this fair point in the good year of 21st century the US would have, dunno, retro rockets on their aircraft or something. Since they spend so much on military.

andrew,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

They can do JATO for both takeoff and landing but it’s tremendously risky and hard on the airfare so it’s reserved for extreme emergencies where there are no other options, IIRC.

photonic_sorcerer,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They have parachutes, so someone would have to really be trying to be crushed by one

givesomefucks,

After Biden’s actions the last 5 months, it’s hard not to think this shit is intentional.

The bullshit about “can’t stop aid” was at least plausible. But after stopping aid to the victims, it’s just cold heartedness.

This isn’t just apathy, Biden wants the genocide.

ModsSuckMyFeetAndAss,

Downvoted, Biden is our god and savoir

muntedcrocodile,

I think you will find that apathy towards gaza is a bipartisan opinion its all just the outcome lobbying and funding from special interest groups.

Politicians dont care whats actually good just what gets them elected next election.

givesomefucks,

just what gets them elected next election.

If that’s all they cared about they’d try to help people like FDR. He won so much moderates and Republicans had to unite against him and pass term limits.

They want elected, but they want the donor money more.

muntedcrocodile,

Money and power how noble of them.

bibliotectress,

You’re really busy today.

givesomefucks,

Some days I give more fucks than average.

Linkerbaan, (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

three of the 18 bundles of airdropped aid into Gaza on Monday had parachute malfunctions

A 17% failure rate on “military equipment” is absolutely disgusting. Why the hell does America keep throwing dodgy projectile bombs on Gaza? At least make sure the stupid parachutes work before throwing them into one of worlds most densely populated areas.

Or you know, force isael to let in aid trucks.

NoIWontPickAName,

It’s 1 in 6 not 1 in 3

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You’re right I’ll correct that

muntedcrocodile,

Nothing is 100% reliable thats just how engineering and manufacturing work. Reliability is an exponential so is it worth doubling the price to have it be 10% failure instead of 17% they did the math and it would seem not.

Im sure somone did a risk assesment and green stamped it.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Im sure somone did a risk assesment and green stamped it.

Yeah except this is the American military industrial complex. That 17% to 1% would have been a 2 cent increase for a parachute they’re probably charging 5k per unit.

muntedcrocodile,

Sure a better parachute might cost that but the development, testing, aquasition, supply chain bs, quality control, manufacturing proccess, etc etc keeps costing more and more while u make small improvments on reliability. Its more like a half the falure rate can easily cost double the price as i said its exponential 1% is a lot further away cost wise than u might think.

Nutteman,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

Mmm yes daddy continue to use numbers and corporate brain to justify the US military’s many failures to actually deliver aid (oh, and the people those failures killed)

SkyezOpen,

I would think you’d be more mad about the US bombs that have killed tens of thousands instead of the few squished by actual aid packages, but here we are.

muntedcrocodile,

Its called logic i aint justifying shit just explaining why it is the way it is. If ya dont like it feel free to call ir representatives anf vote as u see fit.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

If it has a 17% failure rate the certification and quality control are pretty worthless.

muntedcrocodile,

Everything has an acceptable failure rate quality control just ensures it meets those standards 17% obviously was good enough

HappycamperNZ,

You are assuming that 17% was total failure, and this equipment is one time use on equipment so not at all invested in reliability. One line snapping is technically a malfunction - compare that to the reusable parachutes that carry people and watch the reliability difference.

These are also aid packages that get ripped out of the back of a moving aircraft, fall in windy conditions and are then torn apart to be used. Would you rather this or half the number of packages that are now more reliable?

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