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Shadow, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

Ladybird is a fork of the serenity browser, no?

Does this 3 year old pr involve anyone from the ladybird project?

RobotToaster, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

Wait, so you made all these posts because the author uses generic masculine for documentation?

That’s it?

I was hoping for something more dramatic.

Kelly, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol
sub_ubi, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol

BSD license, make a fork?

GravitySpoiled, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol

That would be more apropriate in a gender forum. This is about open source. I don’t get why a browser has a gender anway. Just use it instead of he or she.

braindefragger, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol

This again?

stuckgum, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol

Can you please make a few more posts about this? I don’t think you got your point across yet.

vantablack,
@vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

good idea 😁

braindefragger,

don’t use lemmy lol

If you feel this strongly about web a browser that’s not built yet, how could you possibly be using lemmy, knowing what you do about their devs?

Where’s your line?

EasyDoesIt, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol

i think that a gender neutral language can be inclusive for some people but at the same time can be an exclusive language, because can be confusing for other people, is not obvious that it’s the right choice, that’s my opinion

Midnitte,

“How can you be so bigoted against bigots?!”

Lemongrab,

“Singular they” has been common in english since somewhere in the 1300s. Idk how it is confusing, and even if it is, do those individual’s opinion outweigh like grammar? If people are confused they can learn, lest they be confused forever. “They” in this instance would be replacing “he”, so I think the benefit is clear. Or avoid ambiguity by just saying “the developer” (cus I think it was Dev documentation iirc).

Edit:
Maybe it was referring to the browser itself? Therefore “it” would make things much less confusing.

TheAgeOfSuperboredom,

In this context the use of “they” is just proper English though. I can’t fault someone who speaks a gendered language from using gendered pronouns as is proper in that language, but the use of “they” in English is correct and hardly political or exclusive. Every language is going to have rules that may be strange to non-native speakers, but any “confusion” is easily remedied by explaining that’s just how the language works. I find that’s also part of the fun of learning another language. I especially love trying to mix the rules of one language into another to see how silly it sounds. :)

Voroxpete,

Sorry but when you said “some people”, you didn’t explicitly specify the gender of the people you were referring to, so now I am confused and terrified. In future please use “some male people” or “some female people” to avoid inflicting your gender ideology on me.

Lemongrab, (edited ) to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol

It think the discussion of this issue has been thoroughly explored in your other post on the “free and open source” community. People know about this now. Is there anything else to cover? All that will be talked about is either “wow, that was an overreaction from the Dev, they seem close-minded” or “you should separate the tech from the developer” or people (bigots) just saying they think he made the right choice.

The discussion is stale.

apfelwoiSchoppen,
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

I just found out about it from this post. If you dont want to see the post, keep scrolling.

And if my opinion matters, that dude can get bent. It is such a small request to be inclusive. Such small requests can be so much to so many.

Lemongrab,

I was only commenting that this post has been posted already twice, once in a closely related community. I have already had to argue with people supporting the Dev’s choice to be bigoted. I will just scroll past, just not excited to see more transphobes crawl out of the woodwork.

apfelwoiSchoppen,
@apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world avatar

Certainly is not exciting. Not all of us follow every community/server though. Thanks for fighting the good fight. Cheers. (BTW love your username, I can hear the screams. 😆)

HumanPenguin,
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

Agreed. Most of us really do not think about this shit as often as we should. I know I am guilty of assuming he when typing. I know because I make an effort not to be. And notice how often I need to correct text. Being older than many developers. I just grew up with the assumptions. So like many my age needed my attention drawn to the societal indoctrination.

People politely pointing it out is important. As is people volunteering to help correct older documentation.

Lemongrab,

This is true. I agree that developers should use more inclusive language in their documentation. I mostly just thought people saw the other post already.

vantablack, to opensource in don't use ladybird browser lol
@vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
Lionir, to foss in don't use ladybird browser lol

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gyrfalcon, to technology in don't use ladybird browser lol
@gyrfalcon@beehaw.org avatar

Based on the content of the linked post and the evolution of the thread here, the mod team has decided to lock this post. There is an important difference between standing up for people who are marginalized and harassment, which this thread has been more or less equating. Please deal with this topic in a more nuanced manner going forward.

kilgore_trout, to technology in don't use ladybird browser lol

Yes, sink a valuable Free software because they won’t accept something you and I believe in.

It’s incredibly selfish and stupid.

Thann, to technology in don't use ladybird browser lol
@Thann@lemmy.ml avatar

What gender is the wheel user?

Wheel never know!

vortexal, to technology in don't use ladybird browser lol
@vortexal@sopuli.xyz avatar

It seems like I can’t even use it anyways, lol. I’m using Linux Mint and the software required to build it is outdated.

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