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drailin, to gaming in Starfield Global Release Times and PC Specs Revealed - IGN
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I almost never preorder games anymore, but I make an exception for Bethesda Games. I managed to snag a Constellation Edition on Gamestop after the direct, but the order has been fucked up and I haven't been able to see the status for weeks. I had to call like 8 times to get the issue escalated so I could make sure I would get it and just got confirmation that my order was fixed today šŸ˜­

pwnstar, to gaming in Phil Spencer Insists Games Launch Across Xbox Series X and S Despite Baldur's Gate 3 No-Show - IGN

Me when it launched: this is a terrible idea and will hold Xbox back

Xbox fans: nuh uhhhh! Itā€™s brilliant!

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Thing is, it could be a good idea if they didnā€™t have such strict parity rules - play the game, but not necessity with the exact same features (ie, disabling split screen, but still allowing co-op). Heck, that could even have been a selling point to get people to ā€œupgradeā€ to an X.

pwnstar,

They pitched parity in the beginning which is what I based what I thoughts on, 100% agree with you on that. Even if the dropped the expectations on how well itā€™s supposed to runā€¦ Drop it to a 720p console

blindsight, to gaming in Phil Spencer Insists Games Launch Across Xbox Series X and S Despite Baldur's Gate 3 No-Show - IGN

Do they have any other option than to stick to their guns on this one? Thatā€™s sold the XBox Series S as having feature parity with the Series X. If they go against that now, then theyā€™ve engaged in false advertising and will immediately get slapped with a huge lawsuit and/or fine, plus all the negative PR that comes from it.

Theyā€™re stuck until the next console generation, which is a long way out. And I wonder if PS5 will continue to gain ground against XBox for the rest of the generation as a result.

It will be interesting to see if they continue with their two-model tiering next gen, but Iā€™m guessing they wonā€™t.

Omegamanthethird,

I feel like developers have completely given up on optimizing games. Any game should be able to run on the SS. Most games can run on last gen consoles

li10,

Having just looked up the equivalent PC specs, it really doesnā€™t seem like a lot of power.

I imagine the game can run ā€œfineā€, but they probably need to do a fair bit of optimisation or people will complain about the way it looks and frame rate.

One of the benefits consoles used to have was everyone running the same hardware, but theyā€™ve lost that now and I donā€™t imagine console players will be as accepting of lower quality as PC players with low end GPUs.

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

The main issue, and whatā€™s keeping Baldurā€™s Gate off it, is a RAM issue. Itā€™s got less RAM that the One, and things like dual screen need more RAM than the S has.

PenguinTD,

Most of time, itā€™s the juggle of time and resource available to you, but there is still a hard limit otherwise how about demand BG3 to also run on my antique knockoff NES? Cause they are too lazy to accommodate the hardware limitation? How about my smart watch? Or someone elseā€™s smart fridge?

Donā€™t get me wrong, what you said in some cases but most likely the devs are told to push it out instead of make the game run better(on the target platforms.) There are no secret sauce to otherwise fit a game like BG3 to previous gen consoles.

Last, if you are really good at this optimization thing the whole industry will pay good money for your skill set.

Jaccident,

How about my smart watch? Or [ā€¦] smart fridge?

Well it worked for Skyrim? They released that for my nieceā€™s speak and spell.

Velonie,

From what theyā€™ve said the game can run fine, but the issue is getting local split screen on the S working because it has such a small amount of RAM available

soulsource,
@soulsource@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Yep. The Series S gives games even less RAM than the One X did.

Knusper,

Itā€™s just a business decision. Enough players have strong enough hardware that the invest into optimizing for weaker hardware isnā€™t likely to pay off.

If there is a weaker platform with lots of players, like the Switch, that can make optimizing financially viable, but obviously, it depends on how much optimizing you would have to doā€¦

ram,
@ram@lemmy.ca avatar

If they go against that now, then theyā€™ve engaged in false advertising and will immediately get slapped with a huge lawsuit and/or fine,

No they wonā€™t. Companies arenā€™t beholden to their commitments from advertisements in perpetuity. In the first place, someone would need to sue, or begin a class action. Thatā€™d drag out for years, and almost certainly lose.

li10,

Even without a lawsuit, is it worth the hassle?

Theyā€™d lose a lot of trust in case they ever wanted to do something similar in future.

Iā€™d be furious with any company if they pulled that sort of shit with a product I owned.

VoxAdActa,

Iā€™d be furious with any company if they pulled that sort of shit with a product I owned.

On the other hand, feature parity means that the full potential of the X because everything also has to run on the S. So all the things that the X can do that the S canā€™t will, probably, not be used much, if at all, going forward, just to avoid this kind of hassle.

Great deal for people who bought the S, but sucks shit for people who paid a couple hundred bucks more for the X, for features that simply wonā€™t be utilized.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Theyā€™re stuck until the next console generation

Since these Xbox consoles came out, maybe even since Xbox One X, they've been talking about being "beyond generations". I figured that would result in more periodic updates, probably with two simultaneous lines of Xboxes, X and S, but it hasn't turned out that way. So far, it's just seemed to mean that you don't have to deal with Sony's BS around PS4 and PS5 versions of the same game.

Die4Ever,

They shouldā€™ve figured out a way to communicate that the Series S will last until next gen, but the Series X would get more cross-gen games when next gen launches

Or they shouldā€™ve known that RAM is hard to scale on and they couldā€™ve included an extra 2GB or so in the Series S lol

But Iā€™m actually a believer that BG3 could be made to run on XSS even with split screen, itā€™s just gonna take more work and reduced graphics maybe audio quality too, and smarter data streaming from the SSD

stopthatgirl7,
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Or they shouldā€™ve known that RAM is hard to scale on and they couldā€™ve included an extra 2GB or so in the Series S lol

They really should have. Itā€™s got 2Gb less than the One, which is where all these problems are coming from.

And as for getting BG3 running on the S, well, Microsoft has had to send out some of their engineers to help Larian figure out how to do it, so I doubt itā€™s going to be an easy job.

NuPNuA,

Wasnā€™t the general idea that direct storage means data moves from the SDD to the GPU skipping RAM, hence the need for less. Itā€™s possible Larian arenā€™t used to dealing with direct storage since the PC doesnā€™t have it in most systems even now and so just brute forced things the old way on PS5? Thatā€™s why MS engineers have to go and show them how to use the new architecture.

conciselyverbose,

On PC, the point is that you can skip RAM and go straight to VRAM. You still need the assets in memory while you use them. It's faster but it's not that much faster. With unified memory there isn't that distinction. That's one of the ways consoles can be better optimized than a general PC build.

Hypx,
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The Series S will become an ever bigger anchor going forward. Eventually, there will be 3rd party games that just choose not to bother with the Xbox at all because of the Series S.

stopthatgirl7,
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Weā€™re only a few years into the new console generation and problems are also starting. Itā€™s definitely going to get worse as more demanding games start coming out. Microsoft is really going to have to loosen their parity policy, or itā€™s going to hold either the entire generation back or them back.

NuPNuA,

Given that thereā€™s plenty of PCs out there with lower spec than the S they still need to scale their game for, I doubt it will be as big an issue as people make out. BG3 is an odd outlier as theyā€™ve put a splitscreenode in the console game that the PC version doesnā€™t have and thatā€™s whatā€™s holding things up.

Bewildebeest,
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Iā€™m pretty sure split screen is supported on PC?

NuPNuA,

I didnā€™t even see a local multiplayer option when I was playing on the deck?

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Itā€™s available on PC, but not on Steam Deck.

NuPNuA,

How did they manage that, the Deck doesnā€™t usually get bespoke builds.

stopthatgirl7,
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Itā€™s not a bespoke build; they just disabled the function on Steam Deck.

https://x.com/cromwelp/status/1685989272099213312?s=46&t=EUtgwMByNj4sQbVP9INV-Q

And for the record, you can run split screen on the Steam Deck; itā€™s just not supported.

conciselyverbose,

Valve lets you identify the deck. It's probably just a flag that hides the reference to it.

stopthatgirl7,
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stopthatgirl7,
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CrateDane,

Given that thereā€™s plenty of PCs out there with lower spec than the S

Not when it comes to memory. The Xbox SS only has 10GB combined system memory and VRAM. The PC version of BG3 requires 8GB system memory plus 4GB of VRAM, so the SS is a couple gigabytes short in total.

Going by the Steam hardware survey, 95% of PCs have at least 8GB of system memory, with 16GB being easily the most common amount. 80% have at least 4GB of VRAM, with 8GB being the most common amount.

Lojcs,

Apparently Microsoft wants games to run with only 6GB of shared memory in case there are too many background stuff taking up ram

soulsource,
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That number is - well, letā€™s just say, the correct value can be found in the docs here: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/ā€¦/whats-new-2206

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

ā€œAccess to this topic requires membership in an NDA developer programā€

So, uh, whatā€™s the correct value, then?

soulsource,
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For obvious reasons I canā€™t post it publicly before MS discloses it. They are currently migrating more and more GDK docs to the public site, so I wouldnā€™t be surprised if the link became publicly available soon, but currently one still needs to register a dev account to access it.

briongloid,
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They can change course on advertised usage if they can argue that they had a genuine intention for longevity and only changed course after.

wesker, to gaming in Little Nightmares III Announced
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Thereā€™s a Little Nightmares II?

giant_smeeg,

Yes, I still prefer 1 but itā€™s great. Has ray tracing too.

wesker,
@wesker@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I just watched the trailer. I was travelling a lot when it was released, so I guess it just flew under my radar. Iā€™ll have to check it out!

giant_smeeg,

I was the other way! I never heard of the first game. Then I see the trailer for number 2 and then played both.

GammaGames,

Since early 2021, looks like it has 80s on metacritic

ChronosWing,

Thereā€™s also a little nightmares mobile game which isnā€™t half bad either.

ArugulaZ, to gaming in Phil Spencer Insists Games Launch Across Xbox Series X and S Despite Baldur's Gate 3 No-Show - IGN
@ArugulaZ@kbin.social avatar

You know how the Sega Saturn had a four meg RAM cart? There's your solution! Sell a four GIG RAM cart for the Xbox Series S! Maybe it'd have a connector on the other end for storage cartridges. You know, make your own little tower of power.

(Honestly, I get the impression that after all this complaining, a Switch version of Baldur's Gate 3 will mysteriously materialize. So much for your talking point, Larian!)

eutsgueden,

I seem to recall Xbox making claims they wanted this console generation to be ā€œthe lastā€ because they wanted to make frequent iterative upgrades instead. I feel like they changed to the opposite mentality now, if the lowest common denominator canā€™t handle it, nobody gets to play.

IntiPogo, to PCGaming in How Alan Wake 2 Hopes to Solve One of the Originalā€™s Biggest Criticisms

Less combat sounds very good. Combat in the first one and the frequency of it was sucking all the fun out of the game for me.

geosoco,

Agreed.

After the very first reveal of it being an open-world game, I was hoping for a lot more exploration, world building, and other tasks. While I appreciated some of the fight mechanics, they definitely had worn thin by the end of the game.

AlternativeEmphasis,

Enemy variety was the killer imo. It's so common to fight and there's only like 5 enemy types in the game and you meet them all by the midway point. I am hoping more creatures show up in the sequel.

Mikelius, to gaming in Little Nightmares III Announced
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Man, still need to go finish the 2nd. I stopped playing after a game breaking bug was encountered that was never fixedā€¦ Didnā€™t want the start the entire chapter over and never got back into it to finish it. Once I do eventually do that, I might get the 3rd when it releases.

Smoke,

Iā€™m still playing through II. Itā€™s not as immersive as the first one, but the mannequins in Chapter 3 were able to terrify me in a way none of the monsters in the first game could.

ReverseModule, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN
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I agree 1000000000% with them. One console called PC. :)

DanNZN,

Even PC is broken down into Windows, Linux and Mac.

Borat,
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So, everyone on Linux then.

Neon,

Linux was so unable to handle my 3 Monitors (granted, all with different Resolution and refresh-rate, but still) that i had to switch back to Windows today.

gnome-shell started crashing, Firefox and Gnome-Web started crashing for whatever reason. it was a Mess.

but otherwise i still love NixOS

communist,
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This is not a normal experience. I use 3 monitors and Linux runs better than windows significantly.

sandriver,

Some of that is on GNOME. I had to swap back to KDE after a couple years on GNOME due to lack of VR compatibility. GNOME is good for newbies and productivity, but completely unusable for gaming.

flakusha,
@flakusha@beehaw.org avatar

Gnome and productivity laughs in sway

No offence, gnome is great, but there are many inconsistencies on the lover level, I wish it was figured out once and for all. It applies to big DEs like KDE and etc too.

Borat,
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Never had that issue, your experience may vary based on your hardware and software. I use Arch, sway (wayland), AMDGPU, multiple monitors with mixed refresh rates, everything works great.

Neon,

NixOS with Gnome Wayland, a 4K 60hz TV, a 144hz WQHD and a 60Hz 1080p Monitor
it would often happen that one Screen would just freeze. my Web Browsers would just crash, especially if i was opening a Video.
and the Gnome-Shell itself would crash and put me into the Login Screen.
sometimes the whole Computer would crash and become unresponsive and not even alt+ctrl+n would help anymore

Borat,
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Do you by any chance have an Nvidia GPU? I hear Wayland is still very buggy on Nvidia, Iā€™d only recommend it on AMDGPU, otherwise use Xorg for now.

Neon,

yes, Nvidia.

i don't really like XOrg, it just always feels inferior to Wayland or even Windows.
which is why i am currently using windows until [the Problems get fixed | i upgrade my PC (to an AMD GPU)]

angstylittlecatboy, to gaming in Final Fantasy 16 Producer Naoki Yoshida Wishes There Was Only One Console - IGN

Iā€™m okay with this on the condition that that platform is PC.

Even that might become an x86-64 vs ARM divide.

phi1997,

Especially if resellable physical games became widely available on PC again. In my eyes, that's the biggest advantage consoles still have.

masterspace,

The biggest advantage that consoles have is that you turn them on and start playing games.

No research process, no assembling components, no installing drivers, just actual gaming.

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

It's been a long time since that was the case though. Now you have to update the console, update the controller firmware, install the game, and update the game.

masterspace,

True though you have to do all those with PC as well, consoles are still a streamlined experience in comparison

ampersandrew,
@ampersandrew@kbin.social avatar

Sure, but they're approaching a convergence. PCs have gotten easier and consoles have become less streamlined. With something like the Steam Deck, it's even more blurred.

Squid777,
@Squid777@kbin.social avatar

Steam is legitimately easier and faster to get games going on than my PS4 these days IMO. Library is laid out alot better and there's no signing in whenever I turn on a controller. Its still easier to do local multiplayer on PS4, but not by much.

masterspace,

and thereā€™s no signing in whenever I turn on a controller

Can you not sync your account to a specific controller on Playstation? Xbox has that for a while, though the whole software experience has generally been Xboxā€™s strong suit imho

Squid777,
@Squid777@kbin.social avatar

Don't know on PS5, but definitely not on PS4

angstylittlecatboy,

While only the Steam Deck has achieved massive success, it shows there are ways to reduce the prep time for PC gaming, to almost as little as modern consoles (since you do, ultimately, have to install drivers on console.)

WagesOf,

Well, three of the top four are PC. Two of those just have locked down drm ridden crapware operating systems.

angstylittlecatboy,

By that logic the remaining one is also PC with a locked down crapware system (Switch is ARM, people have gotten Android running)

FreeBooteR69,
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Don't forget RISC-V, it's really the future i think. Anyone who doesn't want to live under the yoke of proprietary architectures, this looks to be the only alternative to the status quo.

angstylittlecatboy,

If I was seeing RISC-V get widespread adoption in consumer-grade hardware, Iā€™d be thinking about it (granted, having X86-64 and ARM on the market could make room for a third competitor compared to the 15-year x86 hegemony.) But I donā€™t see a push for that, and there probably wonā€™t be unless RISC-V delivers better results than ARM. Keep in mind that you and I probably care more about CPU architecture than the average gamer.

Goronmon,

Iā€™m okay with this on the condition that that platform is PC.

You want developers to choose a specific set of hardware requirements and only develop games to target and work on that specific set of hardware specifications?

That sounds like a bad idea all around.

angstylittlecatboy,

PC is an open platform and not a ā€œspecific setā€ of hardware requirements.

Do you even know what a personal computer is?

Goronmon,

The context appears to be mainly about how having to develop for different consoles/hardware configurations/etc makes development harder. So, choosing PC as the "platform" in this context would be the worst possible option to choose.

Suck_on_my_Presence, to gaming in Little Nightmares III Announced

I was over the moon for a second because of the studio switch. But I goofed and was thinking Supergiant Studios, not Supermassive. Still, Supermassive has some decent hitters under the belt. Hopefully everything goes well.

NightOwl, to gaming in Little Nightmares III Announced

I need to play little nightmare 1. I got it in my Steam library.

giant_smeeg, to gaming in Little Nightmares III Announced

Fuck yeah! Iā€™m still waiting for Broken Veil (The original devs)

geosoco, (edited ) to PCGaming in gamescom 2023: How to Watch and Schedule (Today - 1030AM PDT, 130PM EDT, 730 CEST)

Gamescon (Pre-show) is kicking off at 19:30 CEST, 1:30PM EDT, and 10:30AM PDT. Full night kicks off 30 minutes after.

Here's a few more links to stream:

thegameawards youtube stream - Link
RockPaperShotgun Liveblog - Link

jjjalljs, to baldurs_gate_3 in If Baldurā€™s Gate 3ā€™s Lae'zel Were Male Fans ā€˜Would Be More Forgivingā€™, Dragon Age Co-Creator Says

People donā€™t like laeā€™zel?? Sheā€™s by far my favorite. Please more strong women who want to fuck me.

My woman friend who I got to play a little co-op was also immediately like ā€œsheā€™s hot. I like herā€, and found shadow heart to be a little whiney.

Morgikan, to baldurs_gate_3 in If Baldurā€™s Gate 3ā€™s Lae'zel Were Male Fans ā€˜Would Be More Forgivingā€™, Dragon Age Co-Creator Says
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This encounter was contrasted with the playerā€™s first encounter with Morrigan, the much-loved Dragon Age character. ā€œIt does everything right to make you like the character, before showing you her darker side,ā€ Clark said of Morriganā€™s introduction in Dragon Age: Origins. ā€œI donā€™t think they did this with Laeā€™zel.ā€ Gaider dismissed this suggestion, saying ā€œit truly does not matterā€.

Thatā€™s the best part. Why would you like a character male or female that is openly hostile to you? You wouldnā€™t. Thatā€™s the point. She isnā€™t your friend (at least towards the beginning), you simply share a common goal with this githyanki. I wouldnā€™t be more forgiving if she was a guy. Sheā€™s still being an asshole to me. But it works especially for evil playthroughs as the relationship works totally fine as something thatā€™s just transactional in nature.

You know who I couldnā€™t forgive? Alistair. All he needed to do was shut his damn jackass mouth for 10min. Really hard for me not to see him in Gale everytime I talk to him.

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