The fight to fund Gavi, the international vaccine fund, explained.
Sounds like Big Pharma got top fat off those limitless COVID payouts and is wanting more. Don’t know about anyone else, but taxpayer-funded bonuses for multibillionaires isn’t a “crucial” concern for me next year.
Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.
Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.
For real, it gets old giving an admitted and adjudicated rapist the benefit of the doubt. Here you are though exacerbated by the cruelty of calling a spade a spade.
Apparently we can’t talk shit about a piece of shit because we may hurt your sensibility.
It is amazing how butthurt someone can get when they perceive their message was misunderstood. Herein lies the problem, I did not misunderstand rather just introduced sarcasm and ridicule to cope with how fucked the situation is.
Ridiculous situations are deserving of ridicule. When someone takes it personally it shows they have an invested interest. I am to believe they are on my side and just clarifying a technicality.
This guy has survived his entire life on legal technicalities using this as a tool to continue raping and looting all that is around him. We are to have a civil conversation about something that is so uncivil it literally breaks the normal social contracts that exist. Instead of focusing on this we are worried about feelings being hurt.
The circle jerk you guys are building up to is rather momentous.
Truly a baffling comment. The other person was just saying that since it wasn’t proven it technically was just an accusation and you threw a shitfit about that.
I suppose the irony of using the same tactics the Rapist in Chief uses is lost on you. Please keep up the circle jerk, it is pretty amusing watching you at this point.
The former POTUS has been in thousands of court cases. He is one of the most litigious individuals of all time. His entire adult life has been in the courtroom using technicalities to avoid responsibility.
When someone defends him on a technicality that is the very definition of irony. OP was wrong to do this so they got some ridicule. Rightfully so.
The situation itself is so absurd it is at times hard to comprehend. For instance, just because it has not or cannot be proven in courtroom beyond a shadow of a doubt does not mean it didn’t happen.
So OP can take their smugness about being technically correct and stick it.
Right. But the person said it wasn’t an accusation because Trump lost the lawsuit. And that’s something that’s just wrong. It’s not a technicality or even a defence to point out such an error, they were just wrong about him losing the case. Someone pointing out a big factual error shouldn’t be cause for this sort of shitfit, if you ask me.
No one did and your faux outrage is just as bullshit as you are. You don’t know the difference between a shitfit and sarcasm so pardon me if I don’t trust your reading comprehension.
You don’t have any skin in this game, you have never been raped nor do you have daughters. Just another rape apologist pretending to be a bro.
A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13-year-old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein’s Manhattan residence in 1994. The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old. It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats. (en.wikipedia.org/…/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct…)
You don’t have to trust my reading comprehension since the comment and the links are right there. Surely you trust your own comprehension.
You don’t have any skin in this game, you have never been raped nor do you have daughters. Just another rape apologist pretending to be a bro.
It’s not rape apologia to say that Trump didn’t lose the case. Unless you are accusing Vox (and Wikipedia) of rape apologia.
I never even disputed that. Yes, you are incapable of reading comprehension. You can’t read the room and often miss the point. It is painfully obvious.
Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.
Trump raped a 13 year old girl.
Person 2:
Aren’t those different cases?
You:
Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.
The person 2 wasn’t even giving the benefit of the doubt, they were just confused about what case the earlier person was talking about (likely because Trump didn’t lose the mentioned Jane Doe case)
Person 3:
This particular case is, technically, an accusation, though. Even if we’re all just about certain that it’s true.
You:
Sure, I heard he totally respects women’s rights. He would be never think of purposely walking in on a young girl changing… Ohh wait
Person 3:
Did you even read what I said? I agree with you there. But technically, and I’m only bringing this up because you originally did, it is an accusation.
I think here Person 3 thought you were Person 1 who originally said the “technically not an accusation” thing.
You:
Suuuure, I am just calling bullshit on it. You are okay, even if your playing devils advocate to a rapist.
That’s when I commented. I really don’t know how this looks to you (and it gets worse from there) but nobody was playing devil’s advocate, nobody was giving benefit of the doubt even, there was no rape apologia. I’m not sure if it was meant to be a joke on your part but it just seems like you misinterpreted what was being said and flew off the handle.
I would have probably just pissed off after venting a couple times about the ridiculousness of arguing legal semantics in a case involving one of the most prolific serial rapists of our time.
How tone-deaf it looks… but you all haven’t experienced rape firsthand. You don’t have daughters who have been raped.
You think the difference between someone losing a case and the case against them being dismissed/dropped is legal semantics…? Not to mention, the first person was just wondering what case it was they said Trump lost…
Also just to absolutely clarify to everyone, when you said they are “playing devils advocate to a rapist” and called me “rape apologist” and so on, was that also sarcasm?
I’m not sure what case they mean but this particular Jane Doe doesn’t seem to have won against Trump on rape allegations. First case was dismissed and second was dropped after there were death threats. Seems like there’s four Jane Doe lawsuits against Trump, two about the rape, but two of them have nothing to do with that. Pretty confusing.
Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe.
I’m not sure if there’s some other Jane Doe lawsuit he lost but he didn’t lose (either time) the rape accusation talked in the article. First was dismissed and second was dropped (likely because death threats).
A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13-year-old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein’s Manhattan residence in 1994.[39] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old.[40] It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats.
It is amazing how there is no line that Trump/GOP are willing to cross for this man. I’ve never seen a guy make so many people admit they have no moral backbone at all. Everything they hate and say other groups are he is.
Most Trumpists have been duped by propagandists. It’s more comforting to them to believe the fake news talking points than to admit “their guy” is actually a vile waste of skin.
I think its also that “free speech” has become “you can lie to anyone for any reason and recieve almost no consequences” and in the age where media can be pushed and spun faster than it can be read there’s just no way our existing system can handle it.
This is why there’s a clear parallel to the 1940s where broadcast mediums pretty much did the same thing.
Now everyone has a megaphone and you get extra money if it snags eyeballs.
Why isn’t this all over prime time news, including fox, so the christian voters can see it.
More importantly why aren’t the democrats and liberal establishment forcing this into the public eye. They could be using this to their advantage. Why aren’t we hearing about it as loudly as we should be. I’m not seeing it any where mainstream.
Fuck, biden should give a press announcement only for this.
There is a whole group of religious folks that are certain he is the antichrist and want to bring him to power so he can bring about the end of days, revelations, the rapture (where they will be saved), then after hell on earth, the 1000 years of peace…so…they are totally cool with his evil. It’s insane when you think about it from the position of nothing in religion being real.
I dont doubt it one bit. These people belong in mental institutions. Yet they’re allowed (encouraged?) to vote, as well as raise (indoctrinate) children into their ridiculous way of thinking.
(1) trillionaires (such as Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk) bought out the media - “prime time news” no longer exists, as it used to, now instead we have advertising segments meant to increase profitz
(2) the christians do not care - as evidenced by the fact that they already know. They just used him to accomplish their ends, of restricting abortion and whatever. Authoritarians just don’t think in terms like right or wrong, and rather what am I told to feel about this or that?
(3) also, yes they are THAT MUCH against the LGBTQIA+ “agenda” (of living life free from outside interference) that they could have watched the event happen live, heard her screams, and still vote for Trump. Some would still vote that way even if he had done it personally to them. It is an entirely different mindset, and we would do well to listen to it, rather than be surprised a few months from now (as we were before in 2016).
(4) if you want to understand it moar better-er, the best teacher I’ve seen is The Alt Right Playbook, by Innuendo Studios - I recommend starting at the beginning and going all the way through it, but the most relevant one to this discussion I think is this one.
TLDR: they know, they don’t care in the slightest - truly.
Thank you for the correction - it is Amazon that has 2 trillion and Tesla 1 trillion, but Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk themselves each have only ~0.2 trillion, so billionaires not trillionaires indeed. My words would carry more weight if I were more careful slinging them around:-).
It is not meant for, nor aimed at, them. Rather it is to help liberals become woken up to the fact that conservatives aren’t merely temporarily displaced liberals themselves, who simply need a slight course correction and then they’ll be eternally grateful for being shown to be wrong (as we would in reverse), but rather how they think fundamentally, foundationally, in an entirely different manner.
And everything gets filtered by that worldview. Hence, even someone who was personally raped by Trump himself may still vote for him, believing not in “him” but in how he can be strategically useful to their cause of returning America to a state that never existed for us where an emperor can do whatever he wants, and somehow that’s what will make us great (again?). Just like how Russia is “great” and “strong” now - you know, in spite of literally all of the evidence to the contrary.
But lest my message get lost here: Innuendo Studios isn’t poking fun of conservatives for ignoring literally all of the facts that contradict their worldview and instead believing in their fantasical magical wonderland - rather, it helps liberals realize that we are the ones who are ignoring literally all of the facts that contradict our worldview and instead believing in our fantasical magical wonderland, e.g. where Bernie Sanders had some kind of a ghost of a chance at winning despite bucking the system of powerful elites, or that Hillary would win so easily that she didn’t even need to bother campaigning in the Midwestern states (beyond bringing hot sauce in her purse), or that people are so scared of Trump that Biden is a shoe-in despite not having earned people’s votes or being able to finish a sentence. We will receive our rude awakening, once again, and as always we will blame not enough people for voting or whatever tidbit lies easily within reach - anything rather than own up to the fact that irl reality is hard, and might involve some actual effort to understand, both others, and most especially ourselves.
You know that little boy near the end of Sixth Sense whispering “I see dead people, walking around like regular people - they don’t know they’re dead!”? Imagine instead that he said “we are the same, conservatives and liberals - other-group-person=bad but same-group-person=good, ignoring any inconvenient facts to the contrary”. This is why we’re fucked up the ass, and so easily led like sheep by the billionaires - bc we refuse to learn, from either failures or success, and instead merely tell stories to convince ourselves of the rightness of our respective causes, since we enjoy those calm stories more than the harshness and complexity of reality.
It doesn’t help that the same billionaires have spent decades dumbing down education and making higher education prohibitively expensive. All while cramming every single wedge issues under the sun into the national narrative to further entrench this tribal mentality. I know all of what you say is true, but it seems all but impossible to combat at this point.
It’s so hard to have any motivation to carry on in this world given a portion of it is fine with all manner of atrocities so long as “their guy” is “winning.” Why try to make anything better – be it more just, equal, enjoyable for all – when a good portion of the country (possibly the world) is so hell-bent on making it worse because they dislike a small subset of some insignificant problem?
Yesterday was the 4th. I just don’t know why anyone celebrated at all. What’s there to celebrate at this point when some will sell out their future, and the future of their own, for a “red hat?”
It does help though… it helps them. And that’s an important distinction that we would do well to recognize.
When a lion wants to eat you, b/c it is hungry or maybe it just wants to fatally bat you around for fun, it is not the lion’s job to not eat you - it is our job to not allow it to do so, or at least make our best attempt.
I am also not certain that this fight can be “won”. It most certainly can/will not if we do not even try.
Even so, there is value in learning things. Whatever comes after America will be rough, and it behooves us to wake the fuck up and face that rather than go back to sleep.
More to the point, it is more fun to live life awake and facing forward, than to have to constantly anticipate bad things that are inevitably coming but we have no idea when or how or what precisely it will look like. Maybe it won’t even be all that bad? But we’ll only know that if we look at it with our eyes.
But back to the fun aspect: why be Sisyphus, constantly struggling against things that we have no control over, when we can focus our attention on the things we can control? We cannot control “them” - we never will be able to control “them” - so why worry about it? That seems counterproductive. Instead, focus on what we can control, and the motivation returns. There is no spoon. No, seriously, there isn’t: we could only ever control ourselves, that’s it and that’s all that was ever possible, anywhere, at any time.
Another neat thing: when the USA broke away from England, it spawned an entire rash of similar actions in other colonies that gave the middle finger to the English kings, and other nations likewise ditched their own kings of their respective colonial empires as well (e.g. France). We inspired the entire fucking world. As Rome did before us. Even after we fall, nobody is taking that legacy away - it will live on for thousands of years when all of us have long since died, of causes natural and/or otherwise.
Moreover, they have updated to Democracy 2.0, while we remained mired in our 1.0 version, and really having downgraded even from that by allowing devolution into a 2-party system that brought us to this point. Maybe after a time we can import some of those newer democratic systems back in, if fascism replaces democracy and then democracy replaces that fascism, and we can have a bright shiny Democracy 3.0 then. Though one thing is for certain: Democracy 1.0 has already failed - not will fail in some future sense, but already. Either that or we can at least not be blamed overmuch for thinking thus, given how fatally we seem to be wounded lately.
Focus on what you can control. There is no spoon - only ourselves.
It should be revealing with a story like this just how controlled the media has actually become. The vast majority of major media outlets have been slowly bought out and/or heavily funded by right-wing groups. The story should be everywhere, but you’ll probably only see it in niche news sites and maybe MSNBC. This is also why all we really see are negative stories about Biden regardless of what Trump does or says.
The article describes why the story feels to them so strange and suspicious. For example
It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.
Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.
Since a tape of Trump bragging about sexual assault came out in early October, a dozen named women have come forward with credible, similar-sounding allegations of Trump forcibly kissing or groping them in exactly the way he described on that tape. Johnson’s case was an outlier, with far more salacious allegations from a source that seems far less credible.
And it goes much further. I guess not many wanted to go hard on this story with it seeming a bit sketchy. Like they said in the end
It’s true that the allegation is explosive, andcould make voters see Trump’s many disturbing comments about young girls over the years in a new light. But it’s also very dubious and uncertain, and there’s no real need to promote a case like that when a dozen women have come forward with much more credible stories, using their own names and making themselves available to reporters for scrutiny.
Well, as others said, it’s probably because it’s a 2016 article about a story that never got anywhere.
Maybe it was true, maybe it wasn’t, who knows. But it’s definitely not the best thing to give press announcements about, especially considering all the horrible stuff Trump has verifiably done.
I don’t think they’ve read the article, which is a shame because it’s an interesting one. But it does make that point and comments about Clinto campaign
But the Clinton campaign hasn’t touched Johnson’s allegation, and with good reason. It’s true that the allegation is explosive, andcould make voters see Trump’s many disturbing comments about young girls over the years in a new light. But it’s also very dubious and uncertain, and there’s no real need to promote a case like that when a dozen women have come forward with much more credible stories, using their own names and making themselves available to reporters for scrutiny.
That’s not the point I’m making. I’m saying between inciting an insurrection, spending campaign funds for silencing pornstars, telling people to inject disinfectant in their veins, and sexual assault sentences… I’d say one shady rape allegation that never went anywhere is definitely not the main reason why he shouldn’t be president.
So a self-affirmed victim sends an email to a magazine. That email becomes a point of fact even though people involved either never confirmed it or straight up said it never happened.
This happens constantly. “News” is getting reported before or without confirmation. Shoot first, ask questions later, maybe put a blurb at the bottom a couple weeks later when nobody will read it correcting everything that was wrong.
Obviously the Clinton’s wouldn’t confirm it, but they’ve long since learned not to deny it either. Denying is nearly as bad as confirming, since it gives even a little more credibility to the claims, just by acknowledging its existence. Especially in this current political climate, commenting at all has nothing to gain and everything to lose.
Highly recommend the book “Trust me, I’m Lying”. News consumers have to do their due diligence now and actually judge the sources of the news itself, even for sources previously thought to be reputable. The court of public opinion is all that matters, and it’s judged by old and new media alike. Spez and Musk and Zuck are all as powerful as Murdoch, and they’re the Supreme Court of Public Opinion.
I’ve been saying the barriers to get into politics are too fucken high for a decade. And just about everything that has happened in that time has made it worse.
Doesn’t she also claim to be a millionaire? Education isn’t the only barrier to entry. Financials and family connections likely play a bigger role. If I’m living paycheck to paycheck I can’t stop working to go campaign. I also just can’t walk into my local political party office and demand to be put on a ballot for something out of the blue.
Her most recent disclosure, filed on Aug. 13, 2022, lists seven assets worth $1,001 to $15,000 and five worth $1,000 or less. Even if each asset was at the high end of that range, that totals just over $100,000.
Her previous work experience was as an Assistant Manager at a McDonald’s.
Because she was a useful idiot for moneyed interests with nothing better to do than hit fundraiser meetings, so the PhD educated social worker with fifty clients never had a chance. Like, what you’re saying is true, but what they’re saying about barriers being too high is also very much true.
But she would never win a Democrat ticket. Democrats only elect perfect people. Perfect people don’t exist. So democrats only elect people who pretend they’re perfect.
The whole case was also really suspicious, like the article said. People, including the only reporter who got to interview the woman (over a phone call) wasn’t even sure if the person actually ever existed. Seeing that this is a fairly old article, I wonder if we got any new info on this.
It’s true that scientists were expecting that tropical cyclones would evolve like this with climate change, and I’m hoping we can expand on building those mutual aid networks needed post-storm in the most vulnerable communities. Between the threat of storm surge and the flooding due to torrential rains and monsoons, it’s gonna be a doozy of a task to deal with all this moisture. If we can’t manage storm water and waste water systems, or keep installing permeable surfaces, planting mangrove forests, and other mitigation/adaptation measures, we’re going to see a major public health crisis erupt from lack of access to resources, mold that causes airborne illness, wastewater exposure, and more. Not to be negative, but I just don’t see much support for addressing this because there’s so much political theater that jams airways. Anyone that could help from a governmental standpoint with grants and incentives to mitigate are too busy with bickering and personal gain.
It’s time we take matters into our own hands and establish mutual aid networks ourselves. This means getting to know your neighbors, where to share resources, how to gain access to water filtration and rain water collection, establishing community gardens, clean/renewable energy generation, transportation, communication, and ensuring elderly and differently-abled persons have an action plan when these events happen… and they will more often.
I hope to use this platform and social media in this way. We must start planning to take care of ourselves and our communities, and do away with “every person for themselves” because that just doesn’t work anymore.
I share your frustration as I’m from a red state. Say you didn’t have such selfish and unfortunately ignorant neighbors - would you feel differently about engaging them?
I’m sorry to hear that. It sucks to be burned by people when you’re just trying to do the right thing. I keep wanting to hold out hope that we can, against all odds, find ways to build bridges where it seems impossible. Maybe it’s not quite there yet, but I’m hoping they can see the writing on the wall sooner or later. Say if they experience one bad weather event, maybe they put hate aside and really start acting on addressing climate change. Not all of them will be convinced, but I’m seeing the tide change for the better and that’s reason enough for hope to remain alive for me. My wishes for you too to stay hopeful, friend.
I agree with everything you’ve said, just one tip: please don’t call us “differently abled”, we’re disabled, and there is nothing wrong with calling us that.
Otherwise, thank you for actually including us in the first place, not many people do.
Thank you for this education. My goal is always centered in respect for all and I appreciate you. In the spirit of the point of mutual aid networks, what do disabled folks need in times of crisis or extreme weather, in your opinion? I know the spectrum of needs is vast and varied, but I’m always seeking to learn more, should you or others wish to share!
So clearly I don’t speak for all disabled people, and as you say, and as is with any group, the needs of disabled people are individual and can change depending on many factors, so I don’t know if I can really give a conclusive answer to that.
You do touch on respect, and that’d probably be the top priority (and again, probably applies to interacting with all people) - we don’t need saviours, we need comrades. Respect the individual and their boundaries, they know themselves better than you do, and if they say no to something, trust that they know what’s best and back off without taking personal offence (and if helping is contingent on someone being nice and eternally grateful - don’t do it. Only help another person because you want to help them, not because you’re looking for praise and adoration. Not saying you’d do this op, but far too many do - like people who grab your wheelchair and push without asking or being asked and then get angry when you ask them to stop).
I think other than that, the main almost universal one would be electricity. Even if someone doesn’t depend on it to power life sustaining machinery and/or aids (and many do), or seems like they immediately need electricity to survive, things like maintaining and controlling bodily temperature can be difficult or even impossible for some, so things like air conditioning, or heating pads (which are also vital for many for pain management), are essential (E: also, communication devices!). So having portable generators or other alternative sources of backup power in case of emergency can be a huge help.
Beyond that, the only way you can know is to get to know the disabled people in you community, build relationships friendships and trust, listen to them and let them know you’re there to offer help and support if they need it. If they feel safe and comfortable, they will come to you when and if they need it.
Dang, this reply is chock full of truth and good reminders. I fully agree with the need for helping with no strings attached, and it harms others when the help comes with stipulations. You also reminded me that it’s important to outwardly recognize that everyone has a strength, so ensuring people can exercise that talent in a safe space is what enriches and sustains a community. Also most importantly, you mention a reliable communication device, plus electricity access – such good points to keep in mind as we find ways to connect folks that are overburdened from climate change and other systemic pressure with these resources. Amazing, thank you for this!
I’m really glad you’ve found the information helpful, this kind of consideration and inclusion can only make a community stronger.
Just one more point I think I should have included: not all disabilities are visible - from autism to PoTS to chronic pain to mental illness, some people might look perfectly abled but actually face many barriers and challenges, so remember to include them too (and again, not that you would, but in general - don’t doubt or question someone’s disability, like questioning why someone who doesn’t “look disabled” parks in a disabled bay or uses the disabled toilets or can’t stand in a queue but needs to sit even if they look young and fit. Not being visible doesn’t mean whatever it is isn’t having a massive impact).
Anyway, I’ve rambled on enough, and you clearly get it, so I’ll end on a - solidarity, comrade!
It might also be the allegations are 100% true, but the death threats and people trying to destroy your life and those around you might not be worth it. Look how Stormy has been treated when the Cult is out to get you.
I fear that my original comment might be misconstrued so I just want to make it (probably annoyingly) explicit:
original comment: lawsuit is fake
reply1: no it’s real there’s a case number
reply2: oh well then it must be true
my reply: well akshually the existence of the lawsuit is pretty clearly not fake (response to original and reply1) but yeah you’re right it hasn’t been tried and we don’t have all the evidence to show that its contents were true or not
FWIW I fully believe Trump did this and worse, but that’s just me
Poor wording on my part. The lawsuit was not fake, the allegations were. None of the other Epstein victims corroborate that Katie Johnson was even on Epstein’s island.
I do think Trump has done similar/worse though, but there’s yet to be any real evidence surfaced.
Case was real, one was dismissed and another dropped though. I think they’re saying that the accusation was fake. The article does make it sound really suspicious, but also it mentions that it could be real but just handled bizarrely.
None of the other victims corroborate that Katie Johnson was even on the island. They made a real filing of fake claims.
I’m all for sticking it to Trump and punishing him for his crimes, many of which were sexual and some may have been with underage girls. However we have to be careful to focus on the things he is actually guilty of, else he will just be exonerated and get another layer of orange Teflon added to his skin.
Some X users appeared to believe that the document is a recent filing. The post was shared after about 150 pages of transcripts related to a 2006 grand jury investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s rape and sex trafficking of teenagers was released to the public on Monday.
However, the document included in the X post isn’t connected to those papers, but actually comes from a lawsuit filed in the months leading up to the 2016 election by an anonymous plaintiff using the name “Katie Johnson.”
Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if he actually did it, wouldn’t even be the worst thing he did. But that is indeed the general consensus, afaik.
EDIT: the article posted by Flying Squid would be more relevant to current events.
Because racism against white folks is real, despite how much everyone chants reverse racism isn’t a thing.
I just went through company bias training where it was explicitly stated a white CEO should exclude mentorship to white people because of bias, and a LGBTQ leader should embrace that bias because it supports diversity.
No nuance, no conversations about how to mitigate and identify subtle bias. It’s just don’t mentor white people.
Nope, you can find examples of this shit all over the place This material is sold to businesses across the country.
A significant portion of progressives are absolutely, intentionally or not, are incredibly racist. The fact that “reverse racism isn’t real” is a thing should be a strong indicator imo.
I assumed I’d get a response along the lines of “do your own research” this might have been even better. Don’t bother defending your take, just lash out bc nobody has to actually make sense nowadays–just be loud and obnoxious like the bad orange man
You are getting downvoted, but I have seen a bit of this myself and I understand why people would really start to resent this kind of thing. I grew up dirt poor, but I get a lot of messaging about how I should “check my privilege” from people much further up the economic ladder than I am now and certainly where I came from. I used to shrug off this ignorance based on racism, but it’s become more prevalent and definitely more strident. I’m to shut up entirely and listen to others merely and only because of demographics? No, I’m not having it. That’s about as bigoted as it gets.
I don’t think the answer is to vote for a terrorist like donnie or demons like any Republican politician. I really don’t know what the answer is. I just don’t think that some of the people pushing extremely racist things while supposedly under the banner of equity even have any clue just how many Republicans they are probably creating. When you go around preaching at people, and telling them they are the source of so many problems and they need to just listen at all times to a certain set of self-selected demographics, or else be accused of all kinds of things, people really don’t take it all that well.
I’m not sure there is systemic racism against whites (as of yet). Or at least I’ve not seen any evidence for this. I do think there are certain activists that actually would be just fine if there were, though. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
What everyone should be talking about is equal opportunities. Try to see things through another’s eyes. Understand the human experience has much more in common than we are different, etc…but instead, the new mantra from extremists seems to be that a certain set of demographics is elevated and another set needs to only listen because they could not possibly understand or empathize, so they should just sit down and shut up because humans are just sooo different from one another.
Often subtracting any aspect of class in this conversation - so we have absolutely absurdist outcomes like: Will Smith, who has an amount of privilege that few in this country could possibly match, walks up and slaps Chris Rock (who is probably close to Will Smith in privilege level), out in public. And we had some of this fringe claiming that white people could not discuss this event, and really should not offer our opinion; it was a Black thing. WTAF?
Shocking the same policies fucking over various minorities also make life shitty for poor white people. The republicans being created are the ones that bought into the whole as long as we have an underclass for the poor whites to look down on they’ll never look up at who is actually fucking them over because they’ll at least be better off than those other ultra poors.
Yes, like I said, a lot of it almost seems to be crafted to generate lots of resentment and division vs. pointing out the progress that has been made and working toward making things better. I mean, anyone that points out how far things have come is made out to be some kind of reactionary by some of this group.
I’m all for people learning real history, and learning to get along in this melting pot, and for everyone to have a seat at the table. But some extremist members seem to want to have a platform to lecture a certain other set of people, telling them how they should do this, and feel that (mostly feel bad for being who they were born as). Well, I’m not sure how that’s ever worked to win people over. I think this extremist fringe is definitely not helping the progressive cause. Some of them may be deluded to think that they can make everyone come over or be made to kowtow to their view. I don’t believe this to be the case, and I think more than a few of them are not even actually on the progressive side at all, but just merely troublemakers with a vendetta and a chip on their shoulder, or worse, con plants put there to make the entire left look ridiculous and hateful.
The reality is the civil rights movement is both about increasing the social power of non-white citizens AND decreasing the social power of white citizens.
The former is what usually feels okay for white citizens, but the latter tends to be what white folks call “reverse racism”. It doesn’t feel great losing the social power tied to your caste, but it’s necessary to create an equal opportunity society.
The hoops many progressives jump through to justify them institutionalizing racism is appalling.
Instead of housing, educating, and providing daycare and after school programs historically discriminated and low income populations we’re just going to discriminate against white people and call them racist or snowflakes if they speak up.
I believe this kind of behavior is just one of many that is helping feed into this funnel of anger and hate.
Show me where white people were subjected to red line policies or rejected for loans because they’re white.
THAT LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENS
When white people complain about racism it’s things ppl say to them. When minorities complain about racism it’s because the system is literally abusing them.
These are not the same “racism”.
Grow up. Someone calling u cracker doesn’t make you a race victim…lol
They consolidate power due to the time they spend in office. It’s incredibly hard to vote out an incumbent. They get the campaign funds because they kiss the right asses of the rich and corporate classes, and that is not serving the citizens.
The solution is term limits, and banning them from working as a lobbyist or whatever.
They get the campaign funds because they kiss the right asses of the rich and corporate classes, and that is not serving the citizens.
That just sounds like a campaign finance problem to me. Term limits are inherently anti-democratic imo so I’d really rather avoid those, but campaign finance reform sounds wonderful.
and banning them from working as a lobbyist or whatever.
A great deal of our system of government is undemocratic. In particular, the difficulty of getting incumbents out of office is undemocratic, and term limits directly address that problem. Even if they’re undemocratic in a vacuum, they enhance democracy in practice.
What if someone retired from politics and then works for Shell and pays for a free weekend getaway to the Bahamas for a Congress member? Or for their “friend”?
Sounds like we need strict laws around what is lobbying
Part of the reason why we wheel semi-conscious nonagenarians into Congress to vote on bills is because committee memberships and chair seats are given to people with seniority. So if you can hang onto a seat for a long time, you get a lot more power to determine what comes up for a vote.
If we implemented term limits we’d have to figure out a different way to determine who’s on what committee, at the very least.
Term limits for the house and the senate would be great. Not sure how you’d get them to pass though. They’re all in on the deal. Running as incumbent over and over again just seems to make them more and more invincible with every election.
I honestly think outfits like Disney are purposefully doing things to whip up white cishet resentment and get more cons into power. I realize how conspiracy-minded that statement is, but their over the top cartoonish DEI/pandering stuff seems almost DESIGNED to turn people into Republicans. It’s really hard to explain their actions as being profit-driven.
The people voting for donnie are not really voting for any serious policies; they are just flailing around and are told all Democrats are behind the more silly outbursts from the fringe. They think they’ll put Hollywood into “their place”, but what’s most likely is that they’ll just get more dirty air, hotter and hotter climate, dirty water, more corporate welfare, no worker protections, no healthcare, no education for their kids, and on and on. And all to get those wokesters…
Suggest to consider why you’re highlighting DEI a an issue. I only see such stuff from pretty right wing media.
A common trick is to blame problems on a group. E.g. black people, gay people, trans people, etc. DEI fits right into that.
It’s really hard to explain their actions as being profit-driven.
Why are people outraged? Currently the blame is on trans and DEI. You’re blaming Disney instead of the ones promoting yet another group as the cause why stuff is bad.
I’m just asking how much of an ally Disney really is. To me, it just seems to be a way to hit the hornets nest, and build up tons of resentment among a certain set of people that might be centrist/apolitical in the first place. I don’t think it’s helping the liberal/leftist cause - if anything it just seems like performance art crafted to anger a lot of people that for class reasons, might vote Democratic.
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