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bartolomeo, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'
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Religious Zionists, who believe the Jewish people have divine authority to rule from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, make up only around 14% of Israel’s population. But in recent years they have greatly expanded their influence in the military, the government and society at large,

“In recent years…” What? Israel itself is a Zionist project since the beginning, from Hovevei Zion to Herzl to Haganah to Ben-Gurion to Sharon and Netanyahu.

Blackmist, to world in Israel ‘yet to give any evidence’ UN staff were linked to Hamas massacre

I’m going to buck the trend and say I do believe that some (Israel say 190) of UNRWA staff are also members of Hamas. I’m also going to say that doesn’t justify the actions of Israel and withdrawal of international funding.

UNRWA have 13,000 staff members and volunteers in the Gaza strip. We’re talking everything from toilet cleaners to people who volunteer to hand out bags of rice and water. You can’t possibly vet that number of people when you’ve have a desperate situation at hand. You take all the help you can get.

If you dig right down into the lower echelons of any large organisation you will find people with extremist views. It’s just statistics.

Aceticon, to world in Israel ‘yet to give any evidence’ UN staff were linked to Hamas massacre

It was always only meant to be a shallow excuse to provide cover for the various Nazi-loving leaders in Western nations to cut humanitarian aid to Gazans so as to expedite Israel’s Final Solution, death by starvation.

It’s not by chance that most nations that used this excuse to immediatelly cut UNRWA funds are traditionally racist, such as as Britain, Germany, the US and Australia.

Pat12, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

They will openly say this and still the US does nothing to stop it

00x0xx, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

Just like North America, when the British sent their religious fanatics to colonize their new colonies.

BeatTakeshi, to world in Israel ‘yet to give any evidence’ UN staff were linked to Hamas massacre
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They already got what they wanted, suspended funding for UNRWA. Now they can blissfully ignore calls for evidence. In 6 years they will say that a trainee misread a paper lying in a printer

turkishdelight, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

They have been doing this for more than 70 years. Israel exists on stolen Palestinian land.

BlackNo1, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

what the fuck is wrong with humans

xmunk,

We’re greedy fucks and vulnerable to bubbles. There’s a concept that humans have a strong internal moral compass and some of us might. Most people though, just go with the flow, and let the people around them guide their morals - this seems to happen especially awfully in religious communities. Weirdly enough a fair number of awful religious people seem aware of how immoral they are and repeat the thought “Without God’s guidance we’d be animals” which just highlights how awful they actually are.

OutlierBlue, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

But I was emphatically told this was not what they were doing by several apologists! They wouldn’t have lied, would they?!

Asafum,

Maybe not the apologists, they’re just drinking the piss flavored Kool aid.

Those making the piss punch could use another type of punch. All the propagandists, everywhere.

A lot of focus on lemmy is on billionaires and not nearly enough on propagandists. It’s the propagandists that enable the billionaires to continue, and in this case it’s the propagandists that “allow” for arguments over reality to exist.

I wish hell were real, it would be full to the brim with propagandists, billionaires, and fundamental religious nutters. And who am I kidding, probably me too lol

R3t7rdssshahahqh, to world in Israel ‘yet to give any evidence’ UN staff were linked to Hamas massacre

😃

Linkerbaan, to world in Israel ‘yet to give any evidence’ UN staff were linked to Hamas massacre
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Israel just lies and lies and lies and lies. They don’t even try to hide it. Blatant lies everywhere. And their propaganda keeps being blasted in all our newspapers that happily quote their lies to manufacture consent for Genocide. The newest lie is to pretend they are letting aid into Gaza.

British member of parliament Alicia Kearns said that Israel was failing to meet its legal obligation to help aid get into the besieged enclave, citing the closure of the Kerem Shalom crossing. “I’ve just returned from the aid staging location in Egypt, thousands of trucks are sat waiting to deliver aid,” she wrote.

In response, Israeli government spokesperson Eylon Levy claimed that the crossing was "currently closed on Saturdays at the request of the UN because there is so much undistributed aid piling up on the other side".

Kearns asked for evidence from Levy, pointing out that his claim was the “opposite” of what she had been told by the UK government, Egyptian government and the UN. “They are clear the Israeli Govt requested no deliveries on a Saturday,” she wrote.

Levy has yet to respond.

Linkerbaan, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'
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maculata, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

Genocide.

Raykin,

But hey, it’s only genocide until they are all gone. After that it’s all cookies and rainbows.

Steve,

Checks with north American natives…

Yup this checks out.

UltraMagnus0001,

Smallpox bitches. Germ warfare.

spirinolas,

“Genocide!”

“It’s not genocide, they’re still there…”

later

“Genocide, they are all gone!”

“Never again 😢”

lights candle

owen, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

Oh? God told you to take their homes away? With violence?

That changes everything! Please continue.

pennomi,

For those not in the know, this is literally the founding story of Israel - God told them to genocide the Canaanites and steal their land. What we’re seeing here is violence that continues to be perpetuated by religious traditions (about events which never really happened, according to biblical scholars).

cm0002,

Religion is the worst invention ever

Zrybew,

And the state of Israel the second worst

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

What’s the verse or chapter or whatever where this can be found?

pennomi,

Lots of places (like… so, so many places), but here’s one in Numbers 31 where they kill all the men, most of the women, and all male children. In fact, Moses commands them to keep killing because it wasn’t genocidey enough the first time.

6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.

8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain;

9 And the children of Israel took

10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.

11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey,

12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which

13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.

14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host,

15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Holy shit… I always hear about this and that being in the Bible or whatever book but I’ve never seen the specifics. It’s way worse than I thought.

Thanks for the example.

Nath, to world in Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'
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That’s not what deport means. That’s displace.

livus,

At this scale that’s Ethnic Cleansing.

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