possiblylinux127,

That smells like proprietary software and drm

epoch,
@epoch@lemmy.world avatar

mpv is our saviour.

just_another_person,

Fork incoming.

gnuplusmatt,

So is this like adding mediastream adaptive like what other players have to load google’s widevine module?

OsrsNeedsF2P,

No

dutchkimble, (edited )

Remember those Winamp channels? Hope this leads into that. IPTV is supported by Winamp but not the easiest way to use it, maybe this would make that better too.

Edit - sorry I meant IPTV is supported by VLC*

hakobo,

I loved the Winamp channels. That’s where I learned about the existence of anime. I had no concept that things like Cardcaptors, Dragonball, Pokemon, etc were actually anime because I just saw them in English. But I found dubs through Winamp streaming and it sent me down the rabbit hole to buying DVDs and manga and learning to torrent fansubs. The good old days of my blazing fast 3mbps cable connection. It blew my mind coming from dial up.

Gabu,

Oh god, no…

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I’d rather be able to stream a file from my PC via VLC to other people with VLC.

If that’s already a thing, then I guess I just gotta figure it out…

neosheo,
@neosheo@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I believe you can set up a http stream and then have others connect to it

doublenom,

VLC support RTMP, streaming a live feed like twitch. wiki.videolan.org/RTMP/

VLC also support reading from network wiki.videolan.org/…/Opening_modes/

You are also able to generate a stream through multiple interfaces though I couldn’t find how. Still, it is officially reported as being possible. www.videolan.org/streaming-features.html

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I know about RTPM, but what I meant was more akin to streaming the file itself.

Take for example, me and my friends want to watch a movie. One of us has the movie. We all have VLC. The one with the movie loads the file, the others… Somehow… Connect to the VLC with the loaded file and have it directly stream to their own VLC.

doublenom,

I dig a little and there is an option on the GUI to easily stream. On the media menu, there is a stream option (CTRL+S) which allows you to stream a file using the interface you want. It will create a server and it’s up to you to make that server available to your friends (port forwarding). They will the open your video from a network interface link.

Though, while I did manage to stream between two instances of VLC on the same machine. It was after many attempts and I did not have any sound.

Not incredible, I will admit, but I’m quite confident it can work well once you understand what parameters to use.

Bristle1744,

Will picture in picture support on IOS eventually be added?

BreakDecks,

This is bad news. FAST streaming is an ad-riddled nightmare. VLC already supports streaming video just fine. Native support for FAST services just means native support for ads.

VLC already includes support for IPTV streams and M3Us. If you want to load FAST channels, you can do that now using a playlist from here: github.com/iptv-org/iptv

You’ll even get an ad-free / ad-reduced experience this way. FAST providers like Pluto and Tubi rebroadcast some TV channels and inject their own targeted ads. If you pipe the video stream into VLC, you’ll just see “commercial break in progress” filler video instead of commercials. Try it out with a local news station, they are all almost completely add free this way.

Enjoy this while you can, I guess…

Kusimulkku,

I mean it’s just another format they’ll be supporting. If you don’t want to watch in that format, don’t.

BreakDecks,

FAST isn’t a format, it’s an integration. The format is streaming mpeg like everything else.

If FAST services want to be a part of VLC, they can just write their own extension.

Kusimulkku,

I mean it’s just another service they’ll be supporting. If you don’t want to watch that service, don’t.

Better?

BreakDecks,

No, I don’t want any pro-profit ad-supported services integrated directly into a critical FOSS project like VideoLAN. This is a form of enshittification. VLC should NEVER implement native support for targeted advertising. Pluto and Tubi are already cramming ads into my smart TV, they need to stay the fuck away from VLC’s core code.

Freedom of choice is writing a channel service extension for VLC that I can install if I want to, not integrating non-free anti-consumer bullshit into the application itself.

Kusimulkku,

I really don’t see how this is enshittification or anti-consumer. Nothing about your use of or experience of VLC changes if you simply don’t use FAST streams. To me this seems similar to whether or not to ship patent encumbered codecs.

BreakDecks,

What if Disney wanted to integrate their own DRM support into the Linux Kernel so you could watch Disney Blu-Ray movies? Would you accept the “you don’t have to watch Disney movies” justification?

Kusimulkku,

I’d be fine with VLC having a way to watch proprietary Blu-Rays. I think it has that feature and it does seem useful for those who want to watch Disney Blu-Rays. VLC is supposed to be pretty much a swiss army knife of media players, after all.

If you wanted to compare to the kernel then best comparison would be to something like proprietary drivers or something.

BreakDecks,

We had to fight corporations for the right to decode DVDs and Blu-rays with FOSS software. This has been a major part of the software freedom movement. I don’t want to see a deviation away from principles.

Kusimulkku,

There’s room for both the principled take and the practicality. We have both FOSS distros and those that ship patent encumbered stuff and proprietary driver.

BreakDecks,

And VideoLAN has been pricipled for nearly 15 years. I’d like to see them stay that way.

Kusimulkku,

VLC has been distributed with libdvdcss and patent incumbered codecs for ages.

Beware: VLC media player binaries are distributed with the libdvdcss library included.

I don’t see this as at all different tbh

requiem,

Slightly wondering whether this is a roundabout way of creating Ad-Free YouTube playback capabilities. “Hey community, we are adding support for ad enabled streams. Would be a shame if you hated that so much you wrote some ad blocking plugins.”

BreakDecks,

Very generous of you to assume that adding native support for advertising is a move to protect users from advertising…

requiem,

Now you put it that way… 😃

kent_eh,

Ad-Free YouTube playback capabilities.

The last time I tried, VLC could already do that.

requiem,

That’s great, I had no idea!

Gabu,

You can already watch youtube ad-free with VLC…

requiem,

That’s pretty cool, I didn’t know!

Grass,

I used vlc once.

TypicalHog,

Why you not using it anymore?

deweydecibel,

Presumably the video ended.

Bizarroland,
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

I used to use VLC. I still do, but I used to, too.

Masamune,

A wild Mitch Hedberg appears! Have my updoot.

kratoz29,

He is using the Windows inbuilt video player… Yikes.

Grass,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/c4d8c103-3216-45ac-92b9-8aaf1afbdadd.jpeg

The computer I tried it on had it’s water cooling loop coincidentally blow both block gaskets and it’s been just sitting on the ground here since. I just haven’t watched anything since either and both my old laptop and the steam deck have whatever is default to bazzite but unused

Evil_Shrubbery,

I should not fill my custom loop with tea you say?

MajorSauce,

Thank you for sharing.

Lojcs,

Didn’t it already have that for years? Sounds like they’re ‘just’ adding support for signing in/ads

Kusimulkku,

It seems to be the FAST protocol/channels they are adding support for.

Atelopus-zeteki,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

Yay VLC!
From the tail end of the short, and easy to read article:
If you want an early look at the upcoming changes with VLC 4.0, you can download (https://nightlies.videolan.org/?ref=news.itsfoss.com) the latest nightly release from the official website or the latest “Edge” build from the Snap store (https://snapcraft.io/vlc?ref=news.itsfoss.com).
VLC 4.0 (Early Build) (Snap Store) (https://snapcraft.io/vlc?ref=news.itsfoss.com)

OrangeCorvus,
@OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world avatar

Feels like the 4.0 version has been in alpha/beta for years now? I thought they abandoned the idea.

deweydecibel,

Yes, it’s been actual years.

Pantherina,

They have an Ubuntu PPA which I used through distrobox. The weirdest way to get an app on the system, while there is a flatpak they dont seem interested in adopting it.

maiskanzler,

Changes are looking good, great to see it is still very active!

Album,
@Album@lemmy.ca avatar

Damn Lemmy users are no different from Reddit. Don’t read anything. Take anything you did read out of context. Be sure to rage post your own ignorance so we can all read about it.

Feathercrown,

You can help by clarifying the article

conciselyverbose,

There are a bunch of free channels on the internet that some TVs can just stream without a dedicated app. These channels are supported by ads like cable/whatever channels, but not locked behind a subscription. VLC is supporting whatever formats they use to allow (or make it easier; IDK) people to watch them if they want.

The other part is that they're working on web assembly to allow sites to use VLC as their embedded video player.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

I’m so conflicted about web assembly. I’m a web developer and I think it’s going to be amazing eventually but 20% of me thinks it’s going to be a security nightmare and require a decade of fuck ups to reach its potential.

MajorMajormajormajor,

require a decade of fuck ups to reach its potential.

That’s quicker than people, heck I’m going on my 3rd decade and still not at my potential. Or so I like to tell myself.

FooBarrington,

I’m mostly worried about how much less open this will make the web for simple local hacking. I often add small features to webapps I use by injecting code and hooking into their systems (when it’s not an app with open source, where I send a PR instead - and if I can work around issues I do contact the owners with a working fix).

This will be much harder with WebAssembly. Sure, there’ll be decompilers in time - but in the time it takes me to change a small piece of behaviour in such cases, I can add multiple features in the current JS environment, even if the code is obfuscated.

aluminium,

I’m more concerned that the web will get even slower and bloated. We are already seeing the first frameworks that ship a webassembly .NET runtime, Python runtime, JVM, … . I kinda fear that in 10 years when you visit a site you need to download runtime xyz in version abc for the 1000th time. All because some people or companies just can not be bothered to learn any new technology.

Ponziani,

Can web elements be sandboxed in any meaningful way?

Pantherina,

Arent HTML5 players there for that?

ares35,
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

you don't even need a player script; browsers today can play media on their own.

and scripts with added features is a very crowded market.

shinnoodles,
@shinnoodles@lemmy.world avatar

He shouldn’t have to, the point is read before commenting about a clickbait headline. If he has to spell it out that only furthers his point.

Feathercrown,

Yes, he has no responsibility to explain it. But if he would like to help anyways, he could.

wuphysics87,

Was this comment meant for another thread? I’m confused

Kbobabob,

What are you even talking about? Do you feel better after getting that off your chest?

danc4498,

Damn Lemmy users are no different from Reddit

We’re do you think Lemmy got all its users?

absentbird,
@absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

Where do you think Lemmy got all its users?

Fixed that for you.

/le reddit larping

bingbong,

tips fedora

Evil_Shrubbery,

forgets to untip fedora

Hadriscus,

unzips fedora

Evil_Shrubbery,

sudo-es Fedora to mount a cbt device to the unzipped path

ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah sure it’s user fault and not the click bait headline, I’m sure they can describe the whole article in one headline without any confusion, oh and probably half of lemmy user are used to be redditers

ipkpjersi,

You forgot to mention it’s no different from Reddit with the horrible titles either.

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