Ensign_Crab,

Biden’s hands are tied for Ukraine but not Israel.

Bookmeat,

This apology is empty if it doesn’t contain assurances that it won’t happen again.

billiam0202,

Now that kinda depends on the Russians-supporters in the House, doesn’t it?

Kalkaline,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

How can you make those assurances?

Bookmeat,

Whoosh!

That’s literally the point: he can’t. His apology is useless.

The point of an apology is to acknowledge a mistake and signal that you will attempt to change your behaviour to prevent or avoid that mistake in the future.

A really good apology will also identify the steps that will be taken to avoid the mistake going forward.

I argue that if you don’t or can’t make an attempt to change your behaviour, your apology has no meaning. That is, the apology is not sincere and therefore not useful.

KevonLooney,

You are still acting like there’s some change that Biden could make fix this. He can’t. This is a diplomatic apology, not a personal one. He’s saying “I’m sorry, this is the best America can do.” That’s an apology, whether you think it is or not. If it wasn’t, then countries would rarely ever apologize for things they can’t fix.

You’re also assuming that Zelenskyy doesn’t understand this, or would be insulted by this. You call it “useless”. As the leader of another democratic nation, Zelenskyy understands it very well and most likely receives it in the way it was intended.

Your comment is just wrong, and I expect an apology illustrating how you will change your ways.

NoIWontPickAName,

Disagree, you can’t be mad at someone for trying their best and failing.

I would say an apology isn’t even necessary there, but if someone told me they tried their best and failed and apologized, I would accept it while letting them know it was unnecessary.

If a surgeon apologized for being unable to save your loved one, is that any less authentic?

Have you never apologized for failing someone?

jhymesba,

You can apologize for something you can’t change. I apologize for people all the time, despite knowing I can’t change them. And that’s how this apology was. “We failed you because some of us are knuckle-dragging morons. I know this apology won’t fix anything, but know that we’re trying despite the fools trying to hold us back.”

Kalkaline,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

Sorry Bookmeat has unreasonable standards.

blackbelt352,

I’m really sorry that you’re such a moron, I’d like to formally apologize to everyone in this thread who has seen your words and walked away just that much stupider.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

This apology is empty if it doesn’t contain assurances that he won’t post dumb shit again.

Bookmeat,

Everyone on this thread, to date, is a monument to failure. Specifically, to reading comprehension.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

See?! He posted dumb shit again!

Bookmeat,

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  • mriormro,
    @mriormro@lemmy.world avatar
    Bookmeat,

    😂 I love this place

    KairuByte,

    I’m sorry you feel that way.

    blackbelt352,

    How can anyone make assurances when congress is literally outside the President’s control?

    PorradaVFR,

    “Sorry our nation elected a bunch of morons”.

    0110010001100010,
    @0110010001100010@lemmy.world avatar

    “Sorry our nation elected a bunch of morons Russian assets”.

    FTFY

    goferking0,

    It’s both

    gressen,

    Calling them morons just masks the fact that they’re manipulated by Russia.

    DragonTypeWyvern,

    Why? It can be both. I’d say it’s understood as both tbh.

    gressen,

    I’m not saying some of them can’t be morons. It’s just more important that they’re traitors, so let’s not forget that.

    TheDeepState,

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  • Vitaly,
    @Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

    Exactly!

    julianh,

    It’s fucking disgusting to wish for people to die. Especially when many Russians are drafted and possibly arrested if they disagree with the government.

    You can support Ukraine without being a warmongering asshole. War isn’t something to cheer on.

    TheDeepState,

    If you want Ukraine to win, then you want Russians to die.

    julianh,

    I want Ukraine to win, and ideally I want Russia to not be controlled by a war hungry fascist. And I understand that in the absence of the second thing happening, the best outcome involves Russians dying. But I don’t derive any joy from that.

    Slotos,

    So in a choice between arrest and killing innocents, choosing to kill innocents is moral somehow?

    julianh,

    That’s not what I said.

    ikidd,
    @ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

    I think they were referring to the GOP reps.

    Hadriscus,

    Come on, don’t.

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