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Please, for the love of God, VOTE! (pawb.social)

I don’t like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in...

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People need to understand that it’s possible to vote against genocide.

No, it doesn’t matter that he’s an active participant in the apparatus that’s creating the genocide, because if he’s in office there’s less genocide. Which is the important part, and pretending otherwise is sophistry. If you abstain from voting, you are increasing the likelihood of more genocide and if you discourage others from voting, you are an active participant in the overall social apparatus that is probabilistically increasing the amount of genocide.

The utility calculation is dead simple: more votes for Biden in key states makes more genocide less likely, and discouraging people from voting for Biden makes more genocide more likely. Therefore, discouraging people from voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy and voting for Biden in battleground states is an anti-genocide strategy. I live in a solid blue state, so I reserve the right to vote third party, but I will also encourage other people to vote for Biden.

You should vote for Biden unless you live in a solid blue state, and even then it’s not a bad idea.

Edit: grammar correction

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The United States won’t be destroyed by a handful of people not getting off their collective ass on election day and 3rd parties aren’t viable.

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I think your stance on the issue is entirely reasonable.

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Okay then vote against genocide.

Donald Trump is Genocide at home and abroad.

Joe Biden is “only” Genocide abroad, and probably less of it.

Therefore, a vote for Joe Biden is a Vote against genocide.

No, it doesn’t matter that he’s an active participant in the apparatus that’s creating the genocide, because if he’s in office there’s less genocide. Which is the important part, and pretending otherwise is sophistry. By abstaining from voting, you are increasing the likelihood of more genocide, if you discourage others from voting, you are an active participant in the overall social apparatus that is probabilistically increasing the ammount of genocide.

The utility calculation is dead simple: more votes for Biden in key states makes more genocide less likely, and discouraging people from voting for Biden makes more genocide more likely. Therefore, discouraging people from voting for Biden is a pro-genocide strategy and voting for Biden in battleground states is an anti-genocide strategy. I live in a solid blue state, so I reserve the right to vote third party, but I will also encourage other people to vote for Biden.

You should vote for Biden unless you live in a solid blue state, and even then it’s not a bad idea.

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Alright, but it’s not really about you, is it? There’s untold many hungry people, some of which are allergic to peanuts, and the only crate left has nothing but.

There are several people needed to open the crate. Maybe it can be opened without you, maybe it can’t maybe it’s stuck regardless. But even if you don’t want peanuts, it’s incredibly selfish of you to not only refuse to help feed the people who can be fed but also pretend to be of upstanding moral character when you do so. So take an antacid and show up at the ballot.

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It’s a bullshit complaint for many reasons, but one of them is that they already stated that they won’t participate in an easy activity to help mitigate genocide.

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By voting, you are prolonging the existence of the United States

Sophistry. Half the U.S. doesn’t vote in elections, and they’re still a global super power. Whoever told you that is an idiot.

makes the governments’ dealings with the Israel appear legitimate

More sophistry. The government’s legitimacy isn’t brought into question by a lack of votes; your actions are no different from someone who is simply politically disengaged and apathetic.

Keeping quiet isn’t an effective component of destroying the United States. Engaging in this argument the way that you are is a pro-genocide strategy because you are increasing the probability of more genocide.

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because our comfort depends on it

That’s not actually relevant to the discussion; dismantling the United States, capitalism, and/or all imperialism isn’t on the table.

If you want to have a birthday cake, and you see Timmy about to start playing with a loaded gun, you should still stop that from happening even if it doesn’t get you birthday cake. That’s especially true if there’s no birthday cake readily available.

Edit: the more I think about it, the better an analogy this is, because if >!little Timmy blows his brains out after you chose not to stop it, it seriously hampers the ammount of birthday cake you eat in the future. Because if there’s birthday cake available you probably won’t be able to eat it after that, people will be less likely to invite you to a birthday party, and little Timmy won’t have any more birthdays.!<

CW: casual discussion of graphic and dark topics.

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When trans kids are being shoved into meat grinders I’ll let them know that it’s okay because you mastered the peak of internet wit.

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I’m glad that you’re taking direct action and using your time to affect positive change. With that said, voting in Texas is particularly important, since the GOP’s margin in the state has been thinning every year. Furthermore, if Trump gets elected, there’s a decent chance that sanctuary cities could cease to be, and so I again encourage you to vote; it doesn’t take very long and can make a literal world of difference. At the very least, you should stop discouraging other people from voting, because that runs counter to our shared stated goal, and is apparently wasting your precious time.

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on my side

Nope, that’s a misrepresentation of my argument and you know it.

because you’re afraid

✨ Correct. ✨

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Those are both already poison. 😂

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I’m pretty sure Ammonia and Clorox Bleach are both alkali, also they famously mix to produce chloride gases, which aren’t salt and definitely aren’t innert.

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Ty for clarifying the gases. Chem is my worst STEM subject, so I’m not surprised I got something wrong.

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I don’t think they’re Jewish.

Even if they are, that’s not why we despise them.

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the point about the dog whistle is legit.

No, it isn’t; a dogwhistle is a message that isn’t detectable by someone unaware of it. Using lizard person like that isn’t an antisemitic dog whistle because people have been using it to disparagingly refer to the wealthy/politicians/etc. irrespective of their heritage for decades at the very least. Whether the term used to be used a specific way, or even how it originated isn’t actually relevant to the question.

Basically what I’m saying is you need to calm down and figure out the difference between being woke and being a wokescold. It’s hard to strike that ballance, but the first step is realizing you haven’t done it yet.

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Yeah, things like calling me “sweetie” and implying that my mild criticism is me acting like you committed a high crime are not exactly going to change my mind. Telling other people what to do based on a misplaced notion of what’s harmful is exactly what I mean. It reminds me of that really creepy phase of internet discourse when a large ammount of people started insisting on saying “Latinx” as a gender-neutral inclusive version of “latino” or “latina”. The worst part about that was it was an exonym that was being forced on a minority community by a bunch of white liberals who had a notion of what was wrong with someone else’s culture and were actively trying to fix it. So instead of being slightly annoying and unhelpful they were being actively harmful in their ignorance. BTW, for anyone wondering: I’ve learned through speaking with people that the preferred term is “Latine”.

Now, obviously the same damage is not being done in this instance, but it illustrates why I’m saying this, and shows the dangers of bandwagoning as soon as you think something might be perpetuating oppression. No doubt that it’s good to be aware of how our behavior affects others and to adjust accordingly, but what I see here is people defending a billionaire against a term by saying that it’s antisemitic without being educated on it by the wider Jewish community beforehand, and so I find it largely unconvincing. If I see further discourse about it I’ll investigate, and if one of my friends starts talking to me about it I’ll heed their concerns. However, a small number of strangers on the internet saying something isn’t enough to change my mind, especially not without a good argument.

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using “woke” as a pejorative

I am not using woke as a pejorative, but as a descriptor; it’s good to be woke.

“Woke scolding” is what you are in the process of doing, and it damages the cause. You’re misrepresenting me in ways that don’t make sense given the context and you’re bringing up history of terms that don’t reflect their present meaning to evoke unwarranted feelings of shame. If we were in a more public forum while you were arguing this disingenuously using the language of we who are aware of and opposed to oppression it would risk turing away once potential allies and further radicalizing individuals who have only been shown clips of visually identifiable “leftists” screaming while a chud pretends to be a reasonable centrist instead of a fascist who was just distributing Qanon pamphlets. I urge you to be more conscientious with your rhetoric.

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I asked some friends what they thought, and one of them mentioned they were accused of being antisemitic for doing exactly that. So what is true about the lizard joke that’s definitely not true about the robot one that you think determines antisemitism?

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I’m autistic, asshole. It’s how I communicate because I have a disability.

I have no way to know you’re a woman, and you don’t even know if I’m a man. You’re assuming I’m straight you’re lying about my argument, and this shit is un-fucking-acceptable. You’re a bigot appropriating language. Fuck off.

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I can fight a blue whale. The whale would fail to perceive me as a threat, and so when it wanders away I win by default.

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Wild Orcas don’t prey on humans, but if we’re ignoring that fact I’d need a decent weapon.

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My advice is that she get help from a therapist that specializes in cluster B personality disorders. Preferably all of them 'cuz holy fuck.

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MLs argue that socialism can’t be used to mobilize an economy as a way of justifying the actions of Lenin, Stalin, etc. this is a fundamentally anti-socialist stance.

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Socialist state

The thing that MLs consider a “socialist state” is capitalism where the state is a universal employer, which is decidedly not socialism.

They still strongly support worker ownership

Lenin destroyed the worker’s councils, and I’ve met multiple MLs who consider co-ops to be a bourgeois institution in disguise.

oppose Imperialism

That’s a common story, and also an outright lie. See: literally every time they defend Russian imperialism.

they can be reasoned with

Only if they’re honest in their delusions, which most of them aren’t.

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I disagree that a worker state is a thing that can exist at the scale envisioned by MLs. The defining feature of capitalism is the prevalence of the employer-employee relationship, which the USSR preserved; the state employed the workers who were alienated from their labor and had little say in the operations of their workplace. That’s not socialism.

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I don’t understand how fake eyes could make mirrors fake. There are lots of people who have fake eyes and mirrors still work.

I suppose he might be working from the assumption of hard solipsism, but in that case why would you worry about the mirrors being real when you’re already assuming every observation of reality is a hallucination?

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This is a way of thinking that simply would never have occurred to me; thank you.

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I’ve played dreamworld 1-3, adventure, and star allies. What I’ve seen of yarn was pretty off-putting, and I love the music.

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Omg you’re that hypocritical guy that was complaining about people complaining too much about Hexbear. You seriously put your take out there, got ratioed, and now you’re making a post about how people shouldn’t argue in favor of defederation? It’s one thing to say “I don’t think we should defederate from this particular instance” but to complain about people talking about it is far outside the bounds of reason.

I think you’re a Hexbear person in masquerade because you’re using the weird faux first principles argument style that conservatives and tankies use along with the disengenuous reframing tactics of trolls. People are allowed to care about things that you don’t, and they can argue in favor of things you don’t like. I find it amazing how you accused me of being a child, and now I think you were projecting.

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Dude I really don’t care what you think or say.

Sure.

I am just bored and think this is fun.

Ok, so you admit it; you’re a disingenuous troll. Blocked.

196 Stands with Palestine, but those of you in the US should still vote in the general election.

I’ve been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can’t believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C’mon guys

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This is such a garbage fucking take. A vote for Biden is a vote to delay fascism for 4 years, which we can use to fight it more effectively. You vote to buy time, and you use that time to fight. There’s not much point in voting if we don’t fight, but if you don’t vote fighting will get a lot harder and things will get worse. Go read a book and touch some grass.

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You’re making a whole lot of unreasonable assumptions about me and misrepresenting my position pretty throughly. Read a book and touch some grass.

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If there were a God, they would be constrained by the mathematics. Math is absolute in a way no god ever could.

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Is it just me or does that look like a sailor’s cap?

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Where I live a nice, off-the-shelf tea is Tazo Zen, which is a green and herbal tea with spearmint and lemongrass. I take it with sugar or honey.

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Leading an armed group of mercenaries who go pillaging across the countryside.

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I recommend playing with YAML if you like customizing things.

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The night and day crew use the same equipment for different purposes. (they’re on 12 hour shifts because that’s more efficient or something probably)

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I think it’s fun, actually. If the game never updates again I’ll be disappointed that it never became what it could have been but I won’t regret buying it or spending time playing with my friends.

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I want fewer Ark features, actually. I don’t like the way tech scales or how it’s unlocked by leveling up.

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Is it weird that I’ve butchered Pals for electric organs and fluids to make concrete but this is the thing that creeps me out?

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I don’t think there’s actually anything wrong with indulging in a fantasy of abuse (so long as all participants are sane consenting adults, that is), I just find it creepy on a personal level.

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Apex Predator my ass

Yes, I believe it will.

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