Shirasho,

You know what else kills a human? Forcing them to give birth even if they are not healthy enough to do so.

If you are going to make talking points at least be cohesive.

LodeMike,

What happened to Edmund Fitzgerald?

AFallingAnvil,
@AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s a ship, there’s a whole song about it

LodeMike,

Haven’t heard of it

AFKBRBChocolate,
gibmiser,

While the music style is not everyone’s cup of tea is an excellent example of a ballad and I think it’s a fun song And well done.

corvi,

Relevant xkcd

gibmiser,

Nice.

adarza,

there really is an xkcd for everything.

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH,

It got wrecked. Because of that fact, many people are calling for the Great Lakes to be nuked.

DeathbringerThoctar,

I have not until now heard of anyone calling for the Great Lakes to be nuked but I kinda support it. Where do I sign the petition?

https://y.yarn.co/9d6764bf-3a44-4c15-b8da-bee5b2abcde1_text.gif

LodeMike, (edited )

That’s the kind of shit Donald Trump would say.

Edit: in case there’s any confusion I mean the string literal in the comment above.

Kowowow,

It was one of the robert’s evan but not the movie one

LodeMike,

What’s that

Charapaso,

There’s a podcast called Behind the Bastards, Robert Evans is the host. Podcast about terrible people in history, Evans and guests have left wing politics and “crude” humor…it’s awesome

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Like your mom every Friday night when I come over.

https://y.yarn.co/ac4ce1da-4780-4bd4-81b3-48b26f1e58f6_text.gif

JJROKCZ,

Wrecked, 29 died, Lake Superior never gives up her dead

Feathercrown,

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down

Of the big lake they call Gitchigumee

The lake it is said never gives up her dead

When the gales of November turn gloomy

nova_ad_vitum,
Snowpix,
@Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar
uberfreeza,

Look, I don’t agree with the rest of the statement either, but tell me, what is the water touching? Oh, more water? Water is wet.

DeathbringerThoctar,
EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

When water touches water you get more water, not wet water

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

thats because water is already wet 😂

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Water can’t be wet. Wetness is a property that water gives to something else.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

like water

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Not at all

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

id argue its the same as saying fire isnt hot, just whatever fire touches becomes hot

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

And you would be wrong. That is called the Association fallacy and false equivalence fallacy.

Fire is not a liquid.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i didnt say it was a liquid

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Hence the fallacies.

Also, fire doesn’t have to touch anything it order to heat— unlike liquids.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

liquids which are…wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Again, no. Wetness is a property liquids give to other things.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

so if wetness is only something a liquid can give…what does that make the liquid?

wet.

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Still no wetness is only something a liquid can give to something else, a solid.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

because a liquid is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Nope. Wetness is something water can only give to other things, not itself or other liquids.

Water is not wet. And no matter how you try to reason through this, you will continue to be wrong.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

it cant make other liquids wet because its already wet by nature. thats just what liquids are. no matter how many times you tell me im wrong, i’ll always know you are wrong

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

it cant make other liquids wet because its already wet by nature

incorrect. this is the association fallacy-- you cannot prove it is wet other than through fallacy. wetness is only a property it can give to other things, not a property it possesses itself. water can’t be wet simply because it makes something else wet.

therefore, you are wrong.

no matter how many times you tell me im wrong, i’ll always know you are wrong

and, for that, you’ll always be wrong.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

so if someone asks if a towel is dry do you say “actually dryness is not something a towel can possess itself, only give to other things”

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

a towel is not water. dryness is not wetness.

you’re using the association fallacy and the false equivalence fallacies again, which is how you’re wrong.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

no its you being a hypocrite, which is why you are wrong

water is wet, and everything you try saying how it “only gives wetness but doesnt have it” just further is proving how water is wet. because everything that touches it becomes wet, besides water, because ita already wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Nope, and name-calling is just another ad-hominem fallacy

You have the mistaken belief that because water makes other things that touches wet that it must be wet itself. That simply isn’t the case.

I’m sorry that is so difficult for you to accept.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

hypocrite is not name calling its an observation

sorry its so hard to accept that water is wet. cant be not wet 😂

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Kinda sad you’ve gone with the whole “nuh-uh!” Name-calling thing, but that’s no argument.

Water isn’t wet, it just makes other things wet. Try not to get upset about that.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

you are making stuff up now. sad. water is wet. nothing you say will change that

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

How disappointing that you’ve turned to anger and accusations, all because you refuse to accept that water is not wet, it merely makes things that touches wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

youve started projecting now. because water is wet you must say how youre really feeling but towards me

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t have any feelings towards you at all.

That doesn’t change the fact that water is not wet, it merely makes other things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

do you not see the logical fallacy of that? “its not wet i swear its just that everything it touches suddenly becomes wet and no one knows why”

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

I have repeatedly pointed out your logical fallacies. Wasn’t it just you accusing me of projecting? Lol.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

projecting being mad not the fallacy part. and i was gonna say that earlier but kept forgetting to 😂

water is wet just like fire is hot

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Water isn’t fire— false equivalency fallacy. Water isn’t wet.

You really shouldn’t take this so personally. Have a nice nice day!

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

water isnt fire but water is wet

and its nothing personal. this is professional

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Water isn’t wet; it just makes other things wet.

And if this is your job, you don’t seem to be very good at it.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i am very good at it, ive been right the whole time

also another use of lapse in logic, one which makes unto others wet but isnt wet? sounds like a riddle with no real answer, and makes no sense

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Apparently, not, as you can’t seem to wrap your head around the fact that water isn’t wet, it Merely makes other things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

actually it is you who can’t wrap your head around the fact that water is wet, and it’s because it makes other things wet. water cant make wet water because water is already wet in the first place

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry, no. water isn’t wet, it just makes things wet. When you add water to water, you just get more water, not wet water.

Considering that this is your job, perhaps you should find another.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

water is already wet so when you add more water, yeah no shit you get more water. wet water is the same thing as saying atm machine 😂

also going towards insults about my “job” just shows you are cracking and starting to grasp at any straw you can to “win” an unwinnable argument

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Nope. Water is not wet. It just makes other things wet.

And insulting me by saying I’m “cracking” just because I’ve said the same thing over and over makes no sense. That sounds desperate. So does breaking down into foul language when you don’t get your way…

It’s just water. No need to get angry. Again.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

you are projecting again. not sure what sounds angry in any of my comments

back to water being wet, i propose a new argument. sugar isnt sweet. it just makes other things sweet. do you agree with this statement?

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

you are projecting again. not sure what sounds angry in any of my comments

You keep saying that after you do it, along with swearing and name-calling. I recommend that you go outside for a breath of fresh air. The fact that water isn’t wet, but only makes things wet obviously has you infuriated…

Maybe you’d even understand that water isn’t sugar (or fire) while you’re at it!

¯_(ツ)_/¯

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

didnt answer question. hmmm. curious

and you seem to be taking every comment in only the worst possible way imaginable. no anger here, and there hasnt been any name calling. perhaps you made it up? please show me where my comments offended you and i will explain myself clearly, for i do not know what you talk about

water is wet btw

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, water isn’t wet, it just makes other things wet. It’s unfortunate that this upsets you to the point that you have to make up stories about me and that you have amnesia about the things you’ve said— that you even confuse water with sugar and fire. You must be in quite the twist.

Relax. It’s just water.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

its not ive forgotten but my brain just made my memories get forgotten. but i havent forgotten lets get that straight

and if it is just water, why go through all the trouble of convincing that it isnt wet? feels we are just arguing the meaning of the word wet and not the word that can describe water the best (which is wet)

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

its not ive forgotten but my brain just made my memories get forgotten. but i havent forgotten lets get that straight

So… you didn’t forget… your brain forgot? lol

And I’m not trying to convince you of anything— I’m just correcting you. It’s you who have been trying all the convincing with your logical fallacies, acting like water is the same as fire or sugar. Then I have to correct you again by informing you that water is not sugar or fire. I’ve had to do that more than once now.

Since you are so confused, I suggest you take a rest. Water isn’t wet. It just makes things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

water is wet. because it makes things wet. and you seem to not grasp what a comparison is either. i never said fire or sugar was water i was comparing your logic to something else

and my first point is basically what is being said about water “not being wet” it is yet another comparison, as in i didnt forget my brain made me forget. water isnt wet it just makes things wet. comparison

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

One again, I must correct you and - apparently - your brain that makes you forget things.

Water is not wet; it just makes things wet. The transitive property of math does not apply to water because water is not math. (Another thing water is not).

You seem increasingly confused, blaming your “brain” for your mistakes. I suggest giving your “brain” a nice rest.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

once again, i must say it was a comparison. i do not know why you take it so literal. water is wet because it makes things wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Once again, it’s a false equivalence logical fallacy— neither sugar nor fire are water, and there is no reason to believe they would act like water. Especially considering that water is not wet, it just makes things wet.

This seems to be causing you quite a bit of distress and memory problems. I suggest a rest.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

what makes water so special that it absolutely under any circumstances never be compared to anything else? the fact that its wet?

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

I see you’re still confused. Water isn’t wet; it just makes things wet.

And water isn’t special, either. It can be compared to lots of things— just not falsely, as you have.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i havent falsely compared water. and i am not confused. it is pretty obvious if youve been around water that it is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

You falsely compared to water to fire and sugar. Water is neither fire nor sugar. Water has none of the properties of fire nor sugar. You are clearly very confused about what water is and what sugar and fire are.

You blamed your “brain” for this. Repeatedly.

May you and your “brain” have a speedy recovery as you ponder how water is not wet, it just makes other things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

you still dont know what a comparison is. and now you make fun of my intellect. you are out of ideas

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just illustrating the false equivalencies you made between water, sugar, and fire. Don’t blame me for the things you said.

And the only “idea” I’ve kept repeating is that water is not wet; it just makes things wet.

Insulting me won’t change that.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

not false equivalency, comparison. unless you have a comparison in mind

and stop making things up, what insults are you talking about? did your brain make you forget what you just commented?

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

“Nuh uh!” isn’t a very compelling argument. It seems that you are the one who is out of ideas and whose “brain” keeps forgetting things… weren’t you the one accusing me of projecting? Lol

Water is not wet; it just makes other things wet.

Best of luck with your “brain”!

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

you just said nuh uh isnt a compelling argument and then just did exactly that LMAO

water is wet because it makes other things wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

you just said nuh uh isnt a compelling argument and then just did exactly that LMAO

I see that your “brain” is still confused, since that’s not what happened. But it’s cute that you think it is. Like how you think sugar and fire are water.

But water isn’t wet; it just makes other things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i actually never said sugar and fire are water. funny how your alleged superior smart brain somehow missed that

but water is wet, because it makes other things wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

funny how your alleged superior smart brain

Now your “brain” seems to be hallucinating, since I never made such a claim. This whole this seems to have really upset you. Perhaps you should take a break and consider how water isn’t wet— it just makes other things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i made it up for dramatic effect

just as you have made up me saying sugar and fire are water, which i never said

maybe it is time for you to relax, take a swim in a pool of water, which is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Now you’ve devolved to lying. Sad. All because you refuse to accept that water isn’t wet, it just makes other things wet.

maybe it is time for you to relax

Worse, now you’re just copying the things I’ve said. Wasn’t it you who accused me of not having anything original to say? Lol

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

now you’ve devoted to lying. sad.

i’ve already used the sad remark in a comment, so in your reply moaning about copying you directly copy me. and when did i say you have nothing original to say? never

water is wet. i can tell because i touch it and it is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

lol, now your imagination is getting a bit carried away— and you can’t even remember the things you said. All because water isn’t wet, it just makes things wet.

You really shouldn’t let it upset you so, lol

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

im not upset. im just wondering why you are always making things up is all, and why you think water isnt wet because it is obvious water is wet, everything water touches becomes wet so how can it not be wet?

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Given your tone, the swearing, the making stuff up, and the frequent problems with your “brain”, you obviously are upset. Just because water isn’t wet, but just makes things wet isn’t cause for all of that.

Relax

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

more projection. also you cant tell tone through text. it is often misread

just because water is wet doesnt mean you have to act like this

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

more projection

You keep saying that, yet you’re the only one who uses strong language and had repeated trouble with his “brain”, hallucinating… And just because you can’t read tone in text doesn’t mean others can’t. The amount you’re tormenting yourself over water not being wet, just making other things wet… it’s silly.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

more projection 😂 you really like digging deeper holes dont you? its not that big of a deal

water is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

You keep saying that, but the only rage and pretend seems to come from your own cheer and projection. Really, I wonder, if it weren’t for the waters (that don’t wet) where would you get you wetting?

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

what does your question mean? i dont think its worded properly.

water is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Water isn’t wet— it just makes other things wet.

It’s pretty easy

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

water is wet because of that

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Because it’s not? You’re clearly confused. Take a rest and enjoy how water isn’t wet, it just makes other things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

happy 4th of july. it is currently raining. its wet. the water. from the rain. wet.

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, the water makes things wet. Glad you’re finally realizing that.

Happy holiday!

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

i have always realised water makes things wet. because water itself is wet

happy holiday!

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

There ya go with your “brain” problems again. Water isn’t wet, it just makes things wet. Better get some rest. Lol

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

more insults. quite sad. all over water being wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

No insults, just observations of your “brain” problems that you keep having, the one which keep you from understanding that water isn’t wet, it just makes things wet.

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

insults insults insults. they say insults are a sure sign that someone is wrong. guess it is now fact for all to see, water is wet

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

There’s that “brain” getting things wrong again, as you’ve often admitted it does, just like it keeps mistaking water for being wet when it just makes things wet. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

you keep saying my brain is wrong yet fail to recognize your own brain failing to comprehend when i explained what a comparison is LOL

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

You’re the one who first admitted that your “brain” wasn’t working right, which is obvious since you don’t understand that water isn’t wet, it just makes things wet. Lol

BigBananaDealer,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

your “brain” is yet again not working. you dont know what a comparison is even after explanation, why would i ever believe you when you say water isnt wet 😂

EleventhHour,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

There your “brain” goes again not working, thinking water is wet when it’s not, just because it makes other things wet. Weren’t you the one accusing me of projecting, lol?

CTDummy,

It threw me at first too. Helps to think of it as wetness being an interaction between a liquid and solid. Water makes things wet, it isn’t itself wet.

ProtoShark,

So only solids can be wet?

CTDummy,

You’d have to ask a physicist. I would be surprised if you couldn’t make other liquids “wet”. The solid analogy helps with conceptualising an interface, one material on another. I suppose you could make water wet, by freezing a block and then splashing said block with water but that doesn’t equate to it being wet itself, if that makes sense.

Rivalarrival,

Wetting is a rather complex topic. Basically, yes.

Not all solids can be wetted. Wax, for example: water beads up on a waxed surface; it does not actually wet the surface.

Not all “wetting” involves water. Soldering and brazing involve “wetting” base materials with a molten filler metal. Dripping molten metal on the base material does not necessarily “wet” it either: the molten filler can “bead” just like water on wax. When it solidifies, the filler metal is not bonded to the unwetted base metal.

tyler,

wet containing moisture or volatile components

Water is wet. The fact that this is an argument is ridiculous.

finley,

This describes very specifically how water makes other things wet. Nowhere, does it describe water making itself wet, because it can’t. Wetness is a property that water can only give to other things, not to itself.

Kaboom,

Tru fax

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