priapus,

not exactly the package manager itself, but I have a command that runs whenever I rebuild my NixOS system that shows a nicely formatted list of every added, modified, and removed package.

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Debian made me to only love apt and dpkg.

Pantherina,

Omg apt is like the worst UI there is.

Have a look at nala! It needs some depencies but is a huge upgrade

pastermil,

The worst UI?

Clearly you’ve never used zypper dup

Pantherina,

Hahaha zypper is hell. This must have looked cool when internet speed was slow. But its just horrible.

pastermil,

One of the things that keeps me from staying with OpenSUSE.

That, and its overzealous security policy.

Pantherina,

Mind to elaborate? That sounds like a good thing.

pastermil,

It would be a good thing if you want to have stuff inaccessible by your users. Reasonable assumptions when you’re the IT department with the company workstations. Not so reasonable when you just want to have a working PC for yourself (and probably your family).

The other day, I gave up on my Tumbleweed system when an update for some reason rendered my living room PC unable to connect to internet.

Maybe it was done in a good reason. Maybe it’s supposed to give me some protection of some sort. Would I need that protection? Definitely not if it keeps me (and other family members) to watch youtube.

If anyone wants to attack me thru that thing, I’d say go for it. I got nothing but my Netflix & Spotify creds. They can try infecting my media library, which I can just wipe since I got multiple copies of it.

Right now, I got Debian running on all my systems. I get to configure each of them to be as secure as it needs to be without having my operations hindered.

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Ah ah i will one day.

I clearly agree, apt is ugly and even synaptic making it better. But like i said, while ago when I used synaptic I did break my packages and I got to use dpkg and apt, to repair.

Since, I guess, I’m on a PTSD about it and now just use apt or dpkg, when using a Debian or Debian based system.

But I will listen to you, and for sure will give it a try

Pantherina,

Nala is an apt wrapper, it just displays stuff better, automates updates and automatically chooses the fastest mirror (thats the stuff I know)

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Normally like synaptic no ?

Pantherina,

I dont know why a (tui) wrapper should cause stuff apt doesnt. Its likely an apt problem.

TGhost, (edited )
@TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

No that was an synaptic issue, dont remember now the specific issue,
But it didnt managed well, certainly a bug at the bad moment for me at this time XD

But hey i dont regret, i know how to manage a broken apt DB now XD. I guess… x)

orcrist,

apt is easy to use and read. I haven’t dreamed of searching for a shiny replacement because there’s no problem to solve.

lemmyreader,

If pipx could be called a package manager it would be my most visually pleasing choice. See the video here : pipx.pypa.io/stable/

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

I detest the node ecosystem, but I do love watching NPM build packages

kerneltux,

I really like emerge/portage, even w/out the “candy” feature enabled. Great color highlighting, and verbose messages about any config change(s) needed.

atzanteol,

Portage remains to this day my favorite cli. It’s nice to look at and provides all the info I want.

It’s the one thing I miss from gentoo…

poinck,

Why miss it? It is still there.

atzanteol,

“waves vaguely”

Portage was great but losing a day whenever there was a glibc upgrade or something that caused a more “exciting” upgrade than usual wasn’t worth it. I wanted more stability after a while.

desktop_user,

Stability is for normies, embrace the compile times.

poinck,

I can’t remember ever having a glibc related update problem. eselect news is always there for me. (:

I only have rarely a perl update related problem, but usually solvable with a world update. And since there are now binpkgs I only compile what has differing useflags from the selected profile. Portage has never been better!

leanleft,
@leanleft@lemmy.ml avatar

i think you can filter this too. using stderr

Goun,

Ohh it’s been a long time since I last used gentoo! I remember I used to love the green/blue (I hope my memory isn’t failing me) combination everywhere </3.

I stopped using it because building the updates on multiple machines was becoming a pain and had a couple of drives fail, but those were good times!

BetaDoggo_,

I really like the simplicity and formatting of stock pacman. It’s not super colorful but it’s fast and gives you all of the info you need. yay (or paru if you’re a hipster) is the icing on top.

LeFantome,

I cannot wait to tell my kids I am a hipster

thfi,
@thfi@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

ArchLinux’s pacman with ILoveCandy option enabled.

Sunny,

Ouu, you have me intrigued! Would you mind sharing a screenshot of what that would look like? Never tried pacman, nor heard of ILoveCandy.

zloubida,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar
governorkeagan,

TIL EndeavourOS enabled that by default. I always thought it was standard…

thfi,
@thfi@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/a6b5ebb0-ddb9-4f75-9d4c-6985a982c4c5.webp

The “C” in the progress bar is alternating between “c” and “C” to give the impression of munching.

Zoop,

How cute and fun! I love it. Thank you for the screenshot and explanation!

GolfNovemberUniform,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Nala (an apt frontend) is the best I’ve seen so far

Frederic,

I second nala, it’s pretty enough, text mode of course.

catloaf, (edited )

Package managers don’t have visuals. What do apt (dpkg) and rpm look like?

AbidanYre,
Sunny,

Apologies, I meant via the terminal - have edited the title.

RustyNova,

Either flatpak or NixOs for me.

Flatpak is just light and doesn’t flood the user with 720710 lines just to say “installing Firefox”

NixOs just straight up has nothing to show.

Sunny,

Fair enough, visually pleasing is subjective, after all. Simplicity can be the best sometimes :=)

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