ToAllPointsWest,

Okay “Adolph”

ThatFembyWho,

Do you want the total war?

Do you want it, if necessary, more total and radical than anything that we can yet today even conceive?

-Bibi Goebels, basically

RatBin,

Large parts of the Israeli public want a deal, fearing that hostages are held in poor conditions and time is running out to bring them home alive.

Are they even thinking at their own people themselves? It seems to me they want the total destruction of gaza, including the hostages cought in these massive operations.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

“WOLLEN SIE DEN TOTALEN KRIEG?!?”

SpiceDealer, (edited )
@SpiceDealer@lemmy.world avatar

Bibi over here testing the limits of Godwin’s Law. Keep it up you fucking genocidal scum!

BeautifulMind,
@BeautifulMind@lemmy.world avatar

“total victory” sure sounds like they’ve given some thought to their objectives and it’s no accident they’re killing lots of civilians

MonsieurMack,

I wonder how synonymous “total victory” would be with “final solution” if this guy was German in the 1940s

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if Israel calls their apartheid blocks “ghettos”…

febra,

It surely reminds me of the Sportpalast Speech also known as the Total War Speech of Joseph Goebbles.

Do you believe with the Führer and us in the final total victory of the German people? Are you and the German people willing to work, if the Führer orders, 10, 12 and if necessary 14 hours a day and to give everything for victory? Do you want total war? If necessary, do you want a war more total and radical than anything that we can even imagine today?

Asafum,

“total victory” is no Palestinians and all the land.

Fucking religion and real estate all mixed together and killing innocent people…

Almost everything I hate about the world all in one disgusting package.

isles,

There are so many justifications for fascism within religions (Maybe most especially, but not exclusively, Abrahamic)

Omgboom,

“final solution” vibes

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds even better in German!

mods_are_assholes,

History will show that this man is a disturbed and bloodthirsty autocrat, but for now we have to pretend he is a sane and normal person.

unphazed,

Do I see a little moustache growing on Benny’s lip? Total Victory kinda sounds similar to “Final Solution”

Harbinger01173430,

He kinda has a similar face. I think this is a case of electric boogaloo.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I thought that was Putin.

Or Bolsonaro.

Or Modi.

Or Winnie the Pooh.

We’ve landed in a world wide rerun of “Fascists Got Talent”

Harbinger01173430,

Those three have different faces

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

He has had a sweaty combover and quadratic moustache implied since whenever the fucker was unfortunately born into this world.

PanArab,

Israel will never know peace.

Harbinger01173430,

A perfect punishment for their sins

meep_launcher,

Am I the only one who has been hearing the frustrations coming from democrats and Biden about Netanyahu? Reading these comments you’d think Biden has been best buddy’s with Netanyahu and all is squeaky clean in their relationship, which is very, VERY much not the case. You’d also think that democratic leadership didn’t just call out Netanyahu and suggest Israeli’s vote him out over Gaza.

It’s so weird that Biden is simultaneously Genocide Joe and Pro Hamas Biden.

I know talk is cheap and we are still sending military aid to Israel, but it all comes down to Biden facing daily trolley problems and balancing keeping friendly relationships with our one (nuclear capable) middle eastern country, taking the US seriously as a country that can stop a genocide by saying no to this (nuclear capable) middle eastern country, a reelection, and sending a message to the United States allies and adversaries of if we will or will not support who we say we will support.

The answer to stop sending arms to Israel is clear to us, but let’s not pretend it’s that easy. The rules for rulers are not that straightforward.

juicy,

The second half of your comment shows you know the answer to the first half. Yes, it is that easy.

MisterD,

We almost have our four horsemen of the apocalypse:

Putin = war Trump = petulance (disease via COVID) Netanyahu = famine (at least it Gaza)

macrocephalic,

It’s pestilence, but I think petulance actually suits Trump better

SulaymanF,

I don’t give Biden credit for resisting Netanyahu. During the Trump years we heard endlessly about Republicans who privately criticized Trump but publicly defended him slavishly. They get no credit, so why should Biden?

Biden’s policy was to publicly hug Netanyahu and hope that doing so would make him easy to pressure behind closed doors. It failed repeatedly. Biden is unwilling to pressure Netanyahu publicly and is instead taking the heat for him, with nothing in return. It’s pathetic and bringing down his campaign.

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I was here when Trump moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and then democrats used that as justification for why we should vote for Biden

Talk is not cheap, it is very much free of cost and carries no weight in the modern age of internet where evidence and first hand accounts are so abundant for the public to see.

The only critical reason Biden has an issue with Netanyahu is because:

  1. He’s damaging Biden’s election campaign
  2. He’s not directly controllable or influenced like how the leaders of the surrounding shill arab countries are (ex: Sisi), which is just an extension of the first reason

As long as Israel has money to pay for weapons and the US has an interest in Israel (military complex and lots of technology), very little will change even with strained relations.

The best chance of anything changing is if the conflict became wider and suddenly started costing the USA resources, which is what the Houthis were trying to achieve by sabotaging the red sea shipping lanes.

Cuttlefish1111,

BDS

werefreeatlast,

I was against this from the beginning after the first day of asswopping. That’s when the aggression should have stopped. Now I’m growing totally against this shit. I mean the civilians who have not much input are literally dying from hunger. What else do the Israeli government want? Can they do that without spending more American resources? I don’t want to end up having to watch NOVA 20 years from now explaining how the US became involved in the yet another worse human castretosfe of the century. I’ll be older and would probably fall asleep.

Maybe we just stop helping the Israeli government now?

in4aPenny,

How?

The only two candidates available want to help Israel, Biden and even more so Trump. If you’re hoping that some sort of legislation, protest, or representative will push for removing aid to Israel then I want what you’re smoking. The world will scream and shout while Israel/US does the genocide anyway, and we’ll add it to the long list of war crimes committed that we do nothing about except whine and complain.

In a democracy you have to be a player, crying into the void of the internet isn’t going to do anything. I would give my suggestions about what needs to be done, but then my comment will surely be removed by a mod. The problem is I don’t see any other solution, except hang on and let time itself deal with them.

theotherverion,

He should define “total victory”

Randomgal,

He has defined it, he means: “Total destruction of the Palestinian people and their land.”

theotherverion,

Then I hope he is unsuccessful

nutsack,

He is well on his way to achieving this goal

theotherverion,

He is extremely unsuccessful at destroying palestinian people considering the fact their population consistently rises.

However, he is quite successful at making sure Palestinian state won’t exist.

SulaymanF,

Over at least 30,000 dead and famine about to double or triple that wipes out any demographic gains for many years. “Their population rises” is also what Nazis claim about Jews to downplay the holocaust and it isn’t an actual argument.

theotherverion,

The thing is that during WW2, Jewish population dropped roughly by 30%. Do we have 30% less palestinians? Also, famine and dead civilians are part of every war. Unfortunately.

in4aPenny,

What’s your point? That we should just accept that as “business as usual”?

theotherverion,

Definitely not but at the same time let’s not compare it to incomparable.

JustZ,
@JustZ@lemmy.world avatar

Based on your feelings.

It means total destruction of Hamas’s ability to carry out more attacks.

bigMouthCommie,
@bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social avatar

as the Romans found out when trying to crush Spartacus, that's not achievable without total destruction.

Randomgal,

For Netanyahu and his fanatics, Hamas = Palestine. But you knew this already, you little troll.

Keeponstalin,

Ah feelings, that explains the over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.

Genocide

Year before Oct 7 - Jewish Voice for Peace

Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel) and Summery by the International Court of Justice

Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide – Continuously Updated

AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC

holdthecheese,

A final solution of sorts

Conyak,

There will be no “total victory” without U.S. support. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you.

Harbinger01173430,

Disgusting savage

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