Al Jazeera denies rumor that hostage was held at employee’s home

Qatari news network Al Jazeera is stridently denying any link to Gaza-based journalist Abdallah Aljamal, amid unverified rumors that hostage Noa Argamani had been held at his home in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

According to various rumors, some of which have been picked up by Hebrew-language media with varying levels of credulity, Argamani was held at the home of Dr. Ahmed Aljamal and his son Abdallah. They also claim that Abdallah is an employee of Al-Jazeera.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Please stop flagging this thread as misinformation. Whether or not you believe that the Al Jazeera journalist had any responsibility here, the article is about them denying it.

That is not misinformation. They do deny it.

goferking0,

This is the articles source

According to various rumors, some of which have been picked up by Hebrew-language media with varying levels of credulity,

How is it not?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because Al Jazeera denies it. That is a fact. If you’re saying that the Times is claiming Al Jazeera denies a rumor the Times started themselves, it does not make it any less factual that Al Jazeera denies it. And the article is about Al Jazeera denying it.

slurpinderpin, (edited )

This is a war criminal and combatant. Not a civilian. I wonder if Hamas is going to also claim him as an innocent civilian killed by the IDF?

DolphinMath,

I mean, the Gaza Health Ministry already fails to distinguish between combatants and non-combatants when reporting casualties, so does it really matter what Hamas’ political or military branches claim?

DolphinMath, (edited )

Times of Israel – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Left-Center

Factual Reporting: High

Country: Israel

MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: Moderate

Media Type: Website

Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: High Credibility

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Viking_Hippie, (edited )

Perfect example of how suspect MBFC is.

Times of Israel has such immense bias in favor of the IDF and the fascist apartheid regime, and such lax fact checking on the one subject people outside Israel read it for that it’s not AT ALL credible and MBFC, being basically the hobby of a conservative Zionist, rates it left of center and highly factual 🤦

Eta examples from the “detailed report”:

minimally loaded language such as this: US envoy suggests world should rethink PA aid after Israeli teen killed by bomb.

Failed Fact Checks

None in the Last 5 years

Both examples of absolutely atrocious levels of bias on the part of MBFC.

goferking0,

Fox news only being mixed rating is another big reason

mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

DolphinMath,

Fox News has a mixed score for factual reporting…

But a “Low Credibility Rating”

goferking0,

Low Credibility Rating

For the made up rating mbfc makes then puts no reasoning in their actual post.

MBFC tries to make itself credible then does shit like that where makes it fit what they want. like ranking higher pro Zionist publications

DolphinMath, (edited )

Want to see a headline from an Israeli source with a stronger bias?

Arutz Sheva: IDF confirms: Al Jazeera journalist was terrorist who held hostages

Their ratings from MBFC:

Arutz Sheva (Israel National News) – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Right-Center

Factual Reporting: Mixed

Country: Israel

MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: Moderate

Media Type: TV Station

Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: Medium Credibility

Viking_Hippie,

The bias is strong in the case of TOI. This is extreme bordering on !nottheonion territory.

And still MBFC rates them center right rather than far right and the factuality “mixed” rather than “low” or “very low”.

DolphinMath, (edited )

It’s all relative. Want to see something from a further right Israeli source?

Israel Hayom:

Report: Former hostage Noa Argamani held captive in Al-Jazeera cameraman’s house

Their ratings from MBFC:

Israel Hayom – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Right

Factual Reporting: Mixed

Country: Israel

MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: Moderate

Media Type: Newspaper

Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: Medium Credibility

goferking0,

Al Jazeera journalist was terrorist who held hostages

My favorite is the only source listed in every article is just IDF, totally credible

wildbus8979,

And they are subject to military censorship!

mindlight,

It’s impossible! Because that would mean that Hamas is hiding among civilians, effectively using them civilians as shields…

floridaman,

Nobody is saying Hamas isn’t using civilians as human shields, they’re just saying that it doesn’t justify bombing civilians…

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BlameThePeacock,

Yes it does.

You don’t want to die? Don’t let terrorists live in your home. Leave if you have to.

It’s the same old saying, if you have five terrorists and a civilian at a table, you have six terrorists.

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

How many terrorists have to be at the table? Itamar Ben-Gvir is a convicted terrorist. Should the cabinet adjourn every time a Kehanist or two shows up? Or does it require a 5/6 ratio before guilt by association kicks in?

ryathal,

If you have one nazi…

DolphinMath, (edited )

Going along with this thought…

Does the setting matter?

Like if I allow or invite one terrorist to live with me, is that the same as regularly attending a governmental meeting with one?

slurpinderpin,

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    FlyingSquid,
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    Don’t let terrorists live in your home. Leave if you have to.

    I’m sure that would have been very easy for the well over 10,000 children who have been killed. Especially the babies.

    I have said this multiple times and I will continue to say it- if you have to kill thousands of children in the name of protecting your nation, maybe your nation isn’t worth protecting.

    DolphinMath,

    if you have to kill thousands of children in the name of protecting your nation, maybe your nation isn’t worth protecting.

    Ironically, nearly every major nation in existence has done this at some point in their history. The world is a fucked up place.

    FlyingSquid,
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    Non-ironically, maybe they aren’t worth protecting either.

    DolphinMath,

    On one hand I can sympathize with that sentiment, on the other hand, I can’t imagine the horrors that would have occurred if the Axis powers had been allowed to conquer the world.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    The Axis Powers that were also killing lots of children and thus not worth protecting?

    DolphinMath, (edited )

    I mean, the Allied powers also firebombed civilian population centers, which was absolutely horrific.

    Edit to add sources:

    Hamburg -37,000 civilians

    Dresden ~25,000 civilians

    Tokyo ~100,000 civilians

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m not sure what that has to do with my point.

    DolphinMath,

    Ah, mostly that the Allied forces were fighting to protect their own nations, not just against the Axis powers. In doing so, they also caused death and destruction to innocents.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Again, doesn’t change what I said- if you have to kill thousands of children based on the claim that you’re protecting your nation- something the Axis powers themselves did- then maybe your nation isn’t worth protecting.

    DolphinMath,

    if you have to kill thousands of children based on the claim that you’re protecting your nation

    My point is that this was something the Allied powers did as well, and they were the only thing that stopped the Axis powers. The scale and intent could be argued, but even though military conflicts are extremely horrific, I don’t always see a viable alternative.

    To be clear, I’m also not saying that the specifics of the Israel-Palestine conflict are the same as WWII.

    FlyingSquid,
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    A viable alternative would be a one-world government, but that is the worst thing imaginable to a large number of people.

    As a Star Trek fan, I look forward to it.

    BlameThePeacock,

    Those kids have parents who are making that choice.

    Every country who has gone to war in the last century has killed children. The US, Canada, the UK, Germany, France, even Australia…

    Civilian casualties are not possible to avoid unless both sides are willing to fight in a completely separate space, and that doesn’t happen in modern warfare.

    bamboo,

    Hamas isn’t using civilians as human shields. At least, not at scale. Israel and its western co-conspirators manufacture evidence to use to justify the genocide, but none of that evidence is concrete. It’s just intelligence people making baseless claims.

    catloaf,

    Unless you define “human shields” as “another person within a quarter mile”.

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