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some_guy, to politics in Judge dismisses Nevada fake electors case over lack of jurisdiction - The Nevada Independent

As a person living in the USA, someone who is directly impacted by who sits in the Oval Office, it’s my opinion that we all have standing. Fuck this judge.

fartington, to politics in Judge dismisses Nevada fake electors case over lack of jurisdiction - The Nevada Independent

‘Totally and completely exonerated’

KoboldCoterie, to politics in Judge dismisses Nevada fake electors case over lack of jurisdiction - The Nevada Independent
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

It seems kind of ridiculous that ongoing legal proceedings don’t pause the statute of limitations for this sort of thing.

str82L,
@str82L@lemmy.world avatar

It certainly does.

Zaktor,

Or that what is essentially a court-ordered transfer of venue doesn’t just count as a continuation of the already filed case for whether it’s valid.

specialseaweed, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot

Texas Republicans have been financing Green Party ballot registrations around the country for years and years.

Yea. You might wanna check those for accuracy.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Like the Republicans have been financing top Democrats you mean right? As the biggest AIPAC donors are Republicans which have the Democratic party on their payroll.

ryathal, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot

Once again democrats already doing what Trump claims to want to do.

frog_brawler, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot

Stein is a Russian asset. While this set of actions may superficially seem a bit sketchy; this problem really shouldn’t need to be addressed in the first place.

Carrolade,

Any actual evidence of this? Usually when we make this claim we have some evidence.

frog_brawler,
Carrolade,

Yeah, not seeing any results saying she’s received Russian financing. Got anything else?

frog_brawler,

At the time of your response, my “lmgtfy” link is exactly 3 minutes old. You very obviously did not read any of the many articles that came back.

Go back under your bridge.

Carrolade,

Scrolled the headlines. Not one backs your claim. One last time, you got any actual evidence, or just “google it”?

frog_brawler,

I provided with you the means to read several articles and you read none of them. You’re the horse that stands next to the river and dies of thirst; shortly after shitting into the river.

Carrolade,

Not one of those articles claims she got Russian financing. So, I guess you’re just making this up.

frog_brawler,

You wouldn’t know; you did not read them.

Carrolade,

Don’t need to, articles about Russian financing will say they are about Russian financing.

Are you talking about botfarms perhaps?

A_Random_Idiot,

Sorry bro, that doesnt fly.

“Do your research” is republican bullshit.

You have proof, post it, directly. Its not a game of hide and seek. If you are so confident it exists, provide a direct link and stop playing games about it like a right winger.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Top 3 links showing zero monetary or other link between Jill Stein and Russia. . Only liberals grasping at straws to blame someone else for Hillary throwing the 2016 elections. Gotta keep the right wing propaganda flowing

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c00ebf55-2276-457e-a392-237284e984ec.png

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You’d need a million times less evidence to call Joe Biden an israeli plant but saying that is not allowed.

Calling Jill Stein a “Russian asset” is fine though. Liberals love projecting their own corruption on others.

Carrolade,

You can say whichever you want, this is the internet where people say shit all the time.

Just preferably bring evidence better than “person A is helping person B”. In a complicated world that usually just means person A benefits somehow.

An asset or a plant is a stronger claim though, it implies control. While that’s really fun when you’re young and looking through all the conspiracy theories, it doesn’t stand up well to adult level scrutiny, where details matter.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar
Carrolade, (edited )

Yes, I am sure he is. Or at least was until he stopped the bomb shipments over Rafah. That does not imply espionage though, just a US President supporting a military ally in a genocide. For the 500th time in our history.

edit: I’ll remind you how we treated our own Native Americans, incidentally, in our own dark past. Many of the few remaining, still to this day, live in crippling poverty. World is a complicated place.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Oh sure, my comment was referring to the other guy you were responding to. Who claimed that finding any vague relations to Jill Stein means she is a ‘Russian Asset’.

Those extreme hyperboles can far more easily be applied to both Republicans and Democrats when it comes to israel

Carrolade,

That I can agree with. The GOP is also very pro-Israel unfortunately. And they love feeling superior to brown people to boot.

JimSamtanko,

Remember this?

Wasn’t that you saying you aren’t posting in here anymore? This doesn’t help your credibility at all, especially when you cast aspersions at others.

Of course, the amount of posts/comments you’ve had removed for misinformation doesn’t help much either…

Now, care to support your accusation that liberals are projecting corruption? What corruption specific to this conversation is being projected? And what liberals? Give up some names.

TokenBoomer,

You said what I was thinking.

Cryophilia,
Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar
Copernican,

I think any 3rd party that can be used by Russia and China to harm candidates for US office will receive funding, favorable news from state media, etc. from Russia and China whether those 3rd party candidates know it or not.

reagansrottencorpse, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot

Dems only play dirty against actual leftists. When up against reactionaries, they sleep.

gravitas_deficiency,

This is far more complicated than your reductive quip implies.

Carrolade,

An opposition party wanting to inspect your petition signatures is not dirty. That’s just basic transparency.

Zipitydew,

Stein is a Russian asset so I for one fully support this move to block her. It’s not even sly. They tried this shit in 2016 and it helped Trump so they’re just running back that same plan.

Viking_Hippie,

They tried this shit in 2016 and it helped Trump so they’re just running back that same plan.

Equally true about the DNC trying harder to disenfranchise the left than they ever do to beat the GOP.

Zipitydew,

Nice false equivalence.

But sure. If the left in the US exited and showed up to vote it could have taken over the DNC like the tea party did the GOP. I’ve voted Bernie every time I could. Others didn’t. But none of that is relevant to a legitimate action of keeping Jill Stein from helping get Trump elected.

Viking_Hippie,

If the left in the US exited and showed up to vote it could have taken over the DNC like the tea party did the GOP

And you’re accusing ME of a false equivalence?

The GOP openly embraced that AstroTurf movement, seeing as the people who sponsored it were some of the same people who already sponsored the GOP in general.

In contrast, the Left is, amongst other things, defined by NOT being beholden to billionaires, hectomillionaires and their corporations.

DNC isn’t having that threat to their steady stream of legal bribes, so they fight the Left tooth and nail every election, including by breaking their own party rules while still enforcing said rules when it’s to their own advantage.

PopOfAfrica,

I wish we tried this hard to get Trump off the ballot.

Zipitydew,

People are. The problem is the courts got stacked and are now helping him out.

Passerby6497,

…did you miss the state that banned him and got overturned by trump’s goons on the SCROTUS?

PopOfAfrica,

Now, What are we gonna do about that? Probably nothing’

TokenBoomer,

I’ve seen this one before, when the Russians ran Nader to help Bush: /s

Nader, had already been subject to an extraordinary — and extraordinarily underreported — campaign of litigious harassment at the hands of the Democratic Party. John Kerry told Nader he had 2,000 lawyers at his disposal and would do “everything within the law” to win. In Arizona, Nader opponents filed a 650-page challenge to his attempt to get on the ballot, forgetting social justice concerns long enough to complain that one of Nader’s petition-circulators was a felon. They demanded ten samples of Nader’s own signature, hired a forensic examiner to call others into question, and challenged residents of a homeless shelter. The Democratic state chairman, Jim Pederson, said outright, “Our first objective is to keep [Nader] off the ballot,” because “we think it distorts the entire election.” source

Cryophilia,

The greens are not “actual leftists”, they’re a Russian asset harvesting useful idiots to help Trump win.

Zak, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot
@Zak@lemmy.world avatar

How democratic of them.

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

Someone didn’t read the article.

geneva_convenience, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot

STOP THE STEAL! STOP THE STEA…

Oh wait sorry

“Please verify the signatures that the Green party submitted/is submitting in order to gain ballot access.”

ChihuahuaOfDoom,

Never thought I’d live to see the day where I’d be accused of being a republican because I think we should follow the rules. I do think the democrats want to keep the Green Party off the ballot but I also question how they got 30,000 signatures for an election where they don’t even have a candidate declared (it’ll be Jill Stein, but still).

geneva_convenience,

The Republicans also just want to check Hillary’s emails and find out what’s beneath Pizza Hut. They are really concerned about it.

ChihuahuaOfDoom, to politics in Nevada Democrats sue to block Green Party from 2024 ballot

It sounds like this is to verify the signatures that the Green party submitted/is submitting in order to gain ballot access.

geneva_convenience,

www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/06/…/jxvj-j12.html

Call noted that the Democrats are suing the Nevada secretary of state, Democrat Francisco Aguilar, because his office provided “an incomplete file of our petitions,” which Call surmised would “be resolved simply by the Secretary of State providing them the complete file.”

Call clarified that the Green Party did not submit the required paperwork late. Instead, he wrote, “the Nevada Secretary of State processed it late and we have an affidavit to that effect.”

The Democratic Party campaign has mobilized vast resources, with millions of dollars and an army of lawyers deployed to block third-party challengers. Call said, “They are trying to bleed us out. A tactic of empire. I used the Wal-Mart analogy due to Wal-Mart’s strategy of putting its competitor out of business through overwhelming resources.”

Responding to the anti-democratic actions of the Democratic Party, Socialist Equality Party candidate for US president Joseph Kishore denounced “the efforts of the Democratic Party to keep Jill Stein off the ballot in Nevada. The SEP supports the right of all third-party candidates to get on the ballot.”

Kishore wrote that the Democrats’ efforts “to block candidates from obtaining ballot status is an attack on the most basic democratic right, the right to vote. The two parties of the capitalist ruling elite want to prevent workers and youth from having the ability to vote for anyone besides Biden and Trump.”

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