queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

Also doubles as a kill list for when they decide it’s time.

gregorum,

I’m pretty sure they just decided.

sugarfree,
@sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

Utterly absurd levels of paranoia on display in this comment.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Welcome back! I'm sure you have a lot to catch up on after being in a coma or whatever. Number 1, an angry mob tried to kill the vice president and 12 million people think they were right to do it and it's a shame they didn't succeed.

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

To be fair, if you killed all your politicians maybe America would be a better place.

willington,

To be fair, if you killed all your politicians billionaires maybe America would be a better place.

FTFY

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

¿Por qué no los dos?

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Billionaires can only become billionaires by forced monopolies and lobbying. Remove the politicians who are being bribed and replace them with normal people. No more billionaires.

Dark_Dragon,

Why not both?

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Are you aware what usually happens in countries where they start killing politicians? Like historically in actuality, not just the "how it plays out in the original plan" way?

queermunist,
@queermunist@lemmy.ml avatar

🤡

conditional_soup,

You clearly don’t know the Christian Nationalists I know. Let me ask you something, only for true believers. If you really truly believed in your heart that God was calling you to kill in his name, would you do it?

sugarfree,
@sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t believe in God.

conditional_soup,

Then do you have some context to understand what I’m asking? Because I know my share of Christians that either get uncomfortably quiet with that question or very confidently answer yes.

SoylentBlake,

It’s mind boggling that there are people who think God couldn’t come up with a better solution than murder. I mean a micrometeorite could take anyone of us out at any point. Or he could wait for us to yawn and have a murder hornet fly into your mouth. Or y’know, being God and all and capable of doing anything, he could just have his giant disembodied hand come out of the wall, grab us and pull us to the other side, a la Legend of Zelda and that’s just if he insists on making it a spectacule and not just snap* aneurysm.

Seleni,

Boy, I wish. Speaking as someone who knows these people, no. This is exactly what they want to do.

onlinepersona,

You’re one of the lucky 10000 today. Read up on Jewish registrations in the Netherlands.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Facebones,

Welcome to the primary purpose

onlinepersona,

This is exactly what the nazis did when they invaded multiple countries. Found the registries of Jews and you know the rest.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

someguy3, (edited )
mozz, (edited )
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

There was a Masto post recently where someone's conservative mother told her that she knows being gay is a choice, because she feel attraction to girls, but she chooses not to act on it, and that's the responsible Christian thing to do or w/e.

It legit made me all of a sudden realize why there's so much overlap between "we have to punish the gays and make it illegal" and "I secretly go to male prostitutes all the time" in Republican circles. It just all of a sudden harmonized and clicked into place and made perfect sense.

someguy3,

Many that think being gay is a choice, are in fact bisexual themselves. So for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. And they project that everyone else is the same.

fushuan,

And even then it’s not really a choice, since you can’t really choose to stop having feelings. I guess that for bi people it’s easier to pretend, but where there’s love, there’s love.

It’s like, being a hetero dude and vlbeing forced to go with a girl when there’s another one you love. It’s hard in any case.

NoTittyPicsPlz,

People tend to project themselves on other people. We all do it, and it can be shocking to find how different people actually are from each other. I’ve heard all my life from certain Christians that people who are atheist have no moral compass and there’s nothing stopping them from killing and raping people. Which I find revealing, because they are saying their beliefs are the only thing stopping them from doing those things. I have never once wanted to rape or kill anyone, maybe that’s why it’s easy for me to not believe in god.

jjlinux,

That about the moral compass, and telling you that you cannot be happy without Jesus in your life are crocks of manure I know plenty of non-christians that live extremely happy and are much Kore decent than most of the Christians I know, including myself. In the same subject, I know plenty of Christians whose demeanor wouldbhave satanists praying for them since they could be worse people. And religions? Biggest issue in the world, bar none. Having faith is one thing, I have faith. I do NOT follow religion. Religions are full of dogmasbthat you are supposed to follow without question. Religion is what has Gaza busted the way it is.

squid_slime,
@squid_slime@lemmy.world avatar

Top tear post.

DirigibleProtein,

Made me cry too

HowManyNimons,

It’s projection every time with conservatives. They hate you because they think you’re as shitty as they are.

sugar_in_your_tea,

As a Christian: this is absolutely despicable. Jesus taught us to love our neighbors, and a huge part of loving someone is to respect their boundaries.

So screw this app and the people that built it. If you want to invite your neighbors to learn about Jesus:

  1. Set a good example
  2. Get to know them
  3. Invite only when it’s relevant (i.e. to a kid’s baptism or whatever)

If they want to learn about Jesus, they’ll ask.

TheLowestStone,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

As an atheist, I wish there were more Christians like you.

Isoprenoid,

There are millions of them. You wouldn’t know it though, because they don’t announce themselves.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Yeah. I'm not religious but I've worked with church groups and actually every one I can think of immediately, was out for good and doing Christ things. I think the more prejudicial ones just are more vocal about what they're doing.

RIPandTERROR,
@RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works avatar

As an atheist, I wish there were less Christians and more demons

Facebones,

As a metalhead, same.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If I were the devil and this world was mine to seeWell, I’d witness all the atrocities and it’d probably frighten meSo I’d run back home with a story to tell**I’d tell all my demon friends that I always preferred Hell— Colby Acuff

One of the existential terrors of deconstruction is realizing the human species is plenty capable of evil and atrocity, that no demons are needed

Then when we’ve seen the absolute worst humans could imagine, Sir David Attenborough comes along holding Nature’s beer.

Asafum,

Every concept of hell and the details on what earns you a spot there I have always translated to “hell on earth.”

As in: the things someone would do to earn them a spot in hell creates hell on earth. There is no hell other than the hell people create for us here.

arin,

Good Christians leave because they realize who are in power and what corrupt shit have been going on

possiblylinux127,

Honestly people US would move naturally to Christianity if the church as a welcoming nonjudgmental place.

People don’t need to be Evangelicalized. I think there are some lessons the all White Churches could learn from the historically black Church.

somtwo,

As an ex-christian, the most un-christlike behavior is often espoused by Christians.

sugar_in_your_tea,

As the saying goes: one bad apple spoils the barrel.

I think most Christians are fine, at least the Christians who understand and try to follow Christ’s teachings, it’s just the few “Christian influencers” or whatever that are a pox on society. I try to distance myself from them as much as possible, and encourage the rest to be better examples.

caveman,

Well, militants are always annoying, be they Christian, lefties, Righties, vegans, meat eaters or whatever

echodot,

It’s because they craft their entire identity around that particular thing. It does not matter what the belief or how illogical the belief, if you question it, or are simply not prepared to go along with it, they get really angry and incoherent.

caveman,

I mean I know people who are vegan or religious or atheist which are not annoying, but as you said some people make it a huge part of their identity and it sucks.

jjlinux,

That’s exactly right. Most of them have no capacity for critical thinking whatsoever.

watson387,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

Hence their being religious.

jjlinux,

That would be an accurate assessment, yes.

possiblylinux127,

I feel called out as a Linux user

jjlinux,

I somewhat agree with you. The problem is that all those bad apples are the loudest of the bunch, which is why people, understandably, try to avoid all Christians like the plague. I did too for MANY years, until I was the target of a miracle myself. But that didn’t change my behavior towards people, I still treat EVERYONE with respect, and as kindly as I am able to (sorry, still human, so not always possible, lol).

sugar_in_your_tea,

The same is true with Muslims as well. A lot of people in the west dislike Muslims generally because of the relatively small percentage of extremists, yet the Muslims I work with are fantastic people. My coworker (Christian, I believe) married an Iranian woman (Muslim), and said the people in Iran are generally quite awesome, it’s just the minority who is in power that causes the problems.

In general, most people are pretty chill, regardless of religion (or lack thereof). So please, if you feel like a stereotype is accurate, go out and meet people from that demographic in real life (not on SM), and you’ll likely realize most people are good. It doesn’t really matter what the demographic and stereotype are, most people don’t fit it.

jjlinux,

I have a bunch of friends, coworkers, employees and business associates that are Muslim. Some live in my country, some in the US, Egypt, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Irak, all over the place, and all of them, without exception, are amazing people, super humble, can take jokes, even about religion, and are incredibly respectful of everyone else regardless of any perceived difference. My family and I went to the New York side of the Niagar Falls for New Year of 2019, where we know absolutely nobody. When we got to the AirBNB late at night, my wife and I went out to buy some water, some food for breakfast the next day, and everything was closed. We found a small store that was open and when we walked in we were greeted by this guy originally from Iran, Muslim. We started talking like we were friends for years. Before he left he offered to make us dinner the following night. I’m Dominican, and I have yet to meet someone as nice and outgoing as this guy and his family. We met almost every day for the 2 weeks we spent there, and I am grateful that I met them. We had an amazing time. I’m sure there are some nasty people out there, just like there’s a bunch of nasty people everywhere and from all walks of life. Bottom line is that we can’t tell who is who just by race, religion, nationality or any of those things. Take the time to know the person, more times than not, you’ll be grateful you did. I’m sorry, I’m feeling really hyped with this thread. You guys have restored some of my lost faith in humanity. Thank you very much.

jjlinux,

Thank you. I thought I was alone in the world, haha!

possiblylinux127,

At the very least they should target people who consider themselves Christian but have stopped going to Church for one reason or another.

Although to be fair many of the more “dedicated” Churches function more like a cult

sugar_in_your_tea,

I don’t think they should “target” anyone. The entire basis for this app is creepy at best, and it shouldn’t exist in this form. If people want a way to discuss things, they should instead share anonymous experiences.

But yeah, there are a lot of weird, culty “churches” out there, where I suspect the leadership is knowingly manipulating their congregations. But there ale also a lot of accusations of culty behavior that really aren’t applicable, so it’s a mixed bag. At the end of the day, I think most people are decent, regardless of religion, it’s just the really vocal minority (the brainwashed minority, as well as those who left) that make the most noise.

wise_pancake,

That is absolutely terrifying.

If I made a least of where all the Christians live, they’d rightfully freak the fuck out.

zwekihoyy,

they’ve done it for you by accident

peepee_longstonking,

The church is an organization that preys on people using their fear of death.

Churbleyimyam,

Hinduism is a religion that preys on people’s fear of not really dying at all.

AtmaJnana,

oof. Never noticed that about reincarnation. What could be worse than dying? Being brought back to suffer more.

peepee_longstonking,

interesting

Breezy,

It would be a real shame if people started leaving reviews on the play store with their concerns. Real shame i tell you, its sitting at a 4.7 rating with all but 1 five star, and they gave it a four star.

Anyways for any god loving Christian who just wants to download their app to pray for their neighbors, ive taken the ten seconds needed to visit their site and grabbed their app links.

Android play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blessev…

Apple apps.apple.com/us/app/…/id1541313484

CowsLookLikeMaps,

This definitely shouldn’t be the top comment. Don’t cross-post it to other communities who prefer that christofascists don’t harass and dox immigrants and any non-christians they hate (see: most genders).

Noooooo sir.

cm0002,

And definitely don’t report it as “Hateful or abusive” content or anything, it’s not like Google or Apple is using automated algorithms to auto disable apps for a period of time after certain thresholds of reports are hit or anything like that

FirstCircle,
@FirstCircle@lemmy.ml avatar

While I’d love to add my opinion to the Play Store reviews, there’s no way in Hell I’m installing some kind of Christofascist malware on any device that I control.

Finalsolo963,

Virtual machine and a burner gmail account lol

onlinepersona,

Install waydroid, install the app, give it a bad rating, uninstall

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

FirstCircle,
@FirstCircle@lemmy.ml avatar

Was not aware of Waydroid, thanks for the link.

Tedrow,
@Tedrow@lemmy.world avatar

I’m doing my part!

harry_balzac,

Downloaded, used an empty home for the address, selected The Satanic Temple as my church, deleted the app, and gave it one star. Took 5 minutes.

Facebones,

I don’t have play store on my phone anymore 😭

harry_balzac,

That’s probably a good thing, though.

Facebones,

Yeah, I run Graphene OS. I have play store and play services for apps that need it, but theres no Google account on my phone and those apps are installed as normal apps (not elevated perms) and are also sandboxed

jjlinux,

Smart move. Ibgotbrid of that about 2 years ago. My battery has never lasted this long before that 🤣🤣

HonoraryMancunian,

Join an ever-growing community of Christ followers who are devoted to being a Light in neighborhoods through praying for, caring for, sharing the gospel with, and discipling homes.

Holy shit

HonoraryMancunian,

Oh wait it says discipling not disciplining. Not quite as holy shit worthy.

Potatos_are_not_friends,

Welp, time to create the reverse app and tag houses that are religious.

Do what you want with that information.

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Nah, just wait for the inevitable data dump because they won’t pay for competent security, and invert the data. No need to get the data yourself when they’re pretty much doing it for you!

qaz,

Just check all the account addresses

onlinepersona,

Do you mean a surprise distributed data backup?

(referencing a recent meme on !programmerhumor)

books,

Got a link that sounds hilarious

onlinepersona,
possiblylinux127,

Maybe the Jewish population could start a protest in front of there Church

LillyPip,

These lunatics have a disturbing amount of control in the US government.

Laughing at them might be fun, and I was doing it until recently, but they’re not joking. The worse our climate disasters become – and they will very soon – the more scared people will become, and the more these groups will take advantage of that fear. We’ll see more climate refugees, more desperation, and more fear. These groups prey on fear, and they’ll amplify it on purpose.

True fascism thrives on fear, which is why these people amplify it like they do. When climate disasters accelerate, these groups will harness the social upheaval to take control. I don’t know what we can do to stop it, but we should all be thinking about and sharing ways to head it off, because they’ve got plans in place already.

I know I sound paranoid, but I’ve been watching them and these aren’t my ideas, but theirs. They talk about this a lot, and if we aren’t prepared, their plans could actually work. I don’t want to live in the fascist future they’re planning. If we don’t combat it, we’ll be living in the Handmaid’s Tale before most of us realise.

archomrade,

OK, does this title end abruptly or am I just really high?

FiniteBanjo,

“WE MUST CONDUCT DOOR, COMRADE.”

mvirts,

ALL ABOARD!

they heard as the conduct door took one last look at the platform.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Lemmy has a different title length limit than Mbin, as I just now discovered. I kinda like the modified version though. 🙂

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

Both!

archomrade,

I’m in no position to deny this.

pelespirit,
@pelespirit@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is a yikes, they’re doing the Westboro Church tactics without wanting the money, just to harass.

The Mapping Center for Evangelism and Church Growth’s founder and president Chris Cooper suggests using the app to conduct neighborly activities such as putting on a barbecue for potential converts, but scattered throughout the app’s training and promotional videos are suggestions to undertake the controversial practice of “prayerwalking.” An idea becoming increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking involves believers flooding so-called “un-Christian” territories in order to combat “demonic strongholds.” In practice, it varies from blessing new neighbors to gathering groups to pray in front of everything from mosques to drag bars in service of “spiritual warfare.”

gregorum,

And how long until this app gets tied to a mass shooting and a spate of burning crosses?

Diplomjodler,

I’ll give it about a week.

themadcodger,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

"It was a deeply disturbed lone wolf. It's unfortunate, but there's nothing we can do. Thoughts and prayers."

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

"By the way we added a new feature! Now you can filter by..."

mods_are_assholes,

Wait till they start using that same data to harass and target.

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

Isn’t that what they have always done

mods_are_assholes,

Never this efficiently and from such few tracks.

books,

Can I use it to find like minded individuals?

MonkderZweite,

No, they are not in the data.

Asafum,

I mean that’s exactly where we are headed in the US.

Project2025 in part wants to institute laws against blasphemy… They quite literally want to make the united states a theocracy, absolutely no fucking exaggeration here. It’s literally what they want.

phoenixz,

Serious question: Any source on that?

BreakDecks,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Read the “Christian Nationalism” section.

Asafum,

I’m at work so I can’t dig for something better, but this was posted yesterday so it was a quick pull from my browser history.

thenation.com/…/christian-nationalism-trump-repub…

Edit: don’t be dumb guys, don’t downvote them for simply asking for proof of a claim I made without evidence lol

phoenixz,

Thanks for the link! And thanks, people down vote too fast when people ask questions. I wasn’t even asking for proof, I was just curious and wanted to read more

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Door

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

It is conducted

INHALE_VEGETABLES,

Well are they doing it or what

HowManyNimons,

My job is door.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

I edited it, it's just not federating for some reason, and now everyone's making fun of my title

CowsLookLikeMaps,

JFC, I installed the app and added “my address” and immediately was given a list of names and addresses to “pray for”.

How am I supposed to pray for so many people!? What am I, an ATM?! Gelatians 4:20:69 had nothing to do with Gelato!1! This is getting 1 star and reported on the app store.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/8e454d86-6f90-4c79-ac55-0cce5c5791b0.jpeg

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

What the FUCK

For some reason it didn't sink in to me from reading the article how weird and sinister this is

CowsLookLikeMaps,

Literal names and addresses. Unbelievable.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Can you filter it to only immigrants? How flexible is the display of people's names and addresses, family vs no kids, young or old, things like that?

CowsLookLikeMaps,

Uninstalled already. It was pushy about asking for my church address so they could contact them to promote the app.

mozz,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Got it. I'm just gonna go back to assuming the worst.

possiblylinux127,

You know what they say, good Christians are ATMs

jjlinux,

Dude, that’s beyond creepy. I know of 1 christian that will certainly never install that thing. Not that I can right now, since I have absolutely no Google or Apple store at my disposal. all the way.

tooclose104, (edited )
@tooclose104@lemmy.ca avatar

This is terrifying. Thank fuck I’m not in the US. I already get anxious when some random knocks on my door. If they started spouting off about praying for me and my family I’d be weirded right the fuck out.

Granted, I love my physical privacy. I generally don’t answer the door to plain cloths unless I’m expecting someone. My 5 year goal is to move outside of my current town and have no neighbours. Preferably with a nice long driveway that I may install a gate on at the road.

emptiestplace,

Your physical is quite nice.

tooclose104,
@tooclose104@lemmy.ca avatar

Thanks, I get quietly called brave a lot for it at the beach!

possiblylinux127,

So did you pass? (Your physical)

tooclose104,
@tooclose104@lemmy.ca avatar

Lol clean as a whistle

Vacknick,
@Vacknick@lemmy.ml avatar

This is concerning. I don’t want some stranger knowing personal details about me before I even know they exist

init,
@init@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve received letters twice from the same individual who belongs to a JW church. The first was when they moved into the area, and the second was when I moved to another place.

Your property ownership records (if you’re American) are public records, and if you grab it within like, 3 years (where I live), you can even find the closing price and more detailed information on the sale.

Demand better privacy laws.

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