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ShareMySims, in Labour to 'simplify' gender transition process if elected

Never going to happen. I’m just going to leave this here:

Blair right that a woman has a vagina and a man has a penis, Starmer says

flicker, in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I kind of hate this.

I’ve known so many trans women who can never reach what they feel is “pretty,” so they don’t feel like women.

Pretty is an arbitrary, moving goal. Being a woman has nothing to do with being pretty. Lots of unattractive women exist.

bigboig,

I think that’s like half the point of the comic

subverted_per, in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Yeah… I had that thought so many times. Didn’t realize what it meant till recently.

Transporter_Room_3, in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

Yeah but I don’t want to be pretty all the time, so… checkmate, atheists?

dactylotheca,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Wanting to be pretty is completely optional. Personally I’m aiming more for feral

Daxter101, in AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Stop. I’m too egg for this

dactylotheca, (edited )
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Welcome to the dark trans side. We have cake.

Coasting0942,

We have cake.

Hip thrusts included

NakariLexfortaine,

Is that a giant spoon I hear speeding its way over?

dumples, in Queer Activists Are Making BDS a Key Question of Pride This Year

I thought pink washing was fake support for women’s rights and rainbow washing was fake support for queer rights

ToastedPlanet,

femmagazine.com/feminism-101-what-is-pinkwashing/

Pinkwashing was first used to refer to companies that superficially supported breast cancer awareness. It has since been used to refer to companies that superficially support queer people. Given the context of the op’s article, pinkwashing or rainbow-washing could be used interchangeably. Using pinkwashing to refer to companies using the pink ribbon for disingenuous marketing campaigns is still a valid usage of the term.

dumples,

That’s what I thought. It made sense in context but I thought it was about something else

yildolw, in All 64 of the countries where it’s illegal to be LGBTQ+ – and yes, it’s all colonialism’s fault

Would Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and arguably Afghanistan be the fault of Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist colonialism?

Stalin made homosexuality illegal in the Soviet Union and continued the Russian colonization of central Asia. Brezhnev invaded Afghanistan. The laws weren’t repealed until Russia seceded from the Soviet Union in 1991

Shyfer, (edited )

Idk about the others, but for Afghanistan, it’s probably because it was taken over by religious fundamentalists trained, supported, and armed by Pakistan, Iran, and the US in order to fight off Soviet Union influence, along with some other countries (China, UK, probably some others). They basically invaded because they were called in by the local government afraid of these terrorist groups, who also called problems in the Soviet Union (similar to the US invading after 9/11). (Interestingly enough, the Pakistan influence can also be said to be a result of colonialism since it’s existence is basically a result of English colonialism in India and the Middle-East.) After this, Afghanistan was basically a civil war zone between religious fundamentalist warlords fighting each other, the most extreme being the Taliban, but the other US allied ones weren’t great, either, and were all still fundamentalist Muslim.

The official anti-LGBT laws were vague when the Republic (the Soviet friendly government) was in charge, all of the terrible attitudes were probably still there but under religious rules and unofficial, and being invaded by the USSR for years never helps those kinds of things, either. It was more intense when the US friendly war lords were in charge and made Sharia more official, making LGBTQ laws worse as a sort of collateral. It then got even worse when the Taliban officially took over, now it’s even more explicit and the punishment even worse (death). I haven’t read the article yet so not sure if it talks about any of these things, or if I got anything super off, but I’ve just been listening and reading stuff about this lately and felt I could contribute lol.

Fleur__, in My beautiful child...
@Fleur__@lemmy.world avatar

This post is so strange

ToastedPlanet, in Queer Activists Are Making BDS a Key Question of Pride This Year

This year, in part due to growing global support for Palestinians, an analysis of pinkwashing is on more people’s tongues than ever before. Ghanem and Koval both organize in Raleigh, North Carolina, where Out! Raleigh Pride, the city’s major pride event, agreed to join the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement for the first time this year. This week the organizers of Out! Raleigh Pride confirmed via email that they will give back funds the organization received from pro-Israel entities in order to become BDS compliant. That may make Raleigh the first major mainstream pride event in the U.S. to formally join the BDS movement.

Queer people should support the Palestinian people. Pinkwashing has become increasingly ridiculous. Corporations are signaling they support queer people and then donating to Republicans. Israel’s genocide isn’t improving the conditions of queer people anywhere or spreading tolerance of any kind. We shouldn’t allow ourselves to be used as a wedge issue against the interests of the Palestinians when corporations have no interests upholding or forwarding the rights and aspirations of either group.

popular.info/…/these-25-rainbow-flag-waving-compa…

JimmyBigSausage,

Nopes. Not this old faggot.

ToastedPlanet,

…project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.p…

Here is an excerpt from Project 2025 from page 481.

Protect faith-based grant recipients from religious liberty violations and maintain a biblically based, social science–reinforced definition of marriage and family. Social science reports that assess the objective outcomes for children raised in homes aside from a heterosexual, intact marriage are clear: All other family forms involve higher levels of instability (the average length of same-sex marriages is half that of heterosexual marriages); financial stress or poverty; and poor behavioral, psychological, or educational outcomes.

For the sake of child well-being, programs should affirm that children require and deserve both the love and nurturing of a mother and the play and protection of a father. Despite recent congressional bills like the Respect for Marriage Act that redefine marriage to be the union between any two individuals, HMRE program grants should be available to faith- based recipients who affirm that marriage is between not just any two adults, but one man and one unrelated woman.

Republicans view heterosexual marriages as superior to homosexual marriages. Republicans came for Roe v. Wade and they are going to come for Obergefell v. Hodges. Gay men aren’t done fighting for their rights no matter how old they are. Using intersectionality as a road map to allies in our fight for LGBTQ+ rights is essential. This includes the Palestinian people. Allowing ourselves to be divided plays right into the hands of the people who want to take our rights away.

JimmyBigSausage,

Finding allies is one thing, but bringing periferal issues into the umbrella of “gay rights” is another. Don’t dilute our efforts and make us lose our focus (which is what they want). There are too many grassroot interests to place them all under the same umbrella of gay rights. Political strength will be watered down. Never assume all share your thoughts on every issue.

ToastedPlanet, (edited )

The groups that want to take away the rights of gay men and queer people in general are the same groups that want to take away the rights of the Palestinians. Since we are in a shared struggle against the same organizations there is no dilution of effort in taking up each other’s causes. edit: typo

JimmyBigSausage,

Thinking you might have a wee bit more research to do?

ToastedPlanet,

How so? Pinkwashing corporations that are complicit in Israel’s genocide and the Republican Party sound like shared antagonistic organizations to me.

JimmyBigSausage,

Since you have to ask and can’t look it up yourself:

queermajority.com/…/british-imperialism-didnt-cau…

ToastedPlanet,

The linked article about the root cause of homophobia in Palestine has nothing to do with BDS. Hamas being a far-right Islamist organization, that is homophobic, doesn’t justify the actions of Israel or the corporations that are complicit in their genocide. Israel’s right to defend itself isn’t a blank check to violate international law or commit crimes against humanity. The Palestinians aren’t represented by Hamas. So the fact Hamas is homophobic doesn’t mean all Palestinians are homophobic. Israel’s current government, which is fascist, is lead by Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu’s goals are preventing Palestinian statehood and staying out of prison. Netanyahu is not interested in freeing Palestinians or freeing queer Palestinians.

JimmyBigSausage,

🤦🏼‍♂️

ToastedPlanet,

🇵🇸 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Don’t dilute our efforts and make us lose our focus (which is what they want).

One doesn’t lose focus on human rights by focusing on human rights…

JimmyBigSausage,

Focus:

  1. Verb Form [intransitive, transitive] to give attention, effort, etc. to one particular subject, situation, or person rather than another
ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

My focus is human rights. I’m not sure what yours is, but it’s not that…

spujb,

to place them under the same umbrella of gay rights

This might be your key misunderstanding! 🙂 With emphasis, this is not what the article is saying nor what is happening.

When pride leadership associated itself with the Civil Rights Movement, it was not an adoption or enrollment of the Civil Rights Movement into LGBT rights. It was an alignment and an extension of mutual support and solidarity, recognizing that both communities had individuals and resources in common and faced a common enemy in the form of white supremacy.

When pride leadership associated itself with the feminist movement, it was not an adoption or enrollment of feminism into LGBT rights. It was an alignment and an extension of mutual support and solidarity, seeing that both communities had individuals and resources in common and a common enemy in the form of gender-based discrimination. Historically, many early feminist activists, such as those in the 1970s, also championed LGBT rights, recognizing the interconnectedness of their struggles.

When pride leadership associated itself with the labor movement, it was not an adoption or enrollment of the labor movement into LGBT rights. It was an alignment and an extension of mutual support and solidarity, understanding that both communities had individuals and resources in common and a common enemy in the form of economic injustice. For instance, the 1980s saw significant collaborations between LGBT activists and labor unions, particularly in advocating for workplace protections against discrimination.

When pride leadership associated itself with the indigenous rights movement, it was not an adoption or enrollment of the indigenous movement into LGBT rights. It was an alignment and an extension of mutual support and solidarity, acknowledging that both communities had individuals and resources in common and a common enemy in the form of colonialism and cultural erasure. During events such as the 2016 Standing Rock protests, many LGBT activists stood in solidarity with indigenous peoples, highlighting the shared struggles against marginalization.

When pride leadership associated itself with the Black Lives Matter movement, it was not an adoption or enrollment of BLM into LGBT rights. It was an alignment and an extension of mutual support and solidarity, recognizing that both communities had individuals and resources in common and faced a common enemy in the form of systemic racism. For example, during the 2020 protests, many LGBT organizations showed solidarity with BLM, acknowledging the unique challenges faced by black LGBT individuals.

When pride leadership associates itself with the pro-Palestine movement, it is not an adoption or enrollment of the pro-Palestine movement into LGBT rights. It is an alignment and an extension of mutual support and solidarity, seeing that both communities have individuals and resources in common and a common enemy in the form of occupation and human rights violations.

In all cases, this alignment of communities served to amplify the voices of all parties. “Dilution of political power” by doing solidarity is just not a thing that happens.

spujb, in Queer Activists Are Making BDS a Key Question of Pride This Year

stay winning 💪💪💪

JimmyBigSausage, (edited ) in Queer Activists Are Making BDS a Key Question of Pride This Year

No, we are not. Sorry but protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here. Whether you agree or not. Sorry.

lembas,

Did you read the article?

No, we are not.

The article describes multiple queer activists and groups supporting BDS as a component of Pride.

protests outside of LGBTQ+ rights do NOT belong here

The article also describes the direct link between BDS and Pride.

JimmyBigSausage,

Who cares what an article says?

spujb,

me i do i think it’s cool that these leaders are fighting for human rights across the gamut and i appreciate reporters that identify and celebrate this action

solidarity

in the fight for a free Palestine the “your identity would get you killed in Gaza” has been used as a pro-Israel pro-genocide weapon and erasure of of queer Palestinians. it is objectively good for queer leadership to align itself with other instances of human rights activism.

lembas,

Anyone participating in this discussion in good faith

JimmyBigSausage,

I am.

spujb,
JimmyBigSausage,

Because I am an old man and I know what it took to get to where we are today. And watching other unrelated “movements “ try to latch onto gay pride as something to do with it is something quite disingenuous and sickening really.

spujb,

some of these movements you deride are as old as or older than you, and all of them have been mutually beneficial.

the “disingenuous and sickening” position is yours, unfortunately. i don’t have the resources to help you through this but i hope you can start to learn from this conversation.

JimmyBigSausage,

I hope you can learn from someone also.

Passerby6497,

Vastly more people care about the article more than your uninformed opinion that contradicts reality

Strawberry,

solidarity? what’s that?

Zorsith,
@Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
fiercekitten,

Goddamnit Patrick, transgender is not a noun.

TGhost,
@TGhost@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, we are,

trevor,

I got mine. Fuck you.

JimmyBigSausage,

Actually, we did get ours and it was a hell of a lot of work. Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights…just getting started. If that means fuck you because I don’t equate a war between Israel and Palestine as the same thing, then yes, “fuck you, Trevor”.

trevor, (edited )

war between Israel and Palestine

Not a war. It’s a genocide, and it’s Israel that is perpetrating it.

Surviving the AIDS crisis, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, “conduct unbecoming” in the military, strung up on fence posts in Wyoming, public arrests, family disenfranchisement, discrimination in housing, marriage, legal rights…just getting started

Cool. And you’ll get absolutely nowhere with reactionary sentiment like “fuck you, I got mine” as a part of your movement. The people that want to allow the genocide to continue are the same people actively working to take those rights away from LGBTQ+ people, and they’re not gonna let up just because reactionary twats like you think it’s okay. Not to mention the fact that the rest of the LGBTQ+ community doesn’t even have all of the rights you mentioned, but that’s none of your concern, I’m sure.

The fact is that rights movements and struggles for social justice will continue to largely ignore backward sentiment like yours, as it is necessary for the progress of all of the groups that struggle for them and your attitude toward people other than yourself would only lead to an erosion of those rights.

Wahots, in All 64 of the countries where it’s illegal to be LGBTQ+ – and yes, it’s all colonialism’s fault
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

Palestine: Same-sex sexual activity is technically illegal in Gaza. The provision was introduced by Britain during its mandate over Palestine, although there’s little evidence that the law is enforced today.

No, it is still not safe if you are queer. They tortured and executed a Hamas commander via firing squad for being suspected of being gay.

lgbtqnation.com/…/hamas-commander-accused-of-gay-…

cupcakezealot, in All 64 of the countries where it’s illegal to be LGBTQ+ – and yes, it’s all colonialism’s fault
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

uk, australia, and the us definitely need to be on the list

Instigate,

Queer Australian checking in here.

…what? Have you ever lived here or know what our laws are?

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

theres also a growing terf and neo nazi culture war brewing, similar to the uk, which the liberals are trying to exploit… im just saying its something to watch like canada

Instigate,

There will always be loonies who hate us for being who we are. We shafted the last one we had from our federal government at the last election. We have no laws that cause discrimination towards my comrades and to try to pretend like a few crazies are somehow making being queer illegal is just disingenuous. Please speak to your own context, because you don’t speak for mine.

Colour_me_triggered, in All 64 of the countries where it’s illegal to be LGBTQ+ – and yes, it’s all colonialism’s fault

Cool, now let’s see a map of countries where the majority religion is islam. I fully expect to be down voted to hell but fuck it. India was Britain’s favourite colony and it’s clear. All of North and South America was colonised and it’s clear, as are Australia and new Zealand. Not to mention all the countries that colonised them.

Yes colonisation was particularly terrible and has a great deal to answer for, but that doesn’t explain the laws today. If you think that ex colonies aren’t capable of changing, then you are a racist, plain and simple.

Religion is the problem and it always has been. Some religions are worse than others. The abrahamic religions are particularly bad. Of those islam is by far the most draconian. Seriously pull up the map.

good_girl, (edited )
@good_girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

We get it you love doing an islamophobia and will jump at any opportunity to hate on it.

This isn’t about islam right now bud, the topic’s colonialism.

Belastend,

The topic is persecution of LGBTQ+ folk and unless we wanna exclude the majority of countries from that list, we should talk about Islamic Regimes.

Because surprise, surprise, a patriachical authoritarian religion will come down hard on dissenters :)

good_girl,
@good_girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

The topic is persecution of LGBTQ+ folk …where it’s the result of colonialism.

There’s not a soul that will deny the homophobia present in islamic states, but that’s not the point of this article. You people just can’t help yourself.

Instigate,

The point of the article is trying to explain the persistence of anti LGBTQIA+ legislation in the world. This is discussing an alternative (or in scientific terms, confounding variable) that challenges the absolute notions laid out in the article. I have no stake in this argument and am making no points against the British Empire or the Muslim religion, but to state that this discussion isn’t relevant to the article is frankly disingenuous.

As a bisexual man of historical UK origin, I can see and understand both impacts simultaneously. I also think we can discuss all forms of queerphobia simultaneously, and that it does a disservice to all my LGBTQIA+ comrades to dissent genuine discussion over the impacts of both colonialism and religion on the presence of queerphobia just because that’s not the specific angle of this specific article.

Belastend,

The tjing you quoted sure as hell isnt the title of it. The main argument of the article is “Its all colonialism’s fault” and people pointing put that its not. Like yeah, you people, because anyone who critizes the treatment of minorities in Islamic States must be Islamophobic, just like anyone who critizises Isreal must be an Antisemite lol.

Frogodendron,

I thought the topic was the hate of LGBTQ+, and right now it’s Islam that’s acting with said hate most of all. British colonialism, and homophobia for that matter, ended (to a larger extent, at least) a while ago, and you can’t actively blame dead people for it (well, you can, but they aren’t going to fix anything, and you won’t solve anything by blaming them), while Islam is remaining anti-LGBTQ+ right in this very moment. Isn’t it more productive to oppose whatever’s present right now?

ondoyant,
@ondoyant@beehaw.org avatar

British colonialism, and homophobia for that matter, ended (to a larger extent, at least) a while ago

lol. lmao, even. British homophobia has not ended. Britain is a modern hotbed for anti-queer bullshit. the consequences and effects of British colonial rule have not magically been wiped clean. we aren’t “blaming dead people”, we’re talking about the impact that colonial and imperial oppression had on the cultures of oppressed peoples. the structure and politics of the British Empire are inextricably linked to the world we live in today, and attributing modern queerphobia to the oppressive and cruel politics of the one of the largest imperial powers the world has ever seen, who directly imposed anti-queer laws onto the people they oppressed, is not about “fixing” things. its about recognizing how the past has shaped our present.

its funny, i think, how willing Islamophobes are to bring up the present anti-queer stances of religious nation-states as reflecting upon the religion of Islam itself, with all its 2 billion adherents spread over every continent and nation in the world, while failing to recognize the role of the Christian church in both the historical and modern anti-queerness of the British empire and the modern european state. somehow, you see clearly the monstrous power of religious authority in one hand, and dismiss it in the other. you propose anti-queerness as an essential quality of Islam, and seperate it from the essential qualities of european nation-states.

somehow, Muslim homophobia is special in its qualities, rather than a modern trait that arose in the same period of the 19th century under which the Christian hegemony was exported throughout the world by the British empire and its contemporaries. somehow, it is always the case that the religion that is foreign to you is the true danger, what should be the focus of our attention.

it is important to “oppose” whatever’s present now. but Islamophobes diagnosis for whats “present now” so often fails to acknowledge the immense influence and power that european religious institutions have had and continue to have over the anti-queer policy of their former colonial projects (like Uganda, for example), and their prescription for what “opposition” looks like happens to look a lot like religious and racial discrimination. funny how that works. singling out Islam as the true danger to queer people does nothing to help queer people. in fact, the mechanism by which Islamophobes identify a whole fourth of the world’s population as uniquely dangerous, violent, and backwards is exactly the same mechanism by which queer people are identified as perverse, deviant, and predatory. prejudice.

the acronym LGBTQ+ arose out of solidarity. people with different experiences, extremely different in some cases, coming together because they recognized that their struggle was alike. that they were together subjected to the violence of prejudice and discrimination, and that they were stronger together than alone. that is what needs opposing in the modern day. the violence of states. the violence of hegemony, dictating to us what we ought to be and what we cannot be, wherever it is found. not a diverse religious tradition that contains the same number of queer people as any other population of humans.

Instigate,

British colonialism spread queerphobia. Islamic-governed nations currently push queerphobia. Both are bad, both are regressive, and both have lasting impacts on us today. We can talk about both being bad at once. We can walk and chew gum. We can discuss all of the impacts on queerphobia simultaneously, if we allow ourselves to understand that all issues of humanity are multi-faceted and that blaming a single concept or source for an issue is usually farcical.

Frogodendron,

See, I am of position that in developing countries British colonialism (or whatever you prefer to call it it) right now seems to push pro-queer rhetoric, at least that was my experience. And I can’t accept opposing statements “Britain pushes homophobia” and “Britain pushes LGBTQ+ people acceptance”; at least if there is something of the former, the latter has larger effect it seems.

Frogodendron,

Thank you for a well-written response. I think I am just starting from the different position, having experienced more positive effects from English influence than negative ones, in my country at least.

My experience on social media mostly skewed my view towards “anyone can say anything, and it looks like there’s a lot of hateful things people want to say” for Britain or any other democratic country. As a result, I see the anti-queer sentiment, but know from what I see daily in real life it could be much worse.

In my experience, the Christian (well, orthodox for that matter) church is right now very reluctant to accept LGBTQ+ people, with state-wide position being non-tolerant, and individual priests being accepting, if you are lucky. This is wrong. This must be better. The same, I think, can be said about Catholic Church, yet I didn’t have direct experience with that. Still, it’s better (again, for my region) than Muslim-majority regions being in a murderous position about the same group of people. It’s a lousy choice, but still, in a choice between “you are a disgusting sinner” and “you don’t deserve to exist, and your own family will murder you” the latter looks much worse.

Maybe I am not opposing Islam per se, maybe I just think that Islam is inextricably linked with “non-secular form of governance”, and that alone is enough for me to condemn such states more than any form of British influence.

doubtingtammy,

British colonialism, and homophobia for that matter, ended (to a larger extent, at least) a while ago

LMAO. Anglo colonialism continues to this day. Oil companies, NGOs and missionaries all do their part to spread Anglo dominance in yhe developing world

As for British homophobia having “ended”, wtf are you talking about. Look up the very recent history of section 28. Look up the cass report. While most Brits are lovely, trans people like to call it TERF island for a reason.

Cube6392,
@Cube6392@beehaw.org avatar

Where are you living that British Colonialism and Homophobia are over?

Frogodendron,

In Russia. I think it’s the perspective that matters but I’d take British colonialism any day over the genocidal shitshow we have here, even putting Ukraine aside and focusing on LGBTQ+ for the sake of the argument. In comparison, the homophobia in the UK/US, while problematic, is relatively tame, e.g., it does not call all the LGBTQ+ people terrorists and extremists as official government rhetoric. And as for pre-2022, number 1 rule for an LGBTQ+ person living in an Islamic regionin Russia would be “don’t you even try to suggest that you are queer if you want to live”.

I kind of get the grievances towards the British colonialism and homophobia of the past (which incidentally gets a lot of whataboutism from some Russians I know: “What about Alan Turing! What about India!”), but for the present the British/American media is THE BEST thing that has happened in Russia to stop vilifying and demonizing LGBTQ+, and I just can’t wrap my head around the reverse situation.

Cube6392,
@Cube6392@beehaw.org avatar

Gotcha. Yeah. I would definitely consider Russian imperialism very evil and engrained with the systems of power governing the country. I hope for your sake, and for all of your brethren, that someday everyone under the historic influence of an imperial power can someday be free

ondoyant,
@ondoyant@beehaw.org avatar

India was Britain’s favourite colony and it’s clear. All of North and South America was colonised and it’s clear, as are Australia and new Zealand. Not to mention all the countries that colonised them.

when did these countries become “clear”? do you know? it wasn’t a billion years ago, lemme tell you that, and it isn’t all sunshine and roses in the modern day. as it happens, there are quite a few queer people from all the places you’ve mentioned who would probably disagree with this perspective, myself included. queer rights and queer liberation is an ongoing process in all the places you’ve mentioned. we’ve not reached some post-homophobic utopia by any means.

If you think that ex colonies aren’t capable of changing, then you are a racist, plain and simple.

right. so you don’t want people to think about the ways that colonialism impacts the cultures of the colonized people (that’s racist, apparently), and just straight up deny the fact that a great deal of these laws are, as written, directly sourced from British colonial law codes, to support your particular interpretation of Islamic depravity. many of the states on the list are majority christian, especially the ones in Africa, but its whatever. don’t let nuance get in the way of your Islamophobia.

Religion is the problem and it always has been. Some religions are worse than others. The abrahamic religions are particularly bad. Of those islam is by far the most draconian. Seriously pull up the map.

yeah, right, a single image of a map “proves” your extremely common right wing opinion beyond refutation. and the whole “religion is the problem” bullshit. as if the ills of the human condition can be reduced to a single solitary source. i get it, you like Sam Harris (or maybe Richard Dawkins, considering your spelling). you’re an Atheist. but the world is more complicated than that, and injecting your own biases about people that aren’t like you does nothing for nobody. religion didn’t happen in a vacuum. it’s not some outside force that warps us into a state of conflict and subjugation. religion is just culture, power, and hegemony. it was made by humanity’s stupid monkey brains, and is shaped around the biases inherent to our cognition. we’d find a way to hate each other without it.

the world won’t automatically be better by its absence, and rhetoric pushing Islam as somehow quantitatively worse than others is just fuckin’ bigotry. that’s why people give you shit about this. you aren’t some free thinker by thinking Muslims are icky, you’re just reproducing dominant cultural narratives about the backwardness of people you don’t know, narratives built by Christian nations to justify conflict and conquest, just as modern Muslim nations have identified themselves in contrast to secularized formerly Christian nations.

in short, learn more about the world, and stop relying on the baked in biases we all inherit from our culture to decide which quarter of the world population has the bad evil religion. its not a good look.

doubtingtammy,

colour_me_triggered

You sound insufferable

Colour_me_triggered,

I fisted your dad.

lolrightythen,

Hey dude! How’s your dad?

Pm_me_girl_dick,

Highly upvoted and removed by mod? Must have been a doozy!

3volver,

Why was this removed by mod?

Shyfer,

Well, there’s a difference between settler colonialism (which replaces the indigenous population) and the sort of imperialist and classic colonialism in a lot of parts of this map, where people move in and resources are extracted, but you’re left with a traumatized population instead of a genocided one, like in North and South America as well as Australia, so we’d expect the results to probably be different.

Not that I think religion helps these matters, as the US which is slowly turning Christo-fascist and reversing LGBTQ rights, probably not coincidentally, shows. I just don’t agree with the Islamophobia part. Christianity looks pretty draconian on these issues too in some parts of Africa.

BottleOfAlkahest, in All 64 of the countries where it’s illegal to be LGBTQ+ – and yes, it’s all colonialism’s fault

Is it not illegal in Russia?

Colour_me_triggered,

Technically it’s participating in pride events and displaying symbolism that’s illegal, but in practice yes, pretty much.

Jrockwar,
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