Stop sending them bombs right now, and withhold money until they can prove they’ve stopped murdering civilians. This is an easy solution, it’s such a low bar, yet Biden is unable to clear it.
If I were to turn on my Machiavellian reptile brain and looked at this situation (from what I’ve read) as if this was a game or something…
Israel is kinda like The West’s attack/guard dog in the Middle East. That dog is getting out of control. The only leash that The West has on Israel is their funding, remove the funding and they remove the leash, and now we’ve got an out of control dog with nukes and no leash. It may not seem like the leash isn’t doing much to control it but it’s far better than letting the dog loose. Especially considering how powerful the dog is, how it seems to have more control over The West than the other way around, might have to do with all the religious leadership on both sides looking forward to the red cow they’re sacrificing this month, maybe their prophecy of a “second coming” and (nuclear) fire raining from the sky to end humanity is kinda the point.
I’m going to stop the reptile brain before it mentions how we typically deal with bad dogs that can’t be tamed, because god forbid THAT’S taking things too far.
Trump pardoned literal war criminals, sold weapons to Israel too, and forced through a sale of weapons to Saudis too. You’re acting as if the world is black and white, with no scales
This really shouldn’t be surprising. The man has signalled and announced his desire to shoot first and ask questions later at the slightest provocation. He’s also very vocally pro-Israel. Anybody crowing about “Genocide Joe” is a bad actor intentionally trying to confuse the discourse with bullshit noise. There is no ethical vote except for Biden. Every single US president has been pro-Israel, so just drop that argument and start focussing on how to materially improve living conditions of actual Americans.
Can we be at least a little nicer about the point you’re making? Poor form to assume bad faith when anyone with a heart wants Biden doing more. The problem is that Israel is deliberately forcing Biden to eat shit on this issue because guess what, Bibi has every reason to prefer Trump in 2024.
Using the phrase ’ “genocide” claimers’ immediately discredits the discussion as a valid one. People dying everyday under the pretense of being Palestinian is not something to minimize. Naivete is not realizing the true devastation going on over there and the actions of Biden haven’t done much to stop and reverse that. We, as a country, are funding that and its difficult for those against this battle to come to terms with the lack of power we have. We need to hold our politicians accountable. I fully agree Trump is a giant POS and wouldn’t be a good alternative. The thing you have to be able to meet others with though is that Biden didn’t come through for us even when we, in mass, told him he’s wrong. Thats costly and him relying on indestructibility is going to likely show in the polls. Have a genuine conversation if you really want to sway votes
It’s a serious problem with leaders this old, they think they know better than us. At a time of change in history, elders aren’t necessarily the best guides.
That dude, zerog_bandit, has repeatedly done genocide denial and justification.
I think most US voters on here know that Trump will be significantly worse than Biden on Israel. Both candidates are pro-genocide, but at least Biden and Dems can be pressured to change. Not to mention that Trump wants to ramp up domestic fascism too.
Unfortunately there are more nefarious forces that intend to sow defeatism and apathy. I had one such buffoon tell me they’re voting 3rd party. Don’t fall for this garbage.
Both Biden and Trump are motivated by the aipac money. Period. Don’t fool yourself.
You can’t shame the younger voters into voting for Biden. They don’t care what Hillary Clinton thinks and they are tired of being lied too by corporate donors, I mean corporate politicians.
You can’t shame the younger voters into voting for Biden. They don’t care what Hillary Clinton thinks and they are tired of being lied too by corporate donors, I mean corporate politicians.
Your original point was categorically NOT “the lesser of two evils”.
How about understanding that there are only 2 candidates? You either support one with your vote, or you support the other with your apathetic attitude and myopic perspective on politics.
It’s wild that people think they have more ability to change the minds of millions of disconnected voters than the one guy who wants their votes and whose job it is to respond to public sentiment.
Forget which side you think is wronger in their thinking. Trying to individually argue voters into compliance is pushing against the ocean.
On any scale. Changing one mind who you know how to contact, even if they might ignore you, is easier than changing (or even contacting) millions. This idea that you’re all going to get together and yell at all the “bad” voters that are upset over a US funded genocide in election-meaningful numbers is pure nonsense. And that’s ignoring that yelling at people to support your team generally doesn’t work.
True, just a professional fascist swamp dweller for the last decade plus change:
Before 2014, Griffin wrote articles for her father’s far-right website WorldNetDaily, where she served as a "special Washington correspondent for WND."[7][6] In 2010, Griffin was a media intern for Congressman Tom McClintock and began a one-year position as an associate producer on The Laura Ingraham Show.[11] In the 2012 Presidential election cycle, Griffin was the spokesperson for the College Republican National Committee, traveling the country discussing the youth vote. In 2014, she was named Press Secretary for Congressman Mark Meadows; she was later named as his Communications Director. She went on to work as the Communications Director for the Freedom Caucus in the U.S. House of Representatives, serving under Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows.[12]
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