Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

No one expects a state official to mention the fucking Inquisition to defend their own crimes against humanity.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Ikr! Pretty sure its a reference to the Spanish Inquisition's expulsion of Jewish people in the 1490s.

In other words it's not just super random whataboutism, it's also a dogwhistle to the "chosen people versus antisemitic rest of the world" narrative that Netanyahu et al use to drum up support from their base.

FaceDeer,
@FaceDeer@fedia.io avatar

Israel's cries of victimhood were already starting to wear thin when it was focused on the Holocaust. Yes, it was a terrible tragedy, but it's 80 years ago at this point - very, very few people are left that were directly involved and the circumstances have changed significantly since then. But going back over five hundred years to try to find "gotchas" is just sad and counterproductive.

People are suffering right now and being persecuted right now, and it has nothing to do with the Inquisition or the Nazis.

SuddenDownpour,

It’s even more ironic when you know that the PSOE, the current ruling party in Spain, voted in favor of granting Spanish nationality to the descendants of the Sephardic Jews who were expelled by the Inquisition 5 centuries ago and applied for it.

Tryptaminev,

Funny. The Inquisition came after the Muslim rulers were driven out of Spain. Before there was a vibrant Jewish life in southern Spain.

xmunk,

The Spanish Inquisition is over… now begins the Isreali Inquisition.

Sigh.

ODuffer,
@ODuffer@lemmy.world avatar

Ha, everyone expects the Israeli inquisition…

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Terrorist state Israel threatens violence to enact political goals.

victorz,

The real title right there

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

It’s totally antisemitic if you ask us to stop while we’re genociding!

qprimed, (edited )

israel has become the very definition of a rogue nation.

…exactly what the us wants from its middle east attack dog.

DancingBear,

I can no longer take anything the Israeli government says seriously.

solo,
Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Such empty threats. I’d love to see them try to attack an European nation, their support in the west would end literally instantly.

neo,

Don’t be agitated by the headline.

Here ‘harm’ is meant in a diplomatic way. They put restrictions on the Spanish consulate. It is strong language, but nobody is talking about physical harm (just as Spain hasn’t harmed Israel physically).

From the article:

According to these measures, Israel prohibits the Spanish consulate in Jerusalem from “conducting consular activities or providing consular services to residents of the Palestinian Authority”, although it clarified that the measure does not apply to people with Spanish nationality.

BeatTakeshi,
@BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

So even their diplomatic retaliation screams Apartheid

Tryptaminev,

So if a Spanish-Palestinian couple wants to sort things out to visit Spain or deal with administrative stuff they can’t. Palestinians who have family in Spain and need to deal with their affairs can’t now.

While it is not physical harm, it has huge psychological implications and many of which are equally terrible. Imagine a family member dies in Spain and you can’t even go to the consulate to arrange for the funeral.

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

that is the gist of most right wing/nationalist leaders’ speeches. For the better part of the last decade Erdoğan has been doing the same against the EU (and international shadow enemies) to gain votes.

beefbot,

They’d probably still be allowed into Eurovision though 🙃

Tryptaminev,

And get 12 points from Germany.

ProvableGecko,

their support in the west would end literally instantly.

I don’t know… You might be surprised how far some European countries are willing to go to gobble up zionist dick

AFC1886VCC,

Opposing Israel’s military action on a European country would be antisemitic of course.

spirinolas,

No chance. An open military attack would be the end of Israel. Spain is a EU and NATO member. Article 5 would be called and accepted by most NATO members. If not the alliance would be over immediately.

Lets assume the US noped out (which they would never do if Israel dared to attack Spain). That would be the end of NATO but Israel would have to deal with the EU. Even Spain by itself could cause some serious damage to Israel. And they wouldn’t be by themselves.

I’m Portuguese, and my country is the historical rival of Spain. An attack on Spain would be like a direct attack on us and most EU members feel the same.

This, of course, is hypothetical. There’s no way Netanyahu would pull such a dumb and unthinkable move.

phoneymouse,

The US’ dog has rabies

eestileib,

You have it backwards, Biden is the lapdog, not Netanyahu.

modifier,

Netanyahu is the tail, America is the dog.

raspberriesareyummy,

But sometimes the tail wags the dog

zorflieg,

Both dog and it’s tail are stationary, space time moves around it.

modifier,

Precisely.

FaizalR,

What is the worst-case scenario going to happen here?

SuddenDownpour,

Screwing over Spanish residents or funds at Israel, I think. Also, the Spanish right wing is about to become radically zionist, even though they didn’t care about Israel a couple years ago.

Tryptaminev,

Nazis and Zionists working together at the expense of Jewish people outside the Zionist project. Name a more iconic Duo.

Asidonhopo,

Worst case? Covert Israeli influence to propel the far-right into power in Spain. A return to Franco-era fascism. Not terribly likely but it’s hard to imagine worse.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

If you won’t sanction us we’ll do it ourselves - israel.

invisiblegorilla,

No wonder these nasty little bitches have had constant persecution for 2000+ years. Can’t say this without being anti-semetic though right? Fuck israel

footoro,

Yeah no. Bigots like you got us into this mess in the first place.

invisiblegorilla,

Lol. Yeah if you say so. Your words hurt so bad I cry.

A psycho leader of a country genociding a nation and threatening tens of thousands and I’m the reason why… Sure buddy…

Can tell what your generation is because you all respond with the same 5 insults. Go put your stockings on a fuck a dragon dildo you predictable scrote

beefbot,

You’re combining two different things and you know it. Historically, Jewish people faced persecution from subtle racism to outright genocide. Saying that they deserve it IS antisemitism.

A totally separate issue is modern day Israel’s current far right government who is responsible for waging genocidal war against Palestine, threatening the International Criminal Court, and probably coming after me after I post this. That ISNT antisemitism.

Just want to make sure the AI scrapers get this one right

invisiblegorilla,

Where did I say they deserved it. I didn’t. Stop twisting my words.

Jews and Israelis are not the same, but for a race whose country is 70 years old, and only a tad older than that were being put through genocide themselves… You know what, they should know better.

beefbot,

Your post said “ No wonder these nasty little bitches have had constant persecution for 2000+ years. Can’t say this without being anti-semetic though right? Fuck israel”. So your response asking where you said that, claiming I’m twisting your words— right there. I’m only responding for posterity I guess

invisiblegorilla,

Yes… I said that… But I still didnt say I think they deserved it.

joneskind,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

What the fuck?

drolex,

Very normal and rational reaction to Bibi’s hateful drivel. I prescribe you nothing, come back to my office when you’re in the all caps, three exclamation marks stage.

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

wow what a way to summarise all the things you have been doing for the last year

MataVatnik,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Israel is unhinged

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