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TheBat, to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Extremist gamers as in? Playing Call of Duty while strapped to an aeroplane wing?

starman2112,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lmao getting a 360 noscope while base jumping from the Burj Khalifa

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

The people who say the n word through their mics

state_electrician,

Extreme =/= Extremist

EssentialNPC,

Those would be X-tremeists. It’s an easy mistake to make.

RightHandOfIkaros, (edited ) to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers

This article quotes Hasan Piker and thats all I needed to see to know everything I need to know about this article. Nobody should be quoting that guy as the authority on anything except for having the evident need to continually hear his own voice, and having some of the most hypocritical, worst takes I have ever heard in my life.

candid,

What makes you view Hasan so negatively?

Outtatime,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hasan is a grifting fool who promotes socialism and communism and takes people’s donations but is already rich. His takes are complete garbage.

gila,

Because socialism is when you’re poor

candid, (edited )

Yeah I honestly expected more nuanced takes from decentralized Reddit but I guess I expected too much. Nobody has provided any examples of his “bad takes” except that he makes money off his work, as he fucking should. So I’ll just move on with my day. Been watching the guy on and off for years, haven’t donated to him once so not sure where I’m being grifted lmao.

Also is this place being brigaded by incels/right wingers? Some of the comments on this post are concerning.

Edit: nice username and profile pic, I’m a big fan of King Gizzard myself, Infest The Rat’s Nest gets a spin weekly!!!

gila,

This place has a lot of lib/leftist infighting, it’s generally the most left social network in my experience though

gila,

He’s grifting them into not listening when he says “I’m a socialist propagandist”, I guess

gila,

Hasan was quoted by this article because he was notably outspoken about the original gamergate, had the correct take on it, and the current trend is literally just an attempt at relitigating those same issues.

Here’s an exercise for you: can you name a single person on the planet that would more appropriate to quote on this issue than Hasan, and why?

Even if I accept and agree with the position in your comment, there isn’t.

Gullible,

Anita Sarkeesian. Ja Rule might also have some deep personal insight into the video game bigotry pipeline. He’s a face and personality I respect.

gila,

I think in your rush to namedrop someone else involved you maybe neglected to consider whether that’s actually the case. Anita went into hiding and gamers don’t know who she is anymore

Gullible,

I get the not so vague feeling of contrarianism and I honestly dig it. Lemmy’s inability to keep sticks away from posteriors is exhausting.

gila, (edited )

Hasan was the biggest driving force behind anti-gamergate sentiment originally and that deserves to not be disrespected in the comments because of some unrelated gripe you have with him that is founded on a logical farce, that’s it

Gullible,

I’m not the person you originally responded to so hold your assumptions. The journalist who still actively works in this specific field a decade later, after becoming the subject of its ire is an objectively better choice. Don’t blame me for having the capacity to answer your question.

gila,

Sorry for assuming, I’d encourage you to check Anita’s own opinion about speaking on gamergate though. She doesn’t want to.

Gullible,

Wait, what? I was at an event where she spoke about it and she seemed comfortable enough speaking about it in that context. I guess feelings can change over the years, my mistake. Sincerely.

gila,

For sure, she is still a media critic in public (following intially going into hiding), and has talked about it numerous times. Her historic stance hasn’t really changed though, I’d imagine at a certain point you’d just want to move on to something else, in her case to pivot toward speaking on female empowerment etc indirectly related topics. Pretty sure she’s not done any gaming-specific media work for a number of years now.

I was wrong to make the proposed exercise such a zero-sum game though, I just mean to highlight how ridiculous the opposing position (that any article quoting Hasan for any reason is auto trash) is, in this particular case.

Linkerbaan, (edited )
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

People can choose to not donate to him. Also he does plenty of fundraisers.

Grifting is a strong word for someone that is very well educated and doesn’t just pick the mainstream position in every subject because it’s easy.

The man does good work let him earn some money from it.

neidu2, to politics in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers

I remember feeling like a webdesign master when I figured out frames. I was always more of a backend guy (perl + CGI = ❤️), but frames enabled me to produce pretty decent looking websites.no

Carrolade,

I’m afraid that’s not a very strong legal defense.

vaultdweller013,

Its not a legal defense, its a warning. We all like our fingers, be a shame is some of us lost em.

Carrolade,

Warning of what? Gamergate-types not supporting Biden?

vaultdweller013,

Not necessarily gamer gate types, I dont trust the FBI to keep it to just them. Wouldnt put it past em to go after anarchists for example. But if they can keep it to gamer gate types they can keep their fingers.

xor, (edited ) to privacy in Signal’s New Usernames Help Keep the Cops Out of Your Data

still waiting for this to roll out on ios…
edit: nevermind, it updated

James_Ryan,
@James_Ryan@feddit.de avatar

I have this for some time now on iOS

xor,

you have the beta?
the beta is closed now…

James_Ryan, (edited )
@James_Ryan@feddit.de avatar

I dont. I got it via normal update. The 7.1 has been installed recently on my iPhone

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/29dd46be-46af-42e3-9c61-637beadf5006.jpeg

xor,

hmm… well shit, i swear i tried to update it before…
but i did just update it to 7 just now… thanks

Freuks, to privacy in Signal’s New Usernames Help Keep the Cops Out of Your Data
@Freuks@lemmy.ml avatar

Articles contains 1894 words, hmm 😏

electricprism, to privacy in Signal’s New Usernames Help Keep the Cops Out of Your Data

It would be better if it was randomly generated, I’m looking at you CoralApples216

akilou,

Why would it be better?

rdyoung, (edited )

Probably because some people tend to pick user names that identify them in some way. Take me for example, I have a few names I go by but this username is definitely helpful in identifying me. I use it on the other place, a couple of emails, discord, telegram, etc. I don’t feel the need to be as anon as possible (no shade on those who do) so I main this one. I have a few others that I have been known to use and those are mainly for things that I don’t want easily connected back to me.

akilou,

You shouldn’t be forced to be anonymous. If you want to pick the same username, you should be able to. But even so, there’s still a required number at the end. So unless your username elsewhere ends in 2 digits and isn’t already taken, then you can’t pick it anyway

rdyoung, (edited )

It’s not about forcing anyone to be anonymous. I’m not OP here but I kind of agree. Maybe signal should default to a randomized one with a blurb about safety, anonymity, etc but let you create your own if you want.

Again. My personal view isn’t to force random usernames on people but to maybe educate them on this stuff. Also, there are legit reasons why you should have non identifying usernames even if it’s not how the world should work. There are enough nutters out there who may recognize something in someones name that links them to someone they know offline and people are nucking futz. I can tell you stories I’ve heard from my clients that you would believe but don’t want to.

Oh and for the numbers, that can be even more identifying because people tend to use numbers that mean something to them. I have a variation on this name that includes my birth year in 2 digits. If I was posting things online that close family might have a problem with, it wouldn’t be hard to do to the math and identify me that way.

otter,

The best compromise might be similar to how it works currently

Right now you enter your username, and then a number is randomly generated but you can change it manually.

Randomly generate both, and allow the user to change both

olicvb,
@olicvb@lemmy.ca avatar

guessing it would mean that people wont be using the same username as they do on every other account. So if doodlebop69 can’t be traced from signal they could go to google and find the same doodlebop69 to grab their information from

akilou,

But doodlebug69 needs to accept a message from you before you can see their profile info.

Baguette,

They have the username already, they don’t need to see their profile info to search for a username

ryannathans,

Doesn’t really matter with them being non unique. Multiple people can have the same username, there’s a randomly generated number that goes with it

Wogi,

Let’s make a compact to all use “guillotinetherich”

ryannathans,

A pact maybe?

LemmyKnowsBest,

maybe Wogi wants to check his makeup in the mirror while he’s out at guillotine-the-rich rallies.

pedroapero,

It generated a suffix of two digits when I tried (you can set it explicitely but it is mandatory).

LemmyKnowsBest,

I kept having to randomly scramble it until it gave me a number I liked.

rar,

I can be your Guest1234 anytime you want ;)

jordanlund, to politics in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
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Roblox? Are there that many radicalized 8 year olds?

Diplomjodler,

Gotta catch them early if you want to have nice obedient corporate drones.

Plague_Doctor,

Robocop?

TragicNotCute,
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

Have you met many 8 year olds? They are all fucking radicals. I’d say at least half are terrorists.

Diplomjodler,

Letting them out from the mines was a mistake

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Can't even fit their plump little bodies down chimneys anymore.

cmbabul,

That’s a preexisting condition though, 8 year olds have always been menaces to the rest of us

Semi-Hemi-Demigod, to politics in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

An internal FBI threat advisory obtained by The Intercept defines Anarchist Violent Extremists as individuals “who consider capitalism and centralized government to be unnecessary and oppressive,” and “oppose economic globalization; political, economic, and social hierarchies based on class, religion, race, gender, or private ownership of capital; and external forms of authority represented by centralized government, the military, and law enforcement.”

Guess I’m on another list because I agree with all of that.

BossDj, (edited )

The result of none of that is the same as anarchy, violence, nor extremism

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Anarchy has stood for those things since its inception.

Who taught you that it means violence and lawlessness? Maybe they have an agenda?

BossDj,

I don’t know what you’re trying to say.

I said the FBI definition of “violent anarchist extremists” doesn’t properly define violent, anarchist, or extremists.

Viking_Hippie,

And Semi-Hemi-Demigod is trying to explain to you that, while you’re of course right that none of those things are symptoms of violent extremism, a lot of them are aspects of peaceful anti-authoritarian political beliefs such as those of anarchism.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for the assist

Viking_Hippie,

No worries 🙂

BossDj,

But I never said it was about violence and lawlessness

xmunk,

Are they honestly okay with putting “Social hierarchies based on […] race or gender” in writing?

alilbee,

I would read this as "Of the types of violent extremists, the ‘Anarchist’ type are those who… ". As a really dumb metaphor, if I have a pokedex, I don’t need to restate that they’re all Pokémon in there each time.

nickwitha_k,

I’m not sure that your interpretation gels with the FBI’s historical behavior. The organization literally tried to get MLK Jr. to kill himself.

alilbee,

Not arguing that the FBI hasn’t suppressed completely valid movements in the past, because that’s well-documented for anyone to see. I just think that if I was a professional writing a handbook in this situation, I wouldn’t go to the trouble of redefining the context each time either. Because of that, I’m not sure that this is demonstrative of their stance.

Linkerbaan, to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar
simple,

They targeted GAMERS.

Wodge,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

BOTTOM TEXT

GBU_28,

WE

mods_are_assholes,

I hate everything in this subthread

GBU_28,

Ok

assassin_aragorn,

GAMERS

njm1314, to politics in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers

Surely this will be an article about the FBI finally cutting down on Nazis and right-wing extremists in The Gaming Community right? Right? Oh…

thebardingreen, to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
@thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz avatar

Scratch under the surface of this, you find angry, noisy white boys who think the woke and feminism are coming for them…

Blizzard,

Why so racist?

PerogiBoi,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

That’s a good question we should ask these white boys.

lolcatnip,

White supremacists trend to be white for some reason.

Outtatime,
@Outtatime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oooo! So scary! Angry white boys… hahahahaha!! You can’t be serious

jaemo,

Careful! You’re gonna rustle their jimmies… Oops looks like ya did, all these howler monkey replies lol.

CharlesDarwin, to politics in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

Huh, I wonder how much they’ll focus on the right wing aspect of that. Or are they both-sidesing the animal activists, giving that equal weight to alt-right fascists?

Ensign_Crab,

Huh, I wonder how much they’ll focus on the right wing aspect of that.

Just enough to say they did and no more.

hal_5700X, to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Go away, glowies.

bazus1, to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers

First they came for extremist gamers and I did nothing because… fuck those guys.

gila, to games in The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers

Just to add context because this is a somewhat polarising headline, gamergate shit is back on the rise. Gamers generally aren’t being considered potential extremists, only literal extremists that happen to consider their opinions as representative of gamers

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