will_steal_your_username,

“Why are you trying to do [x]? Have you tried doing [y] instead?”

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

“You shouldn’t do [y] either, you idiot, you absolute fucking buffoon. You should instead do [z, which costs a fortune and/or requires you to restructure your entire life]”

TheFriendlyDickhead,

But it will be slighly more efficient

BirdyBoogleBop,

Thread closed [x] already answered please go to link: completly unrelated topic actually about [a]

rtxn,

And the link points to a solution from 2006 using a method that’s been outdated and unsupported for a decade.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

somebody replies to it “Here’s everything going wrong with [x]”

caseyweederman,

“Just install Linux”

mindbleach,

“But why do you want that?” should be an automatic time-out on most Q&A sites. Especially anything technical.

I don’t need to convince you to make my decisions.

rumschlumpel, (edited )

A lot of the time, the fundamental issue is the lack of information provided by the poster. I’ve seen so many threads where the provided information just isn’t enough, and they don’t react to any of the questions at all.

ceiphas,

Here is a comprehensive Guide how to do [x]:

{20 paragraphs of Background Story}

[x] is Impossible to do, you dumbfuck

brisk,

Oh god you reminded me of this gem

serverfault.com/…/how-to-cache-contents-in-haprox…

Someone asks how to do http caching in HAproxy.

The one answer:

don’t use the wrong tool

haproxy is a wonderful tool. It does not provide caching. A quick scan of the fine docs can verify this. Unless you want to patch haproxy you need to use a tool that does what you’re looking to do.

don’t create impossible problems

By asking for haproxy to do something that it doesn’t and excluding the tool that seems to do what you want to do you’ve create an impossible situation. There is no technical solution for this. Don’t make choices that box you into a corner.

try varnish or anything that actually caches

If you get over that you might find this tutorial on using varnish with haproxy useful or try varnish by itself. Maybe squid or memcached would be more your speed.

In the comments to this ludicrous tirade we get this simple comment:

This was true and valid back then. Nowadays HAProxy does this.

And just in case someone found this looking for an answer, here’s the example from that link


<span style="color:#323232;">backend bck1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  mode http
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  http-request cache-use foobar
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  http-response cache-store foobar
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  server srv1 127.0.0.1:80
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">cache foobar
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  total-max-size 4
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  max-age 240
</span>
Thrife,
@Thrife@feddit.de avatar

Nevermind, have figured it out.

<thread closed with NO FUCKING ASWER kthxbye>

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Described: Why whenever I figure something out myself after posting a help thread, I’ll write a whole report on what I did before it got fixed (because often I’m just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, and I never know what exactly moved the needle)

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Those threads with “fixed it!” and no instructions? If they’re on reddit, I’m posting “I deleted system32 and the problem went away!”

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

If it’s Linux related say “open a terminal and do sudo rm -rf /” for similar life-ruining effects.

Viking_Hippie,

sudo rm -rf /

Ok, so I retroactively removed the realm of France and now a bunch of Spanish people are pissed about living too close to Luxembourg and the number of great cheeses in the world has decreased by 80%!

What now?

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Now you remove Britain as well, and the healing can begin.

Sorse,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
Klear,

Why do I always click on these even though I know exactly what it will be?

4am,

xkcd is so good I don’t mind reading it over and over

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Like I said in a previous thread that ended up on this topic. There’s a special place in hell, with Satan from Little Nicky, a few pineapples and some lobsters to hang off these asshole’s nipples…

bownage,

Me scrolling through 150 stackoverflow pages and ‘helpful’ third party websites that don’t answer my question

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Literally happens all the damn time anymore

Whole first page is ads and threads of people saying, ‘Just Google it,’ ‘There’s a search function here for a reason,’ ‘thread locked due to frequently asked question,’ etc, etc.

I miss the earlier days of the Internet where people were more helpful. Or hell when Google wasn’t just ads and SEO crap.

Gork,

“Have you tried rtfm?”

ted,

I hate that shit. People answer with “check page 72 of your car manual” and it’s like … you clearly pulled out the manual to pull that page number, I’m under my car right now, just copy the damned sentence.

Mac,

goes to goople
searches ‘1980 cx500 only runs on one cylinder’
comment from 2007: “replace this module right here:”
[broken Photobucket link]

jawa21,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So much was lost with PhotoBucket. A mind boggling amount of information is just gone.

rumschlumpel,

Common issue with most image hosters. I think a lot of the time the issue is the users deleting their images, rather than the hoster going down.

SimplyTadpole,
@SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
jherazob,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar

Ow

Mac,

i love this

underwire212,

Not sure about [x], but here’s how you do [y]

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Me, who completely nuked twelve years worth of Reddit posts and comments which were often one of, if not the only relevant search result to an extremely niche problem.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3f1702a8-0577-4acb-bcaa-21945bca7f7e.png

Klear,

Good.

BilboTBaggin,

Yeah that’s really unfortunate :( worth it though I’d say. Just gotta build the knowledge base back up in a better place :)

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Me too actually

smiletolerantly,

Oof yeah. Finding a reddit thread with your exact query as the title, getting excited to see a comment, aaaaand… It’s “This comment was deleted by EliteUltraEraser Premium TM. I value my privacy,…”

(I do get it though. And who knows, maybe this will actually help in the long run and not just lead to increased usage of Discord communities so ask the same thing over and over and over again because they aren’t fucking publicly searchable god I hate what Discord has done to the searchability of issues in the tech space?)

smiletolerantly,

Oops, might have gone a little off topic there.

smiletolerantly,

Ah, I think my edible just hit, that explains it

smiletolerantly,

OK im gonna stop commenting now.

roguetrick,

ITT: a case study of mild cannabinoid psychosis

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Aka: my autistic ass sober

HowManyNimons,

But you were just starting to make sense

HowManyNimons,

and the experts you need to talk to aren’t necessarily available at the time you need them to re-answer a question for you

atocci,

Man Discord sure does suck for attempting to re-surface answers to previously asked questions.

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Chad

scops,

Depending on how you nuked it, reddit might have just restored the comment behind your back. My reddit account shows 0 posts/comments, but a month ago I got a reply to a comment in a post I made five years ago providing instructions on how to get a game working in Linux.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Yup, I occasionally get replies on posts over a year old that don’t show up in my history because I thought I deleted them.

Edit your posts. Don’t delete them.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Nothing is 100% but my comments were first replaced with excerpts from books in the public domain, twice. Then I went back a third time and replaced the comments with gibberish, then delete. Most of the comments I find still active are just the excerpts from the books. They read like plain English, so it is very difficult for an AI, or even a contractor, to pick up on the fact that it is worthless.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Nah, reddit restoring comments is a myth. You just didn’t delete all your comments, even though probably you thought you did.

See, Reddit, being the duplicitous bitch that it is, doesn’t really show you all your comments when you go to your profile. It’s limited to your last 1000 (?) comments or so, any comment that goes beyond that horizon is gone from your view forever, but it still exists in the thread.

The way to solve that is to first do a GDPR request. After a few weeks you will receive a zip file containing a file with all your comments and a link to it. You can then use an overwrite and delete tool and point it to this information. It will likely run for several hours or even days, depending on how many comments you made, because reddit throttles edit and delete requests, but it will effectively delete everything.

Gigasser,

Maybe one day instead of [Insert Search Query] Reddit, it will instead be [Insert Search Query] Lemmy

Edit Addendum: Might be cool if people got their old tech support posts from reddit, ask the question that was asked in a post, and then answer their own post with the answer that they gave that solved the issue.

rumschlumpel,

The first Lemmy server I chose imploded 2 months ago.

Catoblepas,

More than once I’ve had Google return a years old reddit thread with only 2 or 3 comments that just say “I don’t know, let me know if you find out.” What in the shit is going on that THAT is somehow the SEO winner?

krashmo,

Ad partner > relevance

Zier,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

People who write a whole novel about "google is your friend" and try to make you feel stupid for asking a question are the ultimate assholes.
You wrote 3 paragraphs just to bully a stranger on the internet when 1 sentence could have answered the question.
Thanks for being a royal knob head.

Samvega,

I just googled ‘is google my friend’ and google told me it was not my friend. Help.

atocci,

At least they’re honest 😞

lseif,

google is not your friend. it is a tool at best.

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

It’s that one tool at your work that needs replacement, but management refuses to do more than clean and reapply a new layer of duct tape so long as it still gets the job done eventually, forcing workers to struggle with it until giving up and finding an alternative solution that doesn’t rely on it.

HowManyNimons,

Such a fucking tool.

fracture,

it’s crazy how those comments are aging like milk precisely because google/web search is going to shit (in addition to being dickhead comments ofc)

just weird to look back and think about how we thought it would never change

Samvega,

YouTube searches are also truly awful, and have been for around a year.

fracture,

a friend of mine discovered the tip to add “before:2025” (or, the current year+1) to your yt search to improve it. i have no clue why that does anything but it reverts it to pre-enshittified functionality

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

To give google 1(one) droplet of credit, the enshittification didn’t come from them alone. In fact I’m fairly sure that if they could get their way, the page would still return useful results, only, JUST below all the paid ads. SEO Spam doesn’t help THEM either.

The problem is… A lot of the “good” results on google came from like. Enthusiast websites. Webforums. And… Reddit.

Enthusiast Websites are much rarer now. They got consolidated into media conglomerates and then closed down. Only a few remain.

Webforums are in a similar zombified state, most got vored by “social media” and Discord (P.S.: if you are a dev or artist or whatever and use a Discord server as the main helpline/download source for a project you’re doing, fuck you very much, you are the ACTUAL worst <3), which aren’t indexed by search engines.

Then Reddit got Spez’d, so THAT avenue is fucked too.

Fedi isn’t indexed by search engines either (AFAIK), so you can’t do the old “<Search terms> reddit” trick replacing reddit with lemmy. It won’t work.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

linux mint forums

smiletolerantly, (edited )

I FOUND A STACK OVERFLOW QUESTIONS RECENTLY THAT WAS LITERALLY THIS!

Nr. 1 accepted answer (lots of years ago): something something plenty of information available on Google, no need for this thread

Nr. 2 answer (way fewer years ago): seeing as this is now the first Google result for anything relating to this, here’s how you do it.

(shame I can’t remember what exactly the question was. Please still believe me? 🥺)

sparkle,

(shame I can’t remember what exactly the question was. Please still me? 🥺)

I think about half the threads on stackoverflow fit this criteria

mypasswordis1234,
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

Or someone asked a question on Reddit and got an answer, but then it was removed due to a protest. All you get is the reply “Thank you so much! It works now”

Asafum,

Honestly I was so mad when I noticed that whole thing kicking off… I had SO MANY PROBLEMS solved by finding answers on reddit…

Obligatory: Fuck Spez… Greedy POS.

roguetrick,

This is why I only search somethingawful’s archives for answers to my questions.

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