Thrife,
@Thrife@feddit.de avatar

Nevermind, have figured it out.

<thread closed with NO FUCKING ASWER kthxbye>

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Described: Why whenever I figure something out myself after posting a help thread, I’ll write a whole report on what I did before it got fixed (because often I’m just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, and I never know what exactly moved the needle)

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Those threads with “fixed it!” and no instructions? If they’re on reddit, I’m posting “I deleted system32 and the problem went away!”

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

If it’s Linux related say “open a terminal and do sudo rm -rf /” for similar life-ruining effects.

Viking_Hippie,

sudo rm -rf /

Ok, so I retroactively removed the realm of France and now a bunch of Spanish people are pissed about living too close to Luxembourg and the number of great cheeses in the world has decreased by 80%!

What now?

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Now you remove Britain as well, and the healing can begin.

Sorse,
@Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de avatar
Klear,

Why do I always click on these even though I know exactly what it will be?

4am,

xkcd is so good I don’t mind reading it over and over

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Like I said in a previous thread that ended up on this topic. There’s a special place in hell, with Satan from Little Nicky, a few pineapples and some lobsters to hang off these asshole’s nipples…

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Me, who completely nuked twelve years worth of Reddit posts and comments which were often one of, if not the only relevant search result to an extremely niche problem.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3f1702a8-0577-4acb-bcaa-21945bca7f7e.png

Klear,

Good.

BilboTBaggin,

Yeah that’s really unfortunate :( worth it though I’d say. Just gotta build the knowledge base back up in a better place :)

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Me too actually

smiletolerantly,

Oof yeah. Finding a reddit thread with your exact query as the title, getting excited to see a comment, aaaaand… It’s “This comment was deleted by EliteUltraEraser Premium TM. I value my privacy,…”

(I do get it though. And who knows, maybe this will actually help in the long run and not just lead to increased usage of Discord communities so ask the same thing over and over and over again because they aren’t fucking publicly searchable god I hate what Discord has done to the searchability of issues in the tech space?)

smiletolerantly,

Oops, might have gone a little off topic there.

smiletolerantly,

Ah, I think my edible just hit, that explains it

smiletolerantly,

OK im gonna stop commenting now.

roguetrick,

ITT: a case study of mild cannabinoid psychosis

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

Aka: my autistic ass sober

HowManyNimons,

But you were just starting to make sense

HowManyNimons,

and the experts you need to talk to aren’t necessarily available at the time you need them to re-answer a question for you

atocci,

Man Discord sure does suck for attempting to re-surface answers to previously asked questions.

Voyajer,
@Voyajer@lemmy.world avatar

Chad

scops,

Depending on how you nuked it, reddit might have just restored the comment behind your back. My reddit account shows 0 posts/comments, but a month ago I got a reply to a comment in a post I made five years ago providing instructions on how to get a game working in Linux.

CileTheSane,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Yup, I occasionally get replies on posts over a year old that don’t show up in my history because I thought I deleted them.

Edit your posts. Don’t delete them.

JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Nothing is 100% but my comments were first replaced with excerpts from books in the public domain, twice. Then I went back a third time and replaced the comments with gibberish, then delete. Most of the comments I find still active are just the excerpts from the books. They read like plain English, so it is very difficult for an AI, or even a contractor, to pick up on the fact that it is worthless.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

Nah, reddit restoring comments is a myth. You just didn’t delete all your comments, even though probably you thought you did.

See, Reddit, being the duplicitous bitch that it is, doesn’t really show you all your comments when you go to your profile. It’s limited to your last 1000 (?) comments or so, any comment that goes beyond that horizon is gone from your view forever, but it still exists in the thread.

The way to solve that is to first do a GDPR request. After a few weeks you will receive a zip file containing a file with all your comments and a link to it. You can then use an overwrite and delete tool and point it to this information. It will likely run for several hours or even days, depending on how many comments you made, because reddit throttles edit and delete requests, but it will effectively delete everything.

Gigasser,

Maybe one day instead of [Insert Search Query] Reddit, it will instead be [Insert Search Query] Lemmy

Edit Addendum: Might be cool if people got their old tech support posts from reddit, ask the question that was asked in a post, and then answer their own post with the answer that they gave that solved the issue.

rumschlumpel,

The first Lemmy server I chose imploded 2 months ago.

will_steal_your_username,

“Why are you trying to do [x]? Have you tried doing [y] instead?”

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

“You shouldn’t do [y] either, you idiot, you absolute fucking buffoon. You should instead do [z, which costs a fortune and/or requires you to restructure your entire life]”

TheFriendlyDickhead,

But it will be slighly more efficient

BirdyBoogleBop,

Thread closed [x] already answered please go to link: completly unrelated topic actually about [a]

rtxn,

And the link points to a solution from 2006 using a method that’s been outdated and unsupported for a decade.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

somebody replies to it “Here’s everything going wrong with [x]”

caseyweederman,

“Just install Linux”

mindbleach,

“But why do you want that?” should be an automatic time-out on most Q&A sites. Especially anything technical.

I don’t need to convince you to make my decisions.

rumschlumpel, (edited )

A lot of the time, the fundamental issue is the lack of information provided by the poster. I’ve seen so many threads where the provided information just isn’t enough, and they don’t react to any of the questions at all.

Mac,

goes to goople
searches ‘1980 cx500 only runs on one cylinder’
comment from 2007: “replace this module right here:”
[broken Photobucket link]

jawa21,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

So much was lost with PhotoBucket. A mind boggling amount of information is just gone.

rumschlumpel,

Common issue with most image hosters. I think a lot of the time the issue is the users deleting their images, rather than the hoster going down.

SimplyTadpole,
@SimplyTadpole@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar
jherazob,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar

Ow

Mac,

i love this

Zier,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

People who write a whole novel about "google is your friend" and try to make you feel stupid for asking a question are the ultimate assholes.
You wrote 3 paragraphs just to bully a stranger on the internet when 1 sentence could have answered the question.
Thanks for being a royal knob head.

Samvega,

I just googled ‘is google my friend’ and google told me it was not my friend. Help.

atocci,

At least they’re honest 😞

lseif,

google is not your friend. it is a tool at best.

TotallynotJessica,
@TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

It’s that one tool at your work that needs replacement, but management refuses to do more than clean and reapply a new layer of duct tape so long as it still gets the job done eventually, forcing workers to struggle with it until giving up and finding an alternative solution that doesn’t rely on it.

HowManyNimons,

Such a fucking tool.

ceiphas,

Here is a comprehensive Guide how to do [x]:

{20 paragraphs of Background Story}

[x] is Impossible to do, you dumbfuck

brisk,

Oh god you reminded me of this gem

serverfault.com/…/how-to-cache-contents-in-haprox…

Someone asks how to do http caching in HAproxy.

The one answer:

don’t use the wrong tool

haproxy is a wonderful tool. It does not provide caching. A quick scan of the fine docs can verify this. Unless you want to patch haproxy you need to use a tool that does what you’re looking to do.

don’t create impossible problems

By asking for haproxy to do something that it doesn’t and excluding the tool that seems to do what you want to do you’ve create an impossible situation. There is no technical solution for this. Don’t make choices that box you into a corner.

try varnish or anything that actually caches

If you get over that you might find this tutorial on using varnish with haproxy useful or try varnish by itself. Maybe squid or memcached would be more your speed.

In the comments to this ludicrous tirade we get this simple comment:

This was true and valid back then. Nowadays HAProxy does this.

And just in case someone found this looking for an answer, here’s the example from that link


<span style="color:#323232;">backend bck1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  mode http
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  http-request cache-use foobar
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  http-response cache-store foobar
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  server srv1 127.0.0.1:80
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">cache foobar
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  total-max-size 4
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  max-age 240
</span>
Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

And this is why I have always hated every single jackass that responded to a question with “just Google it” even when Google didn’t completely suck cock.

If I had just one single answer from a reputable source doing that, I wouldn’t be asking real people. Search engines were never infallible. Niche topics have always garnered shit results.

chiliedogg,

A lot of people don’t consider the future even when writing helpful posts. I’m as guilty as anyone.

If you link the correct answer, the person finding your post in 6 years better hope the link is still good. That’s the legitimate reason scholarly papers needs to cite specific book editions and journal page numbers instead of using hyperlinks in a bibliography.

If a copy of the book or journal can ba tracked down, the citation will still work.

It’s also why online-only published journals are still often formatted like a book with static pages instead of websites. If you find a journal article that’s important, you’ll likely still be able to find an achived copy in PDF somewhere even if the journal stops publishing or they change domains or whatever.

mypasswordis1234,
@mypasswordis1234@lemmy.world avatar

Or someone asked a question on Reddit and got an answer, but then it was removed due to a protest. All you get is the reply “Thank you so much! It works now”

Asafum,

Honestly I was so mad when I noticed that whole thing kicking off… I had SO MANY PROBLEMS solved by finding answers on reddit…

Obligatory: Fuck Spez… Greedy POS.

th3f4ult,

Wrong!

Google: How to do xyz

7 million AI generated SEO optimised bullshit websites: Here’s you do xyz (we don’t know either but we use lots of words Google likes so we get put first)

Taleya,

‘VYZ is something i will proceed to give you a summary on and then multiple links all reciting the same data’

Marighost,
@Marighost@lemm.ee avatar

Me lately trying to figure out how to do anything on Linux

NOPper,

At least you’re in the right place bro (Arch btw)

Marighost,
@Marighost@lemm.ee avatar

Thanks bro. Maybe I’ll get to Arch one day. 🙂

IzzyScissor,

At this point, all I know that “I use Arch btw” is a meme, which means it’s either a great choice or an awful choice.

NOPper,

It’s a choice, it’s just a funny meme that half of folks I these circles want to die and half will use anyway lol.

You do you bud, there’s no One Beat Distro and a lot of em can be bent into whatever shape you need anyway.

IzzyScissor,

I mean, that is still what I mean. For you - it sounds like a great choice. For the people who want it to die, it might be an awful choice. It’s polarizing, but that doesn’t always mean good. It’s hard to make an informed decision even with a popular choice.

NOPper,

Ah I think I was unclear. The meme is what folks get tired of, the distro is a popular one on its own or as a base for others.

If you’re interested in looking into Linux but don’t know where to start, the only thing you really need to know is how much time you’re willing to put into learning it, and how big the community is. Arch has a huge amount of documentation, but will make things a little harder if you want stuff to “just work”. Debian is more of a middle ground (but huge community), and Mint is a popular easier to get into environment but honestly I’m out of the loop on that one these days.Arch is actually the base of the one I use at the moment for gaming and dev work (EndeavourOS). Options are overwhelming, I get it 😁

The cool thing? Try em all. You can easily find simple installers to slap a whole distro onto a bootable thumb drive and goof off while you feel things out. If you don’t like it, reboot. If your wifi doesn’t work and you can’t find a solution online in a few minutes, reboot. Things are easier and more flexible now then they’ve ever been, but the new user experience is still where Linux really struggles.

Anyway, I’m super into this shit clearly. 😆 Happy to point you in a more solid direction if you want at some point, or I can just shut up lol

Takios,
@Takios@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

It’s great for some people, awful for others. It became a meme because it started to be suggested to everyone even though it’s an awful first introduction to the Linux ecosystem.

Titou,
@Titou@sh.itjust.works avatar

You’re lying, no Linux user use chrome

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What about that says chrome?

Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Literally happens all the damn time anymore

Whole first page is ads and threads of people saying, ‘Just Google it,’ ‘There’s a search function here for a reason,’ ‘thread locked due to frequently asked question,’ etc, etc.

I miss the earlier days of the Internet where people were more helpful. Or hell when Google wasn’t just ads and SEO crap.

Ilandar,

This was always dickhead behaviour, but not for the reasons you guys are circlejerking about. Often the answers to these questions are extremely easy to find online (even today, Google is nowhere near as useless as people make it out to be). But the entire point of asking other people through social media or a forum is because you want to engage in discussion with other humans. That’s literally the entire point of these websites: to foster discussion, both for the sake of learning and for the social entertainment we all need. People who sign up to them and then completely shutdown attempts to start discussions are absolutely braindead and don’t understand any of this. Modern forms of social media only encourage this kind of performative social interaction. So many people seem to think the sole purpose of discussion-based social media is to dunk on others with a vicious reply and “win” by earning more points (ratio) instead of having an actual back and forth discussion with another human.

LadyAutumn,
@LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I mean, there has definitely been a noticeable and significant decline in the quality of search engine results, particularly on Google. It used to stand out at least a little bit from Bing (a search engine that went very hard into inserting ads into results early on), but they’ve essentially become indistinguishable. Aesthetics and connections with other platforms like Gmail and YouTube have become the only real reason to stay with one over the other.

Ilandar,

Sure, I completely that it has declined significantly. I think the comments in this thread about it “sucking cock”, being “just ads and SEO crap”, or a “bloated, shit site” are hyperbole though. It is still the best search engine for most use-cases and queries, including finding answers to “how do I do X” type questions. I use DuckDuckGo (AKA Bing) but only because it gets close enough to Google’s results to be a superior choice for me overall when I take into account its massive privacy advantages. In terms of results, there is still enough of a gap that I will occasionally need to rely on Google’s results for particular queries. I actually used to use StartPage for this exact reason and only switched because it had issues with VPNs.

smiletolerantly, (edited )

I FOUND A STACK OVERFLOW QUESTIONS RECENTLY THAT WAS LITERALLY THIS!

Nr. 1 accepted answer (lots of years ago): something something plenty of information available on Google, no need for this thread

Nr. 2 answer (way fewer years ago): seeing as this is now the first Google result for anything relating to this, here’s how you do it.

(shame I can’t remember what exactly the question was. Please still believe me? 🥺)

sparkle,

(shame I can’t remember what exactly the question was. Please still me? 🥺)

I think about half the threads on stackoverflow fit this criteria

ZILtoid1991,

It was even wrose when there was a site by the name “let me google it for you”, which insulted you while made an animation about how to use this “not evil” website google. You google “how to do [X]” find a nice looking forum, and people either are angry that OP didn’t google it, or they deceptively linked to a lmgify page.

After a month of suffering, I instead reinstalled Windows XP, which I had a lot of trouble with (fugly UI, stability issues, performance issues, etc), but not as much as with the “king of stability”, Linux.

jamhandy,

Lol

Raxiel,

I always used to use “Let me bing it for you” at least then it was probably something they hadn’t tried, and it was proper trolling instead of just being passive aggressive

Jentu,

And when you finally find some helpful forum with content from 15 years ago, you’ll have someone be like “GUYS I FIGURED IT OUT! Here’s a [broken] link to someone else who solved it” with a dozen or so “Thanks, that solved the issue immediately for me!” Comments after it.

FermatsLastAccount,

Amount of broken links is crazy. I always try checking internet archive, but they often don’t have stuff like that.

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