maculata,

Well, this ups the ante. We need to start build really BIG bikes that can carry an entire shipping container.

Think of the fitness opportunities!

Mongostein,

You’d need a dog team of cyclists. Could be a fun time.

maculata,

I mean we’re talkin’ big ole tires on that one.

The size of the thighs alone on the delivery teams would be the size of a normal obese truck driver.

taladar,

It is not quite a shipping container but there are cargo bikes large enough for the stuff named in the post, e.g. cargocycle.de

maculata,

Bo-ring. C’mon! Beef up the aspirationals here!

SexualPolytope,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

These are common in India. We call them cycle vans.

jabathekek,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

Holy shit. I want one so I can go to costco and blow all the minds of the car brains.

Iron_Lynx,

And even a smaller Bakfiets will readily handle over 99% of the listed cases.

Phoenix3875,

Apart from cargo bikes, in London City ULEZ, buses, cabs, and utility trucks are allowed. It’s amazing how little traffic they generate.

Flax_vert,

Even Belfast only allows access to the city centre for vehicles doing deliveries. It’s not uncommon to see one, but I mean a single one generally in the centre of a capital city

Flax_vert,

Who made up that rule lol

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

I think that’s slightly critical of Damaris.

They are asking a question regarding something they do not understand.

It is a true statement that roads are used to transport goods and services.

They then simply ask who in the video is carrying goods and products into stores/homes, and how workers move goods from ports to the stores.

They don’t know how a system like this works when it comes to, for example, stocking a grocery store, because they have not worked or lived in a place with infrastructure like this.

It’s just ad hominem and poor practice to call someone blind when they aren’t familiar with something, particularly when they seem interested in how it works, and works contrary to convincing people of the cause.

If someone has worked with punch cards to program a computer all their life, and someone showed them software written the python programming language and they said:

“But the punch card is so that the computer can read in bytes to know what to do, in this text I don’t see any bytes, there’s nothing telling the computer if this is little endian or big endian, it all looks like a book. How does the text tell the computer what to do?”

Then my response would NOT be “Well the list comprehension here is yielding a range of numbers which are sent to the print function, and this class is acting as a signal handler. Aside from punch card brained, you’re also blind”.

My response would be a very happy opportunity to explain to them the benefits of a modern programming language versus punch cards, and how it works in comparison.

Unless this is a person known to be explicitly anti-bike and pro-car, it is bad to be this critical of them and works in no one’s favor.

shikitohno,

It is a true statement that roads are used to transport goods and services.

They then simply ask who in the video is carrying goods and products into stores/homes, and how workers move goods from ports to the stores.

It’s a very simplistic and reductive view of roads, though, in response to a post that specifically mentions another function of roads, namely, facilitating people’s travels as individuals for their own purposes. It’s like you telling someone you like using lemmy because you’ve found communities you enjoy participating in and individuals you like talking to, and they go, “But the internet is for commerce, the buying and selling of goods! Who is selling and who is buying in these instances?”

Your example is overly charitable, in my opinion. Not everyone is being malicious with these sorts of questions, but the person is ignoring some pretty clear context explaining other uses of roads to go attach a strawman. At the very least, it seems like a bad faith argument.

makyo,

I’m skeptical of all that - surely they understand that roads carry more than just goods and services. It’s such a basic part of society that you’d have to be from another planet to be confused about that and build a whole argument based on it.

fiercekitten,

You can’t just dictate what you believe roads should be for and think everyone should agree with it as fact. Roads are for a lot of things, and even in this guy’s narrow definition, people are goods, in fact they are the most important and valuable goods on the roads.

Ephera,

Yeah, and I mean, even most car traffic doesn’t fit into this ridiculous definition. People take their car to just do recreational stuff all the time.

I mean, holy fuck, how else would you get there than via streets in some fashion? Take the helicopter from your roof?

runwaylights,

That’s one of the busiest intersections in Utrecht, especially in the weekend with buses, cyclists, pedestrians and some cars. It’s pretty easy to navigate too

jabathekek,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

This is one of the busiest intersections in Greater Victoria, British Columbia. Yes, it’s as awful as it looks. It also cuts in half what would have been a really great trail-rail. It’s like they just gave up.

qjkxbmwvz,

A perk of belonging to my city’s bike advocacy group is that you can rent this for no additional charge:

64″ aluminum truss-frame trailer; easily carry a 4×8 sheet of plywood, eight bags of groceries, or whatever else you can fit on it up to 300 lbs; holds 4 plastic tote boxes before stacking

Nosireebob, can’t haul stuff around with that… /s

azimir,

My dad has a solid bike trailer. It’s not as big as your group’s one, but he can do about a WinCo shopping cart worth in it. That’s plenty for the vast majority of their household needs.

Hugh_Jeggs,

Trying to persuade the (amazingly) only contractors on the entire planet that think they need a tiny-penis truck because they occasionally need to pick up some wood from Howm Deeepo to ride a bike is like trying to get blood from a stone

z3rOR0ne,
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar
Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Holy leg day

That’s awesome

bl_r,
caboose2006,

The bike in front literally has shopping bags hanging from the handles. Fucking clown take

pleb_maximus,

And also someone sitting on the back of the bike.

arymandias,

Having lived in Utrecht, yes all those stores in the picture, completely empty, also all the people on bikes are happy to finally have the chance to sit after spending their day in a house without furniture.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

How often does one need to transport a sofa, table, or desk? That’s what delivery trucks are for, which is a legitimate use of that type of transportation.

The drugstore cowboys driving Dodge Rams clogging up the streets aren’t transporting anything more robust than a 12-pack of Mtn Dew and complaining about the price of gas

CosmicTurtle0,

Oddly enough, the discussion is never on the other side.

“WHY DO YOU NEED BIKE LANES?! NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO RIDE A BIKE! JUST DRIVE!”

NigelFrobisher,

We’ve got to move these microwave ovens. We’ve got to move these colour TVs.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Looks at literally the front bike in the picture…

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Yea, car congestion isn’t about industrial transport, it’s about personal transport. All of the people commuting to/from work etc in single person occupied tanks.

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