Yeah, fuck the Portuguese people being priced out of their own country. Just enjoy the nice sun and the free healthcare (that we pay for). Just as long as you enjoy it. Keep them coming, who cares about the millions of Portuguese who are being forced to leave the country every day so guys like you can have our houses and enjoy our country.
Or…you could fix your own damn country instead of ruinning ours. Just a thought.
Depends on the country. At least around 2020 I’d heard from my sister in Australia that they were trying to incentivize people in the industry to get work visas. It’s hard to get citizenship there though iirc
I’m not leaving. It’s tempting, but at this point, I’m committed to staying and fighting for all of the people who don’t have the privilege to move. And the kids who are too young to vote but deserve to know there are adults on their side who won’t abandon it. I don’t begrudge anyone who moves, especially if it’s a safety issue, but I just can’t.
good luck to the ones leaving, even the rich. climate change and a world order of rewarded greed are just pushing every country into pockets of extremism. the chips have fallen, where we are is where we end.
If I had the means to leave I’d already be gone.
It seriously makes me wonder though, if Trump starts executing minorities and Democratic party members en masse, what are the odds that any country would give asylum to Americans?
Probably pretty slim
I’d love to leave. I desperately want to. But I have no marketable skills (too broke to attend college out of high school, am trying now but still have 2 1/2 years to go, so too long), I’m terrifyingly broke, have a weird-ass employment history from years of undiagnosed mental illness and just recently diagnosed ADHD, and I never learned a second language because shitty education and I don’t pick up languages well from those programs that claim to teach you. If I could go, I’ve have gone already, but nowhere worth going wants me and I get it. I know I’m a loser. I’m stuck on this ship while the cool kids are leaving in the life boats. And yes, I vote, but what does it matter?
Amen. You’ll never hear me whining about that. Anyone desperate enough to risk their life to cross the border has to be escaping hell. I used to live in an area with a lot of immigrants and some refugees and my job put me in contact with them frequently and I never saw any reason to have a problem with any of them. Despite what the media says, they were no worse than any other person, and a lot of them were good people who were clearly doing their best.
What isn’t true, specifically? I’m curious to hear what you think is “never true.”
Have you uhhh, looked at the article headline? There’s a pretty obvious and specific claim. That, as OP pointed out, has been claimed for many presidencies including the last time trump won.
If you read the article, how were you possibly confused as to what OP was talking about?
Anyway, like OP said, people have said they were going to leave if W won, if trump won in 2016 etc. Guess what? No real surge in migration either of those times. But sure maybe THIS time they mean it.
Most people are full of shit. Where are they going to go? Getting citizenship in another country isn’t easy. “I’ll leave the country if Bush gets elected” was a thing back in the day. Guess how many people actually left? It wasn’t the majority…
this is the stupidest thing i keep hearing. everyone who says they’re going to leave is absolutely full of shit. they don’t know anything about where they will go and they have no plan to do anything like this. they’re just being pussies.
It’s not stupid. It has happened before. That it hasn’t happened “in droves” is one thing, but it has happened.
Source: I have spoken to a few of them.
Where? Europe, South East Asia and, believe it or not, South America.
Do you know who would be full of shit about leaving? Those who say they’d do it if Trump didn’t win. I haven’t met any Republican expats (or immigrants) just yet.
I’m currently in the process of immigrating to another country from America because of this.
The immigration group I worked with has hard statistics showing a rapid increase in Americans applying for bias with Trump presidency, and his now potential reelection.
Out of a group of ten friends, two of us are getting visas due to trump politics, and two others are going down their family ancestry route for visas into Germany. So that’s 40% of the people I know, including myself.
It’s not cheap to do this either. It’s a real commitment in money, time, energy, and risk. But that’s what it takes to have a plan B for if the shit show lands again, because it’s a full on dictator ship next round.
The last thing the rest of the world needs is American right wingers moving over. And if you think Biden is actually good, I’ve got news for you about your political leanings.
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