Got a source that isn’t some mongrel barking the words of the Israel State which is currently engaged in genocide? Cuz i have lots of sources calling this a genocide, and just you saying “naw actually hamas stuck a stick in their own bike wheel.”
You’re just like the ones i hear saying RATM went soft. Stop being a dumbass, it’s infectious for some and the rest of us are embarrassed for you.
This comment isn’t just to get you angry, though it is that too. The second part, here is to tell you that ad hominem is a widely used propaganda method to shut down thought on important topics.
Does where snowden decides to post his message reduce, at all, the content of that message?
Easy! No. Not at all.
So don’t carry water for the ones who silence dissent. It makes you useful to them, and useless to the rest of the world
There’s lots of em, some are in the replies you got before mine. The point isn’t whether you believe them, the point of them is to make you not want to listen to RATM. Hell after 9/11 there was a memo put out asking radio stations not to play certain 'anti establishment songs, but only one band was called out specifically for total blackout. Wanna guess which it was?
Their message is powerful, and getting more obviously true every day. I dont give a single fuck about whether they for paid for being a successful band, and neither should anyone with a modicum of understanding in the message they speak.
Regardless, thinking they’re hypocrites isn’t what matters, people are free to think that. The only thing that matters is whether thinking that way stops one from listening to their words, which are true no matter what you think of them. If one decides not to listen don’t because someone said they’re now RWTM, somebody in psyops is happy for their ignorance
See guys? Comments like this one. Note how the premise of my comment was ignored and they engaged in ad hominem, while saying (without saying) that you should ignore them completely. This is the kinda fud to look out for
Don’t apologize, you did a great job. Now id like you to read the entire chain along with snowden’s words so you can catch up on the whole point of this thread. Do this and you’ll be less “object lesson” and more “lesson learned”.
I’ll edit my comment too. See how this commenter is doubling down? They offer nothing, (even couched within their ad hominem), of substance. I mean to say that they disparage the “message” as having "less meaning"without really explaining why.
Indeed, the commenter invites the reader (by agreeing with them) to engage in ‘virtue signaling’ (by again saying without saying), conflating their distaste for corporate sponsorship and expensive tickets (something we all share) with a reason to not listen to RATM at all.
It’s another great example of bad reasoning one might fall prey to if one doesn’t engage in critical thinking.
Ok, youre one of them who can’t stop replying when their feeling are hurt. Shoot your last shot in, and go smoke a cig or something, cuz it’s the last reply for you today. Ill check in with you later, maybe in a week.
The important thing for you to consider is if i did, would what i just said be less true? I invite you to consider this, and not in an Internet fight way where we flex our shit talking muscles at each other, but in a “hey, maybe there is a point worthy of debate” kinda way.
Like id be interested in considering the point that "the messenger does matter. I’m sure there are cases, but they’d be extreme cases to my mind.
C’mon, we are in a privacy sub. Maybe you should take your frustration with me to pms and ill help you out, privately. The need to fluff your feathers for the others in the room is distracting you.
Then rather than engaging in an emotional battle, read the content of his statements and judge their veracity as an idea separate from the man. If motive is impossible to discern from the data you have, you need more data, right? At least if you know what it is that he is accusing the govt of, specifically, will help to determine more of the motivations behind his choice, right?
I’m not saying read them and believe them, but rather cast your critical eye upon his focus, and then perhaps you can poke holes in his conclusions or discern what, if he’s lying, what those lies are meant to achieve
The problem’s voting for the candidate doesn’t work either. Or Voting 3rd party. Or Voting Republican. Or primarying in a more leftist candidate (because they often fight and lose to the DNC).
Apparently, neither does going on record as not voting for him as a protest. Hmmmm… what was the way to move the Democrats left?
Meanwhile, Biden has spent the trial trying to get Americans to pay attention to his claim to have done much more for the economy than Trump ever managed,
Said the author covering Trumps trial and not bidens accomplishmens. Kinda a stupid title, Biden wasn’t there. The title did cause me to imagine Biden smashing thru a wall at the trial and yelling ECONOMY OH YEAH! like the kool ade man so that was fun at least
President Biden laid it out for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel long before letting the public know. In a conversation bristling with tension on Feb. 11, the president warned the prime minister against a major assault on the Gaza city of Rafah — and suggested that continued U.S. support would depend on how Israel...
Tens of thousands of Palestinians were fleeing Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost city, on Saturday, after Israeli warnings to evacuate before an imminent military assault that will open a bloody new phase of the seven-month-long conflict....
I hold him personally responsible for sending weapons to Israel, even to the point of doing a run-around Congress, to supply them with the means to commit genocide. In addition i hold him, a self-described zionist, personally responsible for deliberately tying recent college protests of that genocide to antisemitism, saying:
“This ancient hatred of Jews didn’t begin with the Holocaust,” he said. “It didn’t end with the Holocaust, either.”
Yes, it’s 100% bidens choice to continue sending weapons to commit genocide. And to allow dissent of his, of our, part in it, to be crushed.
When statements don’t make sense, i find it helpful to cut out any part that offends logic and see if it becomes clearer. In this case i apply it like this:
“[T]he United States has made clear that it will block Palestinian membership and statehood.
There! The other parts were extraenous fluff to soften their perceived position.
(I know you already grok their position, I’m just sayin its a hack i like.)
I like your comment. Also isnt it comical how simple truths (e.g. the system doesnt represent us, politicians too old etc) keep getting downvoted so hard, huh? Keep it up, you never know. Someone out there who reads more than writes may learn something and start pulling their head out of the cavern below their belt.
For the room:
Like, get a grip y’all. criticism is an important part of a free democracy, and the press has abdicated its position something must fill this gap. Honestly, you dumbasses actually need folks like us around to point things out that you guys would never ever come up with on your own (i think everyone is a dumbass at something btw, Even geniuses are dumbasses at at least one thing, and politics is a big one. Many otherwise intelligent people become spittin’ simpletons when politics is le topic.)
Yes. Yes i am talking to you. You, the one already preparing to reply. Don’t. You don’t got nothing to say i haven’t already heard. Those of you still reading, i respect you more for it. It’s not like ill read the replies a comment like this generated.
So, listen up:
We’re not russo-chinese spies lol. That is a stupid claim. Only stupid people believe this. We are your peers. This peer in particular is a little tired explaining how the world works, but ill keep going, because this is how i do democracy. This is how democracy is done in a free society.
How convenient (for those still not convinced) that the TV and news did a ad hominem! How great that you already know all your need to! How nice to know that all dissenting opinions are simply spies, bad actors or useful idiots! How very convenient that the easiest path forward, and the right thing to do is nothing.
Learn nothing, consider nothing, suspect nothing, do nothing.
I envy you believers… What a lovely faith to have.
Engagement points are to your left. I appreciate your clicking either one of them
Since i get called a spy and bad actor so often, it got me thinking about theories n such.
Now, I don’t believe this, but if there were astroturfing i would think it would be done by both the DNC and RNC. I’m just screwing around, but it would make sense a lil bit.
The green party will get a larger percentage than normal this year, and while I don’t think the DNC or RNC feel threatened by them, it is very important to them that Americans never feel a third party is possible.
Meh. There’s no conspiracy, its just people getting whipped up into a today cuz it’s an election year and truth is on hiatus.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., says Israel is about to commit "crimes against humanity" and on Tuesday urged the International Criminal Court to arrest Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
I’m actually heartened to see an American rep say this. I’m not hopeful, but i am heartened.
Now my cynical side heard me feeling ok about something and he is telling me to look for her career to be over now. He says he’ll betcha anything she gets primaried out of her spot by the DNC next election at the latest.
I didn’t see a “scoop” here. White Horse declined to comment, Israel doesn’t know, then the article lists a series of unrelated incidents which could accidentally cause a reader to mistake correlation with causation.
Do you follow op around just to harass them? If you had read the article (or even the whole title) youd see this article doesn’t focus on Biden, or any candidate at all.
I didn’t ask you that question, i made a rhetorial statement to illustrate the low worth of your comment.
And now im telling you yes, your comment is a problem for me because i like content. you are bullying a content creator, and you don’t. read. articles.
You are content i do not like. I would block you because of your shameless, stupid behavior, but i can’t. Youre bullying a content creator, which means leaving you alone could mean i get less.
Dont you dare speak pridefully for your behavior. You don’t deserve pride for that, or anger for this. If we lived in a better world, or were you a better person? You might actually learn some shame.
What you do need now is to recognize what a child you’ve been, and rectify it going forward.
I think you probably spent the whole time defending your actions as honorable, but i don’t have the stomach for a whole paragraph of you rationalizing being a shithead to another human being. you probably rationalized that his message must be attacked for the greater good or something?
Homie, you. are. the. problem. I absolutely hate, like really hate people like you. You’re the same online or off, and the only way you’ll change is if someone stronger makes you. That is who you are. I want you to understand it. In your bones. You are not righteous. You are not helping. You are not neccessary.
Now let me express how things will work going forward.
I will continue to harp on you every time you do this childish, bullying exercise. I will do this for awhile. I don’t suspect i can make you do anything, or change, but i can hope that having someone like me do the same thing to you, that you are doing to someone else, flips that rusty empathy switch in your brain, and allows clarity of thought.
Probably not, i will probably get bored first, stubborn people are extremely tiring to me.
You’re talking to kids aping the derision they hear the pol pundits use. You’re not going to get actual replies, just canned, vaguely relevant snark sounds to cover for their confusion. They’re not ready to discuss manufactured consent here.
More than 170 attacks have been committed against politicians in the lead-up to the June elections. This violence has put campaigns under tension and is sowing doubts about governability in several regions. Specialists warn that the line between the Mexican state and organized crime is increasingly blurred...
I think he made a very good point, that traditional forms of marketing are dead, and the best place to market is the storefront itself (on the Internet).
Then again i also agree with your point, this kind of puff-piece is a type of marketing as old as human beings.
Geez, i expected more fighting in the comments, but everyone here’s just dunking on op and calling them a “bad actor” so I’ll start one.
Is there even a single comment about the content of the article? Some of y’all commenting on FUD and OPs contributions should take a hard look at their contribution to both this comment chain, and Lemmy in general. I hope it looks better than what i see.
Anyway, enough of how disappointed i am with you, all of you, and on to the article.
Most of the article is just polling opinions, so not a lot to see, but i thought this part was interesting:
Fewer voters also say “it really matters who wins” the 2024 presidential race compared to those that said the same at this point in the 2020 cycle. Back then, 80 percent of Trump supporters and 77 percent of Biden supporters said the race really matters — but those figures have now dropped to 70 percent each.
This is surprising. I thought most people considered this election even more important than the last!
Is there a record somewhere of “election importance”? How far back does it go? Is this 7-10% drop normal?
By the way OP. As someone often critical of Biden i too get called a russian or chinese tank sometimes, so i feel close to ya. Thanks for contentin’ and shit. here’s an upvote from me <3
Over a dozen members of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s family, including six of his siblings, are endorsing President Biden in Philadelphia Thursday even as he makes his own bid for Biden’s job as an independent candidate....
Honestly, as it’s the Kennedy family, i expect this is a political maneuver rather than some patriotism or morality. I wonder how many of these family members were promised appointments for themselves in return? I am looking forward to finding out after Biden wins.
Though they’re known for showing reflected reality, a mirror has no power to show the truth to people so blind they are unaware of their own family’s minds. I bet his world and visage looks very different from his perspective.
That said this is a terrible shot of him alongside a highly shopped and makeup’d biden.
What the hell is she supposed to do as a single person?
She could start by going back in time and not pressing “send” on her poorly-disguised pro-israeli fud mischaracterizing israel’s genocide as a war and israels starvation of its citizens as Hamas’ fault. Then, after deleting her zionism-apologist garbage, she should stand up, drop her drawers, and kiss her own ass.
I still use noscript and ublock. How is ublock “everything and more” than noscript? i would love to be corrected by you but far as i know they are very different programs, each with their place
Gaza's broken water system crippling children with sickness (www.bbc.com)
Eight months of war have reduced nine-year-old Yunis Jumaa to skin and bone....
Snowden: "They've gone full mask-off: do not ever trust OpenAI or its products" (twitter.com)
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'People got betrayed': Cardi B says she's not voting in the presidential election (www.msnbc.com)
Trump turns trial into circus as Biden tries to focus minds on economy (www.theguardian.com)
As a slew of Republicans went to the hush-money trial to show their fealty to their boss, the president tried to rise above it...
Pro-Palestine demonstrators in Portugal assaulted by Israeli tourists (www-jn-pt.translate.goog)
Revealed: Magician David Copperfield accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women (www.theguardian.com)
The Long, Tortured Road to Biden’s Clash With Netanyahu Over Gaza War (www.nytimes.com)
President Biden laid it out for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel long before letting the public know. In a conversation bristling with tension on Feb. 11, the president warned the prime minister against a major assault on the Gaza city of Rafah — and suggested that continued U.S. support would depend on how Israel...
Terrified families flee Rafah as Israel set to open all-out assault (www.theguardian.com)
Tens of thousands of Palestinians were fleeing Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost city, on Saturday, after Israeli warnings to evacuate before an imminent military assault that will open a bloody new phase of the seven-month-long conflict....
UN assembly approves resolution granting Palestine new rights and reviving its UN membership bid (apnews.com)
Beards are magic (lemmy.world)
Biden Says Trump Will Not Accept 2024 Result: ‘I Promise You He Won’t’ (www.huffpost.com)
“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” the president told CNN’s Erin Burnett....
Rep. Rashida Tlaib: Arrest Netanyahu for 'crimes against humanity' - UPI.com (www.upi.com)
Rep. Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., says Israel is about to commit "crimes against humanity" and on Tuesday urged the International Criminal Court to arrest Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
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New poll reveals a major warning sign for Biden and Democrats in key down-ballot races (www.businessinsider.com)
GOP official argues in favor of child marriage: Girls are ‘ripe’ and ‘fertile’ (www.nj.com)
Scoop: U.S. put a hold on an ammunition shipment to Israel (www.axios.com)
‘Double Hater’ Voters Are Not Sold on Biden, Trump, or Kennedy | Monmouth University Polling Institute (www.monmouth.edu)
Congress is killing Biden’s cancer moonshot (www.politico.com)
Mexico is heading towards its most violent election ever, with 30 candidates murdered, 77 threatened and 11 kidnapped (english.elpais.com)
More than 170 attacks have been committed against politicians in the lead-up to the June elections. This violence has put campaigns under tension and is sowing doubts about governability in several regions. Specialists warn that the line between the Mexican state and organized crime is increasingly blurred...
'Marketing's dead, and I can back this s**t up': Baldur's Gate 3 publishing director says players 'just want to be spoken to, and they don't want to be bamboozled' (www.pcgamer.com)
Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges (www.bbc.com)
62 percent of Biden voters want to replace both candidates on the ballot: Poll (www.thehill.com)
Several RFK Jr. siblings set to endorse Biden (www.cbsnews.com)
Over a dozen members of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s family, including six of his siblings, are endorsing President Biden in Philadelphia Thursday even as he makes his own bid for Biden’s job as an independent candidate....
Kennedy family to endorse Biden in Philadelphia in latest rebuke to RFK Jr. (thehill.com)
I believe in another Israel – one not defined by Benjamin Netanyahu and his cronies (www.theguardian.com)
The Israel that I meet every day is made up of people who want to forge a path towards peace and security for all...
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