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usernamefactory,

You know, I’d personally rate V above Nemesis, Insurrection, Generations, and Into Darkness… and that still feels like very faint praise. Star Trek has had some pretty lousy movies over the years.

usernamefactory,

No, no, more like “I’m going to fly a shuttle outside your quarters so I can spy on you during your date”

usernamefactory,

Same man created the brilliant Star Trek Blueprints, the first detailed deck plans for the Enterprise. He did all this after his daughter took him to a Trek convention and he saw how passionate the fans were and what a need there was for material like this. It’s a great story.

www.trekplace.com/franzjoseph.html

usernamefactory,

Releasing Let That Be Your Last Battlefield at the height of the civil rights movement wasn’t some hypothetical philosophizing. That was pointed condemnation. Same with The Outcast’s attack on conversion therapy, or In The Hands of the Prophets’ take on religious dogmatism.

Star Trek has always been happy to condemn bad ideas. If you think it’s just started telling people off now then you haven’t been paying attention.

usernamefactory,

THERE! ARE! FOUR! STICKYTHINGS!

usernamefactory,

The rest of TOS was not at all spared from this sort of sexism, and worse. The Enemy Within in particular makes me squirm in my seat. I actually really like The Cage as an episode, despite some of those valid issues.

usernamefactory,

Did season 5 crash and burn? Last I heard it was hitting Nielsen’s top ten streaming list. Seems pretty good for a show that was on its way out.

usernamefactory,

Hard to say with Discovery, since every season has had its share of detractors. It was cancelled for a reason, obviously. I didn’t have the impression that the overall sentiment changed enough to alter any plans, but I don’t exactly have my finger to the pulse outside of Lemmy.

usernamefactory,

I’m 100% here for your vision of the Academy series.

usernamefactory,

Agreed, Discovery has really only scratched the surface of what can be done with the Federation’s rebuilding itself, Earth’s new isolationist tendencies, and the unified Vulcan/Romulan society. It’d be a shame to leave all that behind. Plus, we still need to learn what’s become of the Klingons!

usernamefactory,

I’m rewatching season 3 now, and the themes of trauma and mental health are so pervasive that I think it was really appropriate that the burn would be the result of a mental health crisis in one way or another. In that context, I think putting a face to it works. The “Force of Nature” or old-school Borg route could work great, but for a different show/season.

usernamefactory,

I don’t think she specified that she would be on a starship. I would guess it’s a seafaring ship, dedicated to following George and Gracie around for study and caretaking. As you say, she’s the only one left with the skills, not to mention the personal connection.

usernamefactory,

Crew complement went from 203 to 430, so this makes perfect sense.

usernamefactory,

6:35 here: youtu.be/_aNKXY7eqIs?si=2oEBQEA2Zj1_REiX

I had an VHS tape of these bloopers back in the day, but haven’t seen them since. Nice to have a reason to track them down online.

usernamefactory,

Yeah, there’s a reason every bullet point is in the past tense. Also I feel like “cheated and got away with it” is being counted as a point in the wrong direction here…

usernamefactory,

It must be that sequel to Conspiracy we’ve been waiting decades for!

usernamefactory,

Rick Berman certainly worked to pull down the franchise. To be clear, though, Ferengi society was not a sexist take. It was a negative depiction of a sexist society. You were never supposed to watch an episode and come away thinking “man, those Ferengi really have it all figured out.”

usernamefactory,

Yeah, that’s definitely fair to say. I don’t think we saw any Ferengi women until DS9. TNG tried to introduce them as the new big bad in season 1, but when that kind of fizzled they really didn’t seem to have any solid ideas to develop them.

usernamefactory,

I agree completely. The planet Michael and Book settled on was beautiful, the makeup was well done, the new uniforms were nifty, but what was the point of it all? That one day Michael will be old and nostalgic? I didn’t need to be told that. And I definitely didn’t need the half hearted Calypso tie-in. It was just disturbing watching Michael smilingly order a sentient intelligence to suffer a thousand years of loneliness for no reason that we or she knows.

The wedding and beach scenes were lovely and were already the perfect note to leave on.

usernamefactory,

I love Pike’s command style. No ego or pretence. If you’re on his bridge it’s because he trusts you, and he’ll never give you a reason to think otherwise.

Picard is a wonderful character, but it took him seven years to join his officers for a game of poker. Pike’s cooking dinner with them week one. If you want my best work, that’s how you get it.

usernamefactory,

Happy if JJ never gets near a Trek set again, but as far as the new series are concerned, I’d rank them all between “pretty good” and “excellent”. Except Picard, but even that mess was at least a better send off than Nemesis.

Berman? Best thing he ever did was stay away from DS9, and that just because he was too busy making Voyager worse.

usernamefactory,

I don’t think any rewrite would be needed. Almost the whole season was filmed not knowing it was the last. The few scenes they filmed with that knowledge were just to put a nice cap on the series. Probably something like the last scene in All Good Things, which wouldn’t have prevented a TNG season 8 if the winds suddenly changed.

That said, I think the most we can hope for is for this to encourage them to incorporate more Disco elements into Academy. I don’t see them backing down on this being the final season.

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'Star Trek' Franchise Reboot: Simon Kinberg Eyed for Paramount Movie

So now this just sounds like a Trek prequel, not specifically a Kelvin prequel.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-trek-movie-franchise-reboot-paramount-1235904930/

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usernamefactory,

Having TV and film Star Trek exist in separate timelines seems like a bad approach for getting people invested in the franchise as a whole. I wonder if that’s the reasoning for the early Federation time period. People who have only watched the Kelvin films can understand it as a prequel to those, but elements from it could just as easily spin-off into a streaming show without issue.

usernamefactory,

Now that I’ve thought about it some more, it’s unlikely the movies would be making any decisions based off of what’s best for the streaming shows. That would probably be seen as the tail wagging the dog.

That said, I’ve definitely encountered people who enjoyed the films but skipped the shows on account of not knowing where to start and finding the relationship too confusing. It would make sense to pair a successful “early days” movie with an “early days” spinoff series to lure some of that casual audience to streaming.

usernamefactory,

At some point her face starts showing up on recruitment posters, so maybe? On the other hand, we only saw a poster like that 100 years after her time, so maybe not.

Alternatively, she leant her voice specifically to the Enterprise computer, as seen in TOS. Then years later, when it was decided to standardize voices across the fleet, they just went with what was used on the Enterprise. Because the Enterprise always seems to be the favourite of the fleet.

usernamefactory,

You’d think, but being rubbish at accents feels like it falls in line with other seemingly arbitrary limitations Data has, like being unable to use contractions or fake a convincing laugh.

usernamefactory,

My partner usually rolls their eyes when a musical episode gets going, but has rewatched Subspace Rhapsody with me multiple times. It’s all in the execution, and SNW did a great job of it.

usernamefactory,

Never got the hate for STV to be honest. It has crummy effects and some badly placed humour, but it has a good heart and strong Trek-style themes. Also, some seriously iconic lines.

Nemesis, I get. Hands down the worst movie out of the franchise. Dumb boring action garbage featuring the most egregious and unnecessary Troi mind-rape incident of all. Left a bad taste in my mouth for 18 years.

usernamefactory,

Voyager was present at the big bang, also thanks to Q, so that’s got to be your first scene. This would be a massive undertaking, but a lot of fun to see.

usernamefactory,

Click baity headline. Here’s the actual quote:

“There were Romulans—there was a whole thing. The idea was that Guinan’s bar was presented as a normal bar in Los Angeles, but if you knew the right thing to do, you could go into the back through the telephone phone booth and that was Rick’s Café and it was a stopping point for all these different species that were actually there on Earth with a ‘Do not interfere’ thing happening. So you had a lot more Star Trek happening in the backdrop of it. Ultimately, the powers that be at that time were like, ‘This is too much.’ But there were some really good ideas there that were pretty cool.”

Sounds like they wanted to throw in a bunch of random alien species cameos that would have done nothing but distract from the plot. Frankly, there’s too much of that in Season 2 already. We don’t need young Guinan, Gary Seven’s team, a Soong, visitors from Vulcan, the Borg Queen, and Q all mucking about with Earth. Pick two to three of those and actually develop them.

usernamefactory,

I remember a lot of hate. Even Majel Barrett took a shot at it when they had The Rock cameo.

usernamefactory,

I have never considered this, and now it will always be top of mind when that episode comes up.

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The Vulcans didn’t know the Romulans were their long lost brothers until Errand of Mercy, did they? Hard to reconcile with a group who noped off thousands of years ago and may not even exist anymore.

Not to say this wouldn’t factor into the Romulan’s attitude, it probably would, but it would be in an irrational way.

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