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Sanctus, to politics in Trump confidant Roger Stone caught on tape talking about Mar-a-Lago judge and the real reason trial delays matter
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Stolen again? I’m so tired of this shit. They’re gonna do it again no matter the results. How is the FBI not all over these people? Its the same coup rheotirc.

Theprogressivist,
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, it’s infuriating, but the FBI has a bunch of Trump loyalists, so it makes sense why they’ve had their thumbs up their asses regarding these chucklefucks.

Sanctus,
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I guarantee the Proud Boys are going to be harassing the polls. We’re going to have to muster a fucken militia just to be able to vote.

MrSpArkle,

[John Brown intensifies]

Sanctus,
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We are his soul marching on

borari,

Just to be clear, shitfuck Stone isn’t admitting to stealing an election or trying to steal an election, he’s implying that President Biden stole the election.

He goes on to say “We’re working on it: lawyers, judges, technology,”, so he’s definitely admitting to trying to steal this upcoming election.

So yes, same coup rhetoric, and I would like nothing more to see his front door ravaged by a battering ram during an early morning no-knock warrant raid, but you are taking that one specific quote regarding an election being stolen again slightly out of context. Everything else you said is totally valid based on everything else Stone said on camera though.

fartington, to politics in Alito pens divisive opinion limiting immigrant rights over strongly-worded Jackson dissent

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    Deport they neighbors

    workerONE, to politics in Alito pens divisive opinion limiting immigrant rights over strongly-worded Jackson dissent

    “In each instance, the three petitioners, led by Moris Esmelis Campos-Chaves in the case stylized as Campos-Chaves v. Garland, were sent an initial “notice to appear” or “NTA” that did not contain date or time information. And, as a result of that missing information, those notices did not fall in line with the statutory requirements of the INA. Later, each petitioner was sent a follow-up notice or notices that did contain the date and time information of their removal hearing. In time, each petitioner was ordered to be removed by an immigration judge. They later sought to reopen their cases and have those orders tossed.

    Now, the Supreme Court has ruled that so long as the government eventually sends an immigrant notice containing the correct date and time information, the removal process can be initiated.”

    PenisWenisGenius, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    How about pass a law to turn Louisiana into a giant parking lot

    rayyy, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    Matt Gaetz might want to avoid Louisiana.

    rand_alpha19, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    I'm not really sure what removing a female sex offender's ovaries are supposed to do to prevent recidivism. As far as I'm aware, that wouldn't do anything but send her into early menopause; restlessness, irritability, and libido might actually increase, which may make reoffending more likely.

    Stern, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality
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    Unless the evidentiary standard is like, “video evidence of the person stating their full name and social security number before doing it”, I’m firmly against any punishment that can’t be reversed or at least readily resolved like the death penalty or castration. We’ve got plenty of cases overturned years later on DNA evidence and the like.

    jeffw,

    Yeah, the right wing obsession with punishment is absurd. Even if we do have that level of evidence, the first reaction should be an attempt to rehabilitate, not inflict irreparable harm.

    It’s also stupid because sometimes sexual abuse of a child is about power, not sexual pleasure itself.

    JeeBaiChow, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    False accusations gonna go through the roof in Louisiana. Calling it now.

    Also, how are women child sex offenders affected by all this?

    5oap10116, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    This will certainly help them pay their debt to society and become fully functioning rehabilitated members. I can see only pros. /s

    guyrocket, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality
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    Next we should cut off thieves' hands. Then harvest organs randomly from prisoners.

    They're criminals. They should not have any rights. Fuck em, right?

    (/s)

    Telodzrum, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    Cool, Louisiana joins Florida and California as the only places with medieval penal codes like this.

    jeffw,

    California?

    Telodzrum,

    Yeah, it’s one of two states still using chemical castration as a punishment. Between that and still being a death penalty state it’s a rather barbaric place.

    Snowclone,

    People spend so much time hating CA for being liberal, they can’t seem to figure out we have a justice system that’s more responsible for the huge percentage of prisoners vs free citizens than Texas. We had a ‘‘three strikes’’ rule in the 90s that made nearly every single conviction a mandatory life sentence, as we have so many tack on laws you can’t be convicted of one singular crime in almost every case. We had to stop enforcing the 3 strikes rule, apparently baseball isn’t a viable guide to civil codes. Who knew? And we regularly have prisons just send lesser or non violent crime prisoners home with time served because they don’t have any space left in the prison.

    Silverseren, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    I have a couple of concerns with this.

    The first being if some states are going to try to use this against any kids charged with being child sex offenders, like several states have done with teenagers who have sex with each other (or have nude pictures of each other).

    An additional concern is obviously conservatives trying to use this against trans people and drag queens, whom they are already trying to define as sex offenders just for existing in public.

    Another concern or just question is...is this meant to be a deterrent? And is it even effective in that? For a lot of child sex offenders, a major component of the pleasure derived is from having power over the child in question. Removing their genitals wouldn't necessarily change that? It's possible it may even have them turn more to violence toward children as their outlet.

    I'm just wondering on the effectiveness of this method. Is there any evidence at all or is this being done on an emotional whim?

    jeffw,

    Evidence? GOP crime deterrents? lol

    vividspecter,

    It also has the same issue as the death penalty, where once the punishment is enacted, it can’t be undone based on new evidence.

    hoshikarakitaridia,
    @hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

    This is the most legally sound argument against it.

    Sure it’s bad to diddle kids, but it’s even worse to not have diddled kids, be accused and falsely convicted, have you genitals removed, and then on appeals the court is like “yeah sry bro they fucked that up, just reverse it”.

    Although a lot of people think the death penalty is bad for financial or logistical reasons, but in my opinion the biggest reason against it is that there’s no quick way to revive a person when a court later on says they got it wrong.

    LodeMike,

    Oh SURGICALLY. Yeah that’s fucked up.

    foggy,

    Impotent rapists still penetrate. 🗡️

    Eatspancakes84,

    This is a punishment that simply cannot be enacted. Any doctor that participates violates his Hippocratic oath.

    jonne,

    I’m sure they’ll find someone. You only need to have one in the state.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
    @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

    John Oliver showed me they'll probably just call in a vet.

    Maybe get some farmer with castration bands.

    Deceptichum, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality
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    The clergy’s looking worried.

    JimSamtanko,

    They’re completely safe. What are you talking about? No one goes after the religious.

    FiniteBanjo, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    Why not Chemical Castration? The state’s ability to decide who is and is not an offender aside, surgical castration seems pointless and ineffective.

    kitnaht,

    Surgical castration is quite effective. It removes the ovaries/testes which produce testosterone/estrogen. Problem is, from that point on, you probably need to take supplements, because I’m no doctor but I think you need those hormones for proper bone density control, etc.

    FiniteBanjo,

    I used to think so, too, but it turns out castrated monks and other animals have a lot of data implying they live even longer. I still think Chemical Castration would be better, though.

    rand_alpha19,

    Living longer doesn't necessarily mean that your bones are healthy. Osteoporosis is much more likely without adequate sex hormone production.

    PolarisFx,
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    I have a genetic condition that severely limits testosterone production. Didn’t find out until I was almost 40, my health hasn’t been terrible. Mental health is a different story.

    I’ve spent the majority of my life “castrated” and it hasn’t been all that bad, that being said I still had urges even with pretty much zero testosterone so I question whether it will do anything to prevent abuse.

    jeffw, to politics in Controversial law to surgically castrate child sex offenders in Louisiana could soon be reality

    Next week in a totally unrelated news story: Louisiana to charge LGBTQ adults as sex offenders when they come within 100 feet of children

    saltesc,

    Works out well for anyone looking to fully transition but can’t afford that phase of surgery. Louisiana wondering why all these out of state people hanging around their schools suddenly.

    Norgur,

    Further underlines the baffling failure to understand about anything related to what experts call “humans” by the GOP.

    JimSamtanko,

    This is precisely what they’re doing.

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