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YMS, to technology in Swedish criminal gangs using fake Spotify streams to launder money
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This article has been shared a lot when it was published a month ago.

sabreW4K3, to technology in Swedish criminal gangs using fake Spotify streams to launder money
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This seems like FUD. It’s weird.

willya, to games in Shell called out for promoting fossil fuels to youth via Fortnite game
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Do most of these kids parents not go to the gas station 1-2 times a week? Last I checked the pumps are always still loaded with people. I highly doubt a fucking shell sweepstakes in Fortnite is causing harm.

spacecowboy,

Do we really need to explain why an oil company trying to cozy up to the younger generation is a bad thing? Really…?

Chozo,

Apparently so.

willya,
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No but thinking this is somehow indoctrinating kids is hilarious.

my_hat_stinks,

Okay, so what are they trying to do then?

Sethayy,

Then describe the innocent reason for adding a gas company in a video game? Like it doesn’t fit in universe at all, but arguably does have an indoctrining effect

Albbi,

Then why do you think Shell prompted these streams?

sugar_in_your_tea,

So they’d tell their parents to fill up at Shell instead of Chevron or whatever. It’s not like kids are going to want more fossil fuels, they’ll just want to shop at the cool brand instead of the less cool brand.

zaph,

Lmfao

navi,
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Lots of them plug in at home and never have to go to a shitty, ad filled, long as line, price gauged pump again 😎

willya,
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I’m one of those people, but sitting here acting like the majority of the country is doing that just shows that people are living in a bubble.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Yeah, I’m a parent and I take my kids with me to the gas pump quite often. We shop at Costco and fill up before or after. I honestly don’t see an issue at all, my kids know gas pollutes (I tell them frequently even though they’re in elementary school), and they know why I continue to buy gas (EVs are too expensive, inconvenient for longer trips, and have a fire hazard).

So no, I don’t have a problem with fossil fuels being a thing in games. I do have a problem with advertisements in games generally, and ads marketed to kids specifically. So if this was an ad for a socially acceptable business (take your pick), I’d still be opposed. Keep that nonsense away from my kids.

can,

I’m so thankful pumps don’t play ads where I’m from.

Nacktmull,
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Then you are so naive that it´s almost unbelievable.

MomoTimeToDie,

1-2 times a week? Are these people just doing fucking burnouts in a 1970 truck or something every day?

Kolgeirr,

For a second there I felt called out, but my gas guzzling burnout truck is from the 90s 👍

Kernal64, to games in Shell called out for promoting fossil fuels to youth via Fortnite game

Feels like Epic should shoulder some of the blame here as well, considering they allowed the fossil fuel company in the game at all. Fuck both of these companies.

Unaware7013,

Epic is just full of bad decisions, they just had to find one that isn't a money pit like their store or bought exclusives.

wahming, to technology in Swedish criminal gangs using fake Spotify streams to launder money

This is such nonsense. The gangs would be losing something like 90% or more of their money in the process. The only ‘proof’ stated in the article is a bunch of unverified claims by anonymous sources.

Hirom,

This scheme doesn’t sound very plausible indeed, given the low payout artists get from Spotify.

Or maybe these gangs are just experimenting new ways to launder money, and haven’t figured it out yet.

wim, to technology in Swedish criminal gangs using fake Spotify streams to launder money

Given how little spotify gives to artists, I can’t imagine this being a cost effective way to launder your money at all.

coffeejunky,

Also with an app you just buy it. If the app is like 10 euros that’s pretty fast. But with Spotify you need to listen to streams for hours and hours, it’s fucking slow.

abhibeckert,

I’m pretty sure nobody is actually listening to the songs… they would just be playing them in an empty room. Probably with a bunch of devices playing the songs at once.

coffeejunky,

I understand, but even than playing a song is much more effort (time consuming) than buying an app. It’s just super inefficiënt.

KidDogDad, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect

Wow! Maybe this was naive, but I wasn’t expecting this to get so much controversy and downvotes. I’ll post a few thoughts here FWIW.

  1. I see a lot of comments in here that remind me a lot of this New Yorker cover. As with any other country, there’s lots of different types of people in China with lots of differing opinions, but some comments in here feel like they’re casting all of China as a monolith. I should probably know better than to expect nuance on the internet, but the amount of opinions in here that were expressed as if they were total undeniable truth was still kind of annoying.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/28ff7959-2469-4176-bafe-01191b7855c8.png

  1. Following up on that, the main point of the article was requesting that people not conflate the CCP w/ companies and players. No one who was born in China chose to be born there. But they still have to live their lives, find creative expression, etc. I also hate the CCP, but I was surprised to see so an article that was trying to distinguish between the CCP and ordinary Chinese people receive so many comments that just brought up the CCP.
  2. All that said, while I definitely disagree with many comments in here, I personally didn’t feel like I saw comments in here that were racist, despite what some people suggested.
  3. For me, this article made me interested in finding out what cool games might be getting made in China that aren’t being released to the West. I also found it disappointing that the article explicitly called out that lots of the cool stuff isn’t making it to the West, and yet so many comments here talked about how China hasn’t made any good games, with no acknowledgement of whether the commenter has tried anything other than a small handful of the ones that actually got translations and came over here.

Anyway, that’s it. Thanks for reading and hope you have a good day.

absentthereaper, (edited )
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If they want my time and patronage, they can learn how my community’s melanin distributes across our bodies. They can learn how to render coarse hair. They can broaden their character demographics beyond ‘what kyles are comfortable with’. Otherwise, they can fuck right off. And I haven’t seen many Eastern in general devs willing to even so much as try. Mihoyo and Square-Enix are both kinda on my shitlist right now.

Dremor, (edited ) to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect
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Hodja_Nasreddin, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect
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AmeriKKKan chauvinism is strong with this thread.

AnonTwo, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect

If a streamer pisses off china they get blacklisted from the entire Chinese game market. That's a pretty big neg for the chinese game industry.

Sure they have good games, but respect is another thing entirely.

Deestan, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect

Shout out to Dyson Sphere Program, technically impressive and gorgeous automation game with a nice sci-fi plot.

stopthatgirl7, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect
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Genshin Impact is good, and Honkai Star Rail, is sadly empty of things to go even though I like the gameplay better. There are some really good Chinese games out there, but they’re mostly on mobile and PC because the Chinese government wouldn’t allow consoles for so long, so gaming in China developed in a way that’s incompatible with how a lot of western gamers play.

Also, I’m never gonna forgive China for how dirty they did Red Candle Game’s Devotion. Or GOG for backtracking on carrying it because CDP didn’t want to risk Cyberpunk not being sold in China, and giving a complete bs excuse for why.

TheLordHumungus, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect

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  • Omega_Haxors,

    And there it is.

    TheLordHumungus,

    I am not a fan of the CCP or Winnie the pooh. They are committing genocide… call me what you want, I have no issue with the Chinese people only the ones on charge of the government. Bit keep simping for the authoritarian murders to virtue signal.

    Hodja_Nasreddin,
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    “authoritarian murders” because of maintaining their independence and stop American billionaires from looting their country, lol. You are brainwashed by your shitty fascist american goverment.

    TheLordHumungus,

    Ok CCP simp. Go suck of Winnie the Pooh elsewhere.

    Hodja_Nasreddin,
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    You are delusional zombie, lol. Tibet already free unlike Europe, which is under NATO occupation or Native Americans/People of colour in the United States.

    TheLordHumungus,

    Ok bro, keep sucking off Winnie the Pooh

    Hodja_Nasreddin,
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    Keep sucking off western capitalists and war criminals, reddit chauvinist

    TheLordHumungus,

    Okay bud

    mrbubblesort,
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    Yes, there it is, as it should be.

    I say this as a man with a wife from Beijing and a son that holds a Chinese passport: Fuck the CCP

    Callie,
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    Absolutely! Fuck the Chinese government in its entirety

    Korkki, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect

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  • Zorque,

    But what about ism?

    rikudou,

    I think you’ve accidentally switched from your lemmygrad account to your for-conversations-with-normal-people alt.

    absentthereaper,
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    Just crackers being crackers; don’t even waste your breath on them.

    Nefyedardu,

    I fucking love it, tells me exactly who to block so I never have to see CCP shill posts ever again :) Go fuck yourself and your genocidal regime

    absentthereaper,
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    I can’t wait to watch your country collapse.

    Silverseren, to games in Chinese video games are on the rise, but I wish they got more respect

    I mean, Genshin Impact is an outlier in games out of China. A lot of the games, even the big budget ones, from developers there are freemium or gacha trash (and Genshin only minorly avoids that by having a decent story and gameplay).

    The first step would be to produce proper single player games that aren't reliant on a paid store model. There are some examples of that, but they're incredibly rare.

    xep,

    Isn't Genshin Impact also a gacha game?

    Silverseren,

    As I said, it only minorly avoids the fate of other gacha games by actually having effort put into its story and gameplay.

    stardust,

    It’s the first gacha game I tried and it is good, but the presentation of rolls for items and characters made me understand how people can get addicted to it. People can choose to ignore spending money on it, but the free rolls is an effective lure for the types that can fall into the deep end.

    Still would not want to see any regulation of it though, since it being regulated would be a move towards handing over real identities to companies to manage which is terrible. I do wish it was just a regular game with DLC expansions than at its core a gacha game.

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