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RobotToaster, to technology in Raspberry Pi is now a public company
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

I’m surprised it lasted this long. It was always kinda just a marketing gimmick for broadcom that got out of hand.

caseyweederman,

Huh! I didn’t realize that. It was a cool product.

originalucifer, to technology in Raspberry Pi is now a public company
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

is this the 'jumped the shark' moment for companies? as soon as they go 'public' you can no longer assume their product is their priority.

Aggravationstation,

Exactly. I’m not worried though. There are so many alternatives these days.

some_guy,

I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn’t have time or energy to follow up. I’ve recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I’ve quite interested. I’d read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven’t ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment?

Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I’m looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread.

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Would be really nice to name them when posting such a comment…

XTL,

Here’s one nice list which also reflects the status of their usefulness. Physical availability varies widely, though.

www.armbian.com/download/

VinesNFluff,
@VinesNFluff@pawb.social avatar

Yes

You can expect them to drop at maybe one more good product, as going public is what companies do when they want to raise a lot of funds for some project

But after THAT, when it turns out that the new product is just… Making money instead of making ALL the money, the investors will take over and from then on it’s fucked.

But yeah RPi has alternatives now. No need to tie yourself to them when they DO sink.

some_guy,

I ordered a BananaPi board years ago but then life took me places where I didn’t have time or energy to follow up. I’ve recently rejoined the hobbyist homelab market, so I’ve quite interested. I’d read that drivers could be an issue with non-Pi boards but haven’t ever found out. Which boards / companies are recommendation-worthy at the moment?

Asking twice because two people had similar replies and I’m looking for feedback, not because I want to spam the thread.

Zworf,

The question is always: What do you want to use it for?

When raspberry started the landscape was very difficult. Small computer boards were expensive, now there’s the N100 if you need a tiny cheap computer. Microcontrollers were really dumb and unconnected, now there’s the ESP32 which has WiFi and Bluetooth and decent performance. Right in the middle of this wide spectrum is the raspberry pi and its clones.

This is a very different situation than in the introduction era where PCs were heavy and expensive and microcontrollers were dumb. There was a much wider niche for the raspberry then. For a small server I would now get a $100 N100 from aliexpress. For embedded electronics I would grab a $10 ESP32. Only in the middle is the raspberry pi, but the problem is, it’s only in the middle in terms of performance, not price. A raspberry pi with case, PSU, storage etc costs more than a decked out N100, while actually being slower.

The only remaining usecase I see for a pi 5 would be an electronics project where you need some more compute than a microcontroller can provide, like some machine vision project. Otherwise:

  • Do you want to make some electronics IoT thingy: Get an ESP32
  • Do you want a small light computer or server: Get an N100
Kichae,

Ad soon as they go public, their product is their share price. And even before then, since most growing private companies seek out private investment long before going public.

PersonalDevKit,

Legally the product is no longer their priority, maximising shareholder profits is their priority.

Not many companies manage to not get twisted to a worse product for the customers, though their ads get really good

originalucifer,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

really sounds like the stock market is just human greed distilled and removed from all direct responsibility.

i cant understand how anyone can defend it. it is a cancer

owatnext, to politics in Misinformation works, and a handful of social 'supersharers' sent 80% of it in 2020
@owatnext@lemmy.world avatar

I bet my MIL is one of 'em lmao.

JaymesRS, to politics in Misinformation works, and a handful of social 'supersharers' sent 80% of it in 2020
Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Good news! If you can get the person you wish to punch to get one of those haptic feedback vests, wear it on their face, and then meet them in a compatible game like Pavlov VR, you can punch them in the face over TCP/IP! 😃

riskable, to politics in Misinformation works, and a handful of social 'supersharers' sent 80% of it in 2020
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

I can’t help but wonder if it’s 80% from old, Republican women because there just aren’t as many old, Republican men. They don’t live as long as Democrats:

bmj.com/…/study-finds-widening-gap-in-death-rates…

(Yes, it’s true: Republicans policies and lifestyles literally result in more unnecessary/early deaths… It’s right there)

Or it could be that old, Republican men still haven’t figured out how to copy & paste a URL or use the share/retweet buttons 🤷

vaultdweller013,

In my experience old Republican men generally have some hobbies, in my area it tends to be hot rodding. But old Republican women not so much, so they end up playing shitty facebook games and posting shit.

cmbabul,

I think it’s more that old republican men don’t like the internet, just going off my dad and his age group at the church I grew up in they all think it’s a waste of time or a communist plot. For reference these men are in their late 60s

barsquid,

It has certainly been a massive waste of time for me, I see where they are coming from there TBH.

cmbabul,

You ain’t wrong, but these same guys still pay their bills with checks in the mail so I don’t think I’m gonna give them much credit on that point

vaultdweller013,

It may vary by region as well. Most old dudes in my area arent all that religious unless their Mormons or some shit, they just want to do their own things.

aniki, to politics in Misinformation works, and a handful of social 'supersharers' sent 80% of it in 2020

Just go look at all the tankie fake news yugthos posts over on lemmygrad.ml for a taste of how that works with Lemmy.

ZeroCool,
@ZeroCool@vger.social avatar

Yep, lemmy isn’t even immune to it. There’s only something like 34k MAU on this side of the fediverse yet we’re still under a constant barrage of misinformation. politics@lemmy.world isn’t any better than reddit’s r/politics in that regard. The mods here, if I’m being generous with my interpretation, labor under the same misguided sense of “impartiality” that allows misinformation to thrive there.

We’ve got one user posting anti-Biden nonsense 24/7 while tossing in just enough “actual” news for plausible deniability… And it works. I don’t even have to name any names, if you’ve been on lemmy for the last year and paying attention to political subs, I guarantee you already know who I’m referring to.

KevonLooney,

Lol. Just block Ozma already. I did and I don’t miss it.

ZeroCool,
@ZeroCool@vger.social avatar

Oh I did that months ago. But I’m not gonna shy away from calling out active propagandists spreading misinformation and the mods for allowing it.

rimu,
@rimu@piefed.social avatar

Both those guys are banned instance-wide on the instance I run.

Disinfo research was a hobby of mine for a few years so I have zero tolerance for it.

Cracks_InTheWalls, (edited )
@Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

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  • rimu,
    @rimu@piefed.social avatar

    IMO getting a bit into the psychology of why people want to believe this crap is pretty key. Narcissism, cognitive bias...

    Check this out https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon. Go into the 'sources' folder and start clicking around. A lot of the disinfo sites are in separate files but https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/sources/default.txt contains most of them in a big disorganized pile.

    Also take a look at https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/ to understand the human cost at the individual & family level.

    Google "Alt-right pipeline" to learn about how they've intentionally crafted a radicalization process. Also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g.

    Cracks_InTheWalls,
    @Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Thanks man! This is helpful.

    When we talked last, I was talking about the social aspects (crudely understood) of it all - have general mistrust of experts, poor life situation, feelings of, or acutal, social isolation -> find people who seem to have a privileged knowledge others don’t that you agree with, make them your tribe -> have a position in a social group, slowly introducing you to more and more outlandish ideas -> repeat points to recruit others to the tribe and signal social value to said.

    So agree totally with learning about how this stuff works from psychology and human weakness POV being a vital starting point. Appreciate it!

    rimu,
    @rimu@piefed.social avatar

    Yeah that's pretty much it. Then that gets amplified by recommendation algorithms and toxic social media ecosystems, of course.

    givesomefucks, to politics in Misinformation works, and a handful of social 'supersharers' sent 80% of it in 2020

    A pair of studies published Thursday in the journal Science offers evidence not only that misinformation on social media changes minds, but that a small group of committed “supersharers,” predominately older Republican women, were responsible for the vast majority of the “fake news” in the period looked at

    Fucking Karens…

    They’re traced it back to a little over 2,000 registered US voters, but about 1/20 Americans followed at least one of them on social media?

    That’s insane, I figured there’d be more Kenvin Bacons in there rather than that many directly following the most popular misinformation spreaders.

    Scolding0513, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

    Why has proton written somewhere exactly what data can be handed over to police? if there is, they need to be promoting this information more

    Railcar8095,

    proton.me/legal/law-enforcement

    They never said they will fight law enforcement, this is the 1000th time this happens.

    AnAnonymous, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

    OpSec fail, never ever use any personal info when you are dealing with something you don’t want to be indentified for, it include obviously recovery emails, usernames and passwords.

    SolarPunker, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

    Do not trust companies.

    Lettuceeatlettuce, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch
    @Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

    Obligatory reminder:

    Email is not a secure medium! If you need truly secure and/or anonymous communications, DON’T USE EMAIL!

    Use a platform/protocol designed from the ground up for those things!

    schwim, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

    “Proton does not require a recovery address, but in this case the terror suspect added one on their own. We cannot encrypt this data as we need to be able to send an email to that address if the terror suspect wishes to initiate the recovery process,…"

    I love that proton kept referring to the user as the “terror suspect” repeatedly so we would know they’re really the good guy here.

    ryannathans,

    Well it was anti terror laws that were invoked…

    lemmyreader,

    Exactly. What makes this a bit complicated and maybe interesting from a historical point of view is that this is about Spain. A country which has been very slow with removing some of the “relics” from the fascist Franco era (Franco died in 1975) and at the same time having regions that long for independence like Basque country and Catalunya (and the post topic is related to that, Catalunya aiming for independence). Since the Twin Towers attacks in 2001 the words “terror suspect” and “terrorists” have been used much more often (also by ordinary “normies” people that I knew) and maybe not always rightly so.

    schwim,

    Thanks very much for the clarification to the context, I really appreciate it as someone who had no idea.

    lemmyreader,

    You’re welcome.

    homesweethomeMrL, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

    If you sign up for a service using real information that can be traced to you (as in this case: home address, personal email) and then do illegal* things with the account, don’t.

    The * here is that what the alleged protester allegedly did or said is irrelevant. And the article is pretty clickbaity, unless the author was unaware of how online accounts work.

    SecurityPro, to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch
    @SecurityPro@lemmy.ml avatar

    “helped” is very misleading. Companies can’t refuse to provide information they have when served a search warrant / court order. These companies DID NOT choose to provide the info on their own.

    lemmyreader,

    “helped” is very misleading. Companies can’t refuse to provide information they have when served a search warrant / court order. These companies DID NOT choose to provide the info on their own.

    You are suggesting all these companies are completely helpless against legal requests. That is not correct. A company should first make clear that the legal request is actually completely legitimate and correct. After that they can look at whether they should provide the information or not.

    See the data here :

    SecurityPro,
    @SecurityPro@lemmy.ml avatar

    As someone who has worked fraud and online investigations, and both written and served search warrants; it is not an option. A probable cause affidavit is presented to a judge and if the judge agrees there is sufficient probable cause, a search warrant is issued. This is an order by the judge and not optional. The judge can hold the company in contempt if they refuse to obey his/her order.

    Deckweiss, (edited )

    Read the blog by the guy behind cock.li , he refused multiple illegitimate warrants so far.

    What matters is the jurisdiction of the service, not the one of the warrant author, otherwise china would have already warranted all data of all other world citizens lol

    Railcar8095,

    Proton complies with Swiss law, and has to be channeled through Swiss official channels who rely the request.

    So there’s jurisdiction.

    Deckweiss, (edited )

    That is true. But I wasn’t debating about this specific case, but rather the generalized statement.

    The comment I replied to implies “If there is a warrant, it is always legitimate and you have to follow it, because a lawyer said so”. That is not true and if it were the world would quickly go to shit, which I pointed out.

    Railcar8095,

    I would say your interpretation was a bit extreme. Nobody implied a warrant from anywhere in the world.

    Deckweiss, (edited )

    Again, it doesn’t matter where the warrant fomes from. What matters is where it goes to.

    And that detail is pretty important, while being completely left out. They say:

    it is not an option.

    But yes it is, depending on the jurisdiction.

    refalo,

    Are you suggesting they didn’t do those things? Good info either way.

    Also there IS another alternative, the lavabit way… just go out of business /s

    brunchyvirus,

    There is a great talk from the Lavabit CEO who discusses what happened to him and his company when they found out Snowden had an email at his company. I won't link it since it's YouTube but it's an hour long but he talks about his experience with the FBI and the courts. You can search for M3AAWG 2014 Keynote, I highly recommend it.

    lemmyreader,

    👍 Here’s a written piece from Lavabit founder : theguardian.com/…/why-did-lavabit-shut-down-snowd…

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    A company should first make clear that the legal request is actually completely legitimate and correct.

    What makes you think they didn’t do that?

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    Yep, also using “requests” when they were not at all, they were demands.

    otter,

    Yep, which I think is why it’s more important to see what data is being collected and stored, rather than giving up data based on how trustworthy an entity seems

    If the tool doesn’t collect or log the data to begin with, then there’s nothing that can be stolen/taken/demanded

    The solution in this case might be for Proton (and the other companies) to list out risks and data collection information along the way.

    We need X in order to do Y. Read more on how Y works. Now here are some risks, and how to avoid them:

    Upstream7564, (edited ) to privacy in Encrypted services Apple, Proton and Wire helped Spanish police identify activist | TechCrunch

    I think it’s not the services fault that people aren’t aware of the limits of encrypted services. They are not going to shut everythin’ down just for a few people, if you need smth anonymous Proton is not for you.

    Also, it’s your task to have good opsec. If you give your iCloud email to Proton which has personal information sticked to it, your fault.

    mumblerfish,

    Lavabit did, back in the day.

    Upstream7564,
    Fetus,

    Back in the day.

    This makes me feel old.

    EngineerGaming,
    @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl avatar

    I do not blame Proton for complying with a request - it is a completely expected action from a company. However, I would blame them for advertising that makes them seem safer than they are for people who don’t know better.

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    I would blame them for advertising that makes them seem safer than they are

    What kind of advertising are you referring to exactly?

    refalo,

    They are not going to shut everythin’ down just for a few people

    Although lavabit did…

    Upstream7564,

    You can’t compare Lavabit to Proton.

    And you can’t compare urself to Edward Snowden.

    ReversalHatchery,

    if you need smth anonymous Proton is not for you.

    Oh it is for you, but you have to be careful. Proton won’t try to find out info you didn’t give them, but they can’t pretend that they don’t have info that they actually have. They run an onion service, and account recovery is made possible without a recovery contact.

    N0x0n,

    Imagine talking about opsec and iCloud in the same sentence 🫣🤭

    helenslunch,
    @helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

    if you need smth anonymous Proton is not for you.

    I mean, there are better options, but you can also use Proton anonymously. Just have to use it appropriately. If you use it to send your name to the FBI, there ain’t nothin Proton can do about that. Same if you link a recovery email linked to a personal account.

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