Dabundis,

Don’t remember where I heard it first, but I always love to hear it.

“Whenever someone brings up bikes, suddenly everyone needs to move their refrigerator 100 miles in the rain”

RGB3x3,

The solution? Rental vans…

It’s like people think they need mega trucks for the time once a year or less that they have to move a couch.

“But what about when I have to haul wood for my yearly porch renovation?”

“Rent a fucking truck!”

Tar_alcaran,

Have it delivered by the people selling you the wood.

freebee,

“That’s so expensive!”, having big goods delivered costs a fraction of maintaining your own car…

InevitableWaffles,
@InevitableWaffles@midwest.social avatar

In this vein, I saw a comment on Lemmy that speaks to this. I’m paraphrasing but it really woke me up. The person said that Americans choose on edge cases and not standard use case. I realized I felt that way about ICE cars vs EV and I am a cyclist. It is amazing how we can have blinders on.

TwigletSparkle,

or hitch a trailer…

Annoyed_Crabby,

It’s weird because all, and i mean ALL, furniture and electronic shop in my country will do delivery for you, most even do it for FREE.

Then there’s 3rd party delivery service via an app.

VonReposti,

I’m gonna steal that.

frunch,

You’re living up to your name, lol 😉

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

How often does one need to transport a sofa, table, or desk? That’s what delivery trucks are for, which is a legitimate use of that type of transportation.

The drugstore cowboys driving Dodge Rams clogging up the streets aren’t transporting anything more robust than a 12-pack of Mtn Dew and complaining about the price of gas

CosmicTurtle0,

Oddly enough, the discussion is never on the other side.

“WHY DO YOU NEED BIKE LANES?! NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO RIDE A BIKE! JUST DRIVE!”

oo1,

I'd gladly remove every car from the roads that is not carrying a sofa, table or desk.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

I’m even willing to add “large amounts of water & a big ladder, or sick/injured people” to that list.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

They already move an entire sofa, audiovisual center and HVAC.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Yea, car congestion isn’t about industrial transport, it’s about personal transport. All of the people commuting to/from work etc in single person occupied tanks.

z3rOR0ne,
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar
Gormadt,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Holy leg day

That’s awesome

EldritchFeminity,

TIL driving to and from work is “recreational” unless you have a TV or something in the back of your car.

Artyom,

He didn’t make it to the second semester of high school economics where he would have learned that labor is a service.

caboose2006,

The bike in front literally has shopping bags hanging from the handles. Fucking clown take

pleb_maximus,

And also someone sitting on the back of the bike.

sunbytes,

Skill issue.

The Dutch absolutely use bikes to carry goods.

I’ve seen people with TVs on their bike. I’ve seen them with multiple crates of beer on the handlebars (kingsnight).

I saw three people on one (regular) bike.

Also these:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a44d9bf5-1b60-4c14-ae71-dc281e52cf8a.webp

MoonRaven,
@MoonRaven@feddit.nl avatar

Yup and if we really NEED to transport big things, sure, we might need a van. But that’s probably a once every once every year thing max.

TwanHE,

You can stack at least 3 crates on the back of the bike if you have a bag carrier, 2 otherwise. Then 1 or 2 on the bar between your legs, and 1 on the steering bar, or 2 if you also have a bag carrier there.

Ebike recommended if they’re full, but it’s way doable when bringing them back to the store.

SpacetimeMachine,

I’m sure that works well where it’s flat. Try that in a city with tons of hills and you’re gonna have a much harder time.

sunbytes,

Ebikes can take a lot of the pain out of that. They’re very powerful now.

freebee,

And most cities are very flat.

Sir_Fridge,

I live in the very non flat south East of the Netherlands. We still do everything on bike. Groceries, mail, like 4 children while carrying groceries and being on the phone.

bl_r,
Tangentism,

When I used to be on twitter and in response to idiotic comments like that, I would post the video of the guy cycling with a fridge on his back, one of someone moving a piano, several tradesmen that quit their vans to use cargo bikes, the pedal cab company in London (proper cargo bikes not the shitty tourist things) and the mother of 6 from Portland that had a cargo bike to take them all to school.

It used to shut them up

Olhonestjim,

“Well I don’t want to bike with a fridge on my back!”

“Oh I was never suggesting you could.”

Tangentism,

No, I was definitely suggesting you could but could you? Especially people like the person who made the half literate other reply

Olhonestjim,

I was intending more like reverse psychology. “I’ll show you!” That kind of thing.

I get how I might not have said that well enough though.

Tangentism,

It’s really hard to convey certain subtleties in text. It’s all good!

saigot,

With a 3 wheeler it’s not really hard unless there is a hill or you have to dodge cars.

Jarix,

You are av ducking idiot if you are moving fridges on your bicycle

Tangentism,

You’re a fucking idiot if you think roads were only built for the transportation of goods & services as they were superceded by canals then by railways.

It was a massive step backwards in inefficiency in an orchestrated move by vehicle manufacturers that freight was shifted back to roads.

And the guys (yes, more than one) carrying fridges on their shoulders while cycling, have more fucking balls than you’ll ever dream of having.

andrew0,
@andrew0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That person clearly hasn’t witnessed Dutch students carrying a whole bedroom on the back of their bike.

BastingChemina,

Moving out a whole apartment with bikes : youtu.be/qCraLSgVx6E?si=x_UZpk--c5Kkdgcu

merthyr1831,

These morons are insufferable because they don’t believe anything exists outside the frame of the photo. they have worse object permanence to babies

sunbytes,

Yeah. That building is probably an office block.

And those guys usually have loading/unloading areas in the back (if not an actual car park).

Sir_Fridge,

The right building is a clothing store. There are indeed often back entrances for smaller vans for supplies

arymandias,

Having lived in Utrecht, yes all those stores in the picture, completely empty, also all the people on bikes are happy to finally have the chance to sit after spending their day in a house without furniture.

Alk,

Clearly they’re not bringing the goods, they’re bringing the services. That clown even said it himself. Refers to goods and services then only talks about the goods.

FleetingTit,

Also many pedestrianized streets allow for deliveries with larger vehicles! These just have to drive more carefully and slower for the last couple hundred meters. Usually just a city block or two.

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