Cosmicomical,

I now understand the feeling of cultural appropriation. I’m atheist but I grew up catholic and that depiction of jesus is culturally inappropriate

Gonzako,

yeah, he’d be wearing the popes flag otherwise it’d be historically innacurate

Cosmicomical,

Lol

TwoBeeSan,

What do you mean? Jeff Bridges Jesus barbecued for your sins.

Blackmist,

I was getting more of a Jesse Ventura vibe.

rickyrigatoni,

no less appropriate than the pasty italian twink usually depicted, to be fair

Melvin_Ferd,

The left/liberal/Democrat voters aren’t going to use this perfectly good lay up to troll the right with symbolism like this or the obvious throw their opponents views back at them. Too much work. They will instead take the opportunity to miss their shot and shit on people they think are beneath them, like Jesus.

DaBabyAteMaDingo,

Idkwtf you’re talking about but I think I agree

Crashumbc,

You can’t shit on a fictional character. Just a fYI

retrospectology,
@retrospectology@lemmy.world avatar

Isn’t this meme throwing their rhetoric back at them though? It highlights how absurd it looks when they make this crazy religious political rhetoric that makes a criminal out to be some “godly” man.

This cynical use of religion is a pretty good satirization of what right-wingers do.

Fades,

The man bought a gun and owned it for like 9 days many years ago around the same time he was filming himself on drugs. Every gun owner in a state that buy legal cannabis in any fashion would be guilty of the same thing. It’s just a bad law because you can be an alcoholic (which is a drug, hence a drug addict, hence requiring those to lie on the form) with as many guns as you want.

Dasus,

Or idk, perhaps try to keep guns away from any substance abusers, be the substance they abuse legal or not.

But that’s specifically abuse I’m talking about, not reasonable recreational use.

Shapillon,

Is it possible to define specifically abuse?

Dasus,

Of course it is.

But preventing abusers from getting guns is much easier in a system where the default is not “until proven crazy, anyone can have a gun”.

So where I live you need a doctor’s note saying you don’t have issues like that before getting a gun.

Ofc you can develop the problem after getting the permits, but I know a few gun owners who developed an alcohol problem and one so massive they started being violent towards others when properly pissed.

Both had their guns taken away.

ArcaneSlime,

Actually question “21. f” on ATF form 4473 is:


<span style="color:#323232;">Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
</span><span style="color:#323232;">Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized
</span><span style="color:#323232;">for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.
</span>

So “yes, and alcoholics too, technically. Alcohol is a depressant.”

Thing is unless you’ve got prior convictions or get caught with both the gun and a substance, or try to buy the gun while obviously fucked up on something, it’s kinda hard to catch.

I suppose if you film yourself on drugs and then forget to go “no that wasn’t real drugs, it’s fake” like how they filmed Nice Dreams and didn’t get arrested for the weed, and then people put a political target on your back, then yeah that might get you caught too.

Also it’s a dumb rule and should be stricken from the form. Especially weed FFS, which also should be legal.

Shapillon,

Are you sure about this? My English may be a bit rusty but doesn’t the “or any other controlled substance” imply that only controlled depressants count?

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean, alcohol is controlled, otherwise there wouldn’t be a legal drinking age, or consequences for driving drunk, one might argue.

octopus_ink,

One might, but that’s not the definition of controlled substance in this context.

healthline.com/…/what-is-a-controlled-substance

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

I know, I was making a devil’s advocate argument.

octopus_ink,

Sorry, I’m too literal sometimes.

SturgiesYrFase,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

All good dude 👍

ArcaneSlime,

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant

Alcohol being a depressant, it could be argued that “or addicted to any depressant” would be the more applicable part of the question, controlled or not.

GiveMemes,

So then gun owners can’t drink coffee?

ArcaneSlime,

Right? Another example of why I hate this stupid question lol

Kazumara,

To me it reads like the author forgot there were depressants and stimulants that are not controlled. But I wouldn’t take that as a sign that the sentence only applies to the subset of controlled depressants or stimulants.

dejected_warp_core,

I am not a lawyer.

I did some rapid web searches to dig in here because I was curious about how this might be abused. It turns out that is better worded than it would at first appear. I think the trick here is it depends on whose definition of “depressant, stimulant, narcotic” you go by.

For example, the CDC considers caffeine a stimulant, but the FDA says it’s a “food additive”. So there’s no FDA schedule for caffeine, which means you also can’t get a prescription for caffeine pills, nor pay for them through insurance. But that also means it’s arguably not a drug or “stimulant” under this definition.

Meanwhile, alcohol labeling is handled by the FDA, but it looks like everything about the substance itself falls under the ATF (it’s in the name after all). The ATF seems to take great care to not categorize alcohol as a depressant and goes out of its way to never call alcohol a “drug” (example). And, as it turns out, (Federally) alcohol is not a controlled substance.

ArcaneSlime,

Interesting, of course, I still think the law is dumb especially regarding weed, but you may be right they have it carved out as an exception with booze/caffeine. I wonder what would happen in court on a case like that, who’s definition would be used, or could it possibly be argued based off the definitions and it’d be the case that sets a precedent.

juice702,

Jesus was a true American!

Fades,

No but his supply-side clone is

MockingMoniker,

Hunter was probably used by his dysfunctional family with his drug addiction.

irreticent,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, I’ll bite… how was he being used and why?

MockingMoniker,

Dysfunctional family stuff.

irreticent,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

Care to elaborate?

octopus_ink,

Of course they don’t.

Monument,

Wait. Are the Trump folks sharing those memes because they’re so stupid they’re funny?

I guess I’ve always found Trump so offputting and taken white nationalist christian fascism so seriously that I never considered those to be shitposts.

Cqrd,

No, they legit believe them - or want others to in the case of Russian trolls

DragonTypeWyvern,

There are for sure irony appreciators in there

shalafi,

That’s honestly he most disturbing picture of Jesus I’ve ever seen. Visceral disgust kinda reaction.

Like a poor, scrawny carpenter was some ripped American meatball. Fuck me, I’m an atheist and this is gross.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

That’s because he’s wearing an American flag and as a nation founded under God like it says in the pledge of allegiance and on our money, and you godless atheists are sickened by the true meaning of our nation. /s

EncryptKeeper,

My favorite part about that nonsense is that until 1954-55 God didn’t appear either in the pledge of allegiance or on our money. You can bet your bottom dollar if you took that line out of the pledge though conservatives would have a fit over “Woke revisionism” even though it itself is a revision.

rickyrigatoni,

In what world are carpenters scrawny.

nova_ad_vitum,

In worlds where they can barely survive doing carpentry.

rickyrigatoni,

Man literally had a dupe glitch for bread and fish.

pyre,

so he didn’t need muscles to do anything

DragonTypeWyvern,

He pursues gains for the sake of gains. Your heresy against Swole Jesus is understandable, but misguided.

VelvetStorm,

And in what world is that? Everyone needs chairs, houses(of some sort), tools, utensils … ect. I can’t imagine a world or a time period where people who made the stuff everyone else needs didn’t just survive but thrive.

frezik,

He probably was jacked. Being a carpenter back then meant going into a forest, cutting down a tree, and hauling it out of there.

BowtiesAreCool,

Except he wasn’t a “carpenter” in the sense that we think of it. He wasn’t a woodworker building tall tables and chairs. The translation would be more accurate as “builder” or “construction worker”. Would still be in good shape, but nothing out of the ordinary.

frezik,

In other words, jacked because he had to go into a forest and cut down his own tree.

pyre,

to be fair to you, technically those are other words.

GiveMemes,

You know construction workers are jacked compared to desk workers right? Like if you take a random construction worker and a random office worker, neither of which lift, the construction worker is going to tend towards both more mass overall (as it helps prevent injuries) and more muscle mass (because working out as your work tends to do a lot for your body)

Semi_Hemi_Demigod,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

They’re either built like trucks or real wiry. Though the wiry guys tend to do more climbing which might explain the difference.

corus_kt,

The swole Jesus agenda was so important you had to repeat it thrice

frezik, (edited )

Damn straight. I’ll only accept a Jesus into my heart who can bench press a camel.

Edit: and then karate kick it through the eye of a needle. (Also, my instance is having problems and I don’t know how that was posted extra times.)

Blackmist,
random_character_a,
@random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

Nazi Jesus flipping greasy burgers at fat redneck barbecue.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

That would be Supply-side Jesus.

MehBlah,

That is white christian bigot jesus. This whole post is nothing but a troll.

hasnt_seen_goonies,

This shows Jesus creating cheeseburgers which arent kosher.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Beyond burgers

hasnt_seen_goonies,

The idea of republican Jesus cooking up some beyond burgers is very funny

DragonTypeWyvern, (edited )

I mean, God VERY clearly said to take care of the planet and our fellow animals, in the introduction no less.

Zozano,

Jesus is a CHRISTIAN.

It’s in the name CHRIST!

Bgugi,

But he COMPLETED the law! Which means I can ignore all the old law that I find inconvenient. But he didn’t REPLACE the law, which means I can still criticize anything I think is yucky.

itsgroundhogdayagain,

He should resign as President now

Fades,

I am so ashamed of myself for voting for hunter biden for president 😞

helpImTrappedOnline,

Its okay, both options suck

Lucidlethargy,

Amen.

Thorry84,

Hamberder

Holyginz,

If the charges are true he should have been convicted.

cowfodder,

The joke


Your head

Holyginz,

Meh, I misunderstood. I get how what I said is dumb in retrospect. Lice and learn.

Lucidlethargy,

It was a witch hunt!!1!11!

DragonTypeWyvern,

It was. Unfortunately for Hunter, he was a witch.

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Who is that

Anyolduser,

Jesus

ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling,
@ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Thank u very hepful

Anyolduser,

At your service.

simplejack,
@simplejack@lemmy.world avatar

Wud up.

themeatbridge,

Username checks out.

While you’re here, can I as you a favor? Talk to your people. Those fuckers have been up to some bullshit.

ThePyroPython,

They ain’t his people. Christians demonstrate their faith by putting Christ’s teachings into action. These people do the opposite.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

That’s Hay-soose, not Gee-zuss.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Never go full retard.

snooggums,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

He said “Hey Zeus!”

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh shit, waddup dawg

prayer,

I’ve been trying to reach you man!

Venator,

No need to use our Lords name in vain, is he really that well known? But who is he?

lamabop,

Negan

shalafi,

I honestly wondered what Negan was doing in the pic.

Lucidlethargy,

That’s Obi Wan Kenobi.

Assman,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Jeff Bridges

NeptuneOrbit,

Biden rigged the DOJ to garner sympathy and also to punish his son for doing too much marihuana

whodatdair,

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

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