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tired_n_bored, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

His plan is sucking his master Putin’s cock!

elrik, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

Trump’s plan is to end support for Ukraine.

Rakonat, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

Same plan he made in Syria and Afghanistan. Abandon US allies in the region, hand over all local assets to hostile forces and leak intel like damn spaghetti strainer.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ordered the DoD to hanf over all the intel we have about Ukraine to Russia and withdraw all other support and recon in the area.

small44,

The USA, Iran and Russia are responsible for syrian civil war. None should have got involved in it

Rakonat,

Be as that may be, Trump absolutely selling out the Kurdish Militia that was a long time US ally in the region was not acceptable.

small44,

It doesn’t change the fact that imperial powers ruined syria

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Imperial powers created Syria. Modern Syria anyway. The entire Middle East has been an Imperial project since colonialism. Pretty much only the Saudis and Israel (and Iran, if you want to count it as Middle Eastern) aren’t on board.

Apollo42,

Of course it had nothing to do with the repressive authoritarian regime killing its own people because they had the temerity to protest.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Damn liberals are literally saying we should have stayed in Afghanistan because Trump withdrew. One of the few good things Trump did and that’s what they want to use to take the moral high-ground.

The local “American forces” were child raping pedo warlords.

Blue MAGA will support anything that’s the opposite of what Trump did.

Valmond,

When I’m not liking the thinks people say they are child raping pedo lords.

Grow up a bit will you?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

There’s video evidence and the video is linked.

Wake up a bit, will you?

That 2014 documentary explains perfectly how you have been lied to for over 6 years.

It explains everything about Afghanistan that the liberal fairy tale reality tries to hide.

ToucheGoodSir, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

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demizerone, to politics in Project 2025 Architect Signals Bloodshed If Left Opposes Trump-Led 'Revolution'

This man will get what he deserves at some point.

ripcord,
@ripcord@lemmy.world avatar

No he won’t.

deadbeef79000, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

The plan? Ukraine surrenders unconditional and in totality.

Belastend, to politics in Project 2025 Architect Signals Bloodshed If Left Opposes Trump-Led 'Revolution'

both parties are exactly the same, both parties are exactly the same, both parties are exactly the same, both parties are exactly the same

TheBigBrother, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

Yeah the plan it’s fuck Ukraine like it should be…

Moonrise2473, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

Like the far right in my country before the elections “We have the solution to fix the economy, vote for us” - without of course saying what they’re going to do.

Unfortunately, majority of people believed them

Populism works, people like to vote for someone that says what they want to listen even if it’s obvious that they’re not going to do that

Tronn4, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

It’s sucking putins dick and giving him the land already stolen from Ukraine

CharlesDarwin, to politics in Project 2025 Architect Signals Bloodshed If Left Opposes Trump-Led 'Revolution'
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This country is so fucked. Much of the culture is checked out; a lot of the left/liberal movement seem to be up its own asshole in goofy pandering that seems designed to only churn out more donnie voters, and the cons are making plans, and basically announcing them to everyone.

Also, I’ll vote Biden no matter what this fall, but the Democratic Party had better seriously consider removing him and selecting someone else. Otherwise, Biden’s chief legacy that is actually remembered will be helping to enable the dismantling of this country by being so egotistical as to think he’s the only one that could beat donnie in 2024.

nexusband,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

He doesn’t need to beat him with the latest rulings…

drbluefall,

Do you believe, in any measure, that Biden would use the power the latest rulings give him?

Even if we assume he did, what would stop the current Supreme Court from just drawing a chalk outline around the exact thing he did, calling it unofficial, and then charging him anyway?

The ruling was made to empower Trump, and those that puppeteer him. No one else.

CharlesDarwin, to politics in 'Screaming the Quiet Part': Trump Advisers Say He's Ready to Embrace King-Like Powers | Common Dreams
@CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world avatar

This is a feature for the cons. If someone thinks they can be shamed out of it, they are delusional or just extremely low-info.

PP_BOY_, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

The Ukraine War would end within a week without US support. It would take a Trump admin doing literally nothing for the war to end. That’s his plan. To do nothing.

Slotos,

Occupying a country that size doesn’t take a mere week. So no, it won’t.

RunawayFixer,

USA aid is very important to Ukraine, but even without it they would continue fighting. Ukraine has been without USA material aid for months already in the past, when the republican party was blocking it. And as it turned out, Ukraine sustained higher casualties and had less offensive power than with USA aid, but they were never close to folding.

Ukrainians + their supporting neighbours are very motivated to not be occupied by Russia, so they’re not going to just give up if Putin’s stooges come to power in the USA.

Barbarian,
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There’s also the fact that a hypothetical end to US aid wouldn’t end EU aid. It’s definitely not on the same scale as the US due to our much smaller military sector, but that’d likely change in the event of a US shut-down of aid.

In my mind, the most likely results would be:

Short-term: Very dangerous period for Ukraine, they lose some ground, lots of men (similar to the last time they had a crippling artillery shell shortage).

Medium-term: EU military sector slowly ramps up to meet demand, as about 3/4 of central & eastern EU considers this an existential war that cannot be lost at any cost.

Long-term: After the war is over (however many more years that takes), Russia finally negotiates some kind of ceasefire where they can save some face internally and brag about how they “Denazified” Ukraine while going home and accomplishing nothing, EU is much more self-sufficient and therefore buys less from the US, and they aren’t seen as a trust-worthy ally militarily anymore. Even if on paper most EU members are still in NATO, they consider the security guarantees of the EU as much more important and serious.

Kaput,

Heck, Trump declared Canada, a strategic risk during his s presidency. Just to stop steel imports. No one can consider the USA a reliable ally as long as Maga is around.

Valmond,

Crippling russian economy might lead to yo a coup, putins death or just his health declining can also lead to instability which can lead to a coup too etc. A soft coup some years down the line for example.

Sludgehammer, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'
@Sludgehammer@lemmy.world avatar

I’m guessing Trump’s plan to end the war is “Back Russia and help Putin crush Ukraine.” Because (much like Trump’s own sycophants) he doesn’t realize that he’ll the first under the bus when his master no longer needs him.

NoSuchAgency, to world in Zelenskyy: If Trump Has Plan to End the Ukraine War 'He Should Tell Us Today'

Why, so Biden can do it and take the credit?

pikmeir,

I, too, love when I get to prevent an entire country from invasion by an evil force, but only when I get to take credit for it. Someone else stealing my idea for peace is just as bad as someone else stealing a joke I said first, if not worse.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You’re talking to someone who agreed with SCOTUS’ decision allowing Trump to commit crimes, just so you know where they’re coming from.

nmhforlife,

Iran Contra anyone?

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