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JimSamtanko, to politics in 'Screaming the Quiet Part': Trump Advisers Say He's Ready to Embrace King-Like Powers | Common Dreams

Keep this in mind when you see the bots urging you not to vote against him here on lemmy. Maybe call them out for trying to destroy democracy.

And vote like lives depend on it.

grue,

Voting is the beginning of acting to defend yourself from tyranny, not the end.

jumjummy,

Absolutely, especially those idiotic accounts like respectology and givesomefucks that try and play the “I’m not voting for Biden” but Trump is also a terrible choice angle. Both Side noise for sure (or they truly are that naive and foolish).

JimSamtanko,

I think Givesomefucks might be somewhat legit. But the other one… yeah. I can’t agree more.

Ferrous,

This logic isn’t sustainable.

30 years from now you’ll still be arguing against leftists for not voting for 99% hitler as opposed to 100% hitler.

I swear, liberals will still be screeching about “if you don’t vote for the candidate who wants 3 genocides as opposed to the one who wants 5, you are a Russian bot!”

Lesser evilism is what got us here. The American experiment has run its course and we have a duty to dismantle it.

JimSamtanko,

How do you think it’ll go down when Trump is elected? Hmmm? Think held going to go easy on them? Or you?

Djtecha,

This is a bullshit argument. You want strong progressive change? Run in down races to prove the platform works first. Gain momentum instead of going for the gold ring on your first try.

BrokenGlepnir,

You can’t say lesser evilism got us here when we chose the greater evil in the election before last. If we kept voting lesser evil maybe, but we don’t consistently. Not nearly enough to make the greater evil not think they stand a chance without lessening themselves.

EnderWiggin,

I’m pretty new to Lemmy and was really hoping this wouldn’t be the same level of problem as it is everywhere else. Oh what a sweet summer child I am, apparently.

JimSamtanko,

Yeah, they’re pretty bad here.

nondescripthandle, to politics in 'Screaming the Quiet Part': Trump Advisers Say He's Ready to Embrace King-Like Powers | Common Dreams

I don’t really think it’s ‘the quiet part’ anymore if it’s been explicitly legalized. At this point its just ‘the part’ because the consolidated power is already here right now.

febra, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage

And for anyone that has been following this conflict for more than just half a year, this isn’t new. Israel has been doing this for decades now. It’s fairly normal practice for them.

lettruthout, to politics in 'Screaming the Quiet Part': Trump Advisers Say He's Ready to Embrace King-Like Powers | Common Dreams

If there’s any good in recent events it’s that Trump may be more frequently saying this quiet part out loud - thereby changing the vote of a few that otherwise weren’t paying attention.

KillerTofu,

He flat out said he was going to be a dictator. . It’s not like people weren’t listening they either don’t care or think they will be spared as long as they own the libs.

homesweethomeMrL,

He did. And the low-level supporters i know who vote republiQan in their sleep don’t “believe” it means anything. It’s beyond me. I’m so fucking horrified we’re doing this AGAIN. For fuck’s sake.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, I figured most of them want a dictator because they believe the leopards won’t eat their faces.

homesweethomeMrL,

Only many of them. The rest are confusedly marching along and seig heiling.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

If they’re capable of not wanting a dictator, even if he’s on their “team,” there’s some hope, though once he’s in power it will be too late to do anything about it.

kinsnik,

It’s not that they doing believe it. They want it. A sizable part of the US (and any country tbh) would prefer that there was a single person with all the authority

gibmiser,

They want daddy to take care of them.

Effective Democracy requires an informed populace to make hard decisions (vote) about difficult and nuanced situations.

Dictators tell everyone the problem is easy to fix and that they will fix it. Usually they find a scapegoat to blame.

They are people who are frustrated by the complexity of real life and want someone to take care of everything for them.

Sterile_Technique, to politics in 'Screaming the Quiet Part': Trump Advisers Say He's Ready to Embrace King-Like Powers | Common Dreams
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

Could Biden use that ruling to just stay president, but leave them the opportunity to repeal it? Illustrate how dangerous it is while still giving the system a chance to self-correct.

homesweethomeMrL,

He could. He won’t.

TimLovesTech,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

Yep, the Court did this all to set the stage for Trump knowing that Biden (or Dems) wouldn’t abuse the new power.

But since they aren’t going to abuse it they should be on every news station every night till the election explaining the danger of the Court. Hold press conferences everyday, make the Republicans have to take a stance on a Supreme Court writing new law instead of adjudicating cases like they are supposed to be doing. Make it so everyone that doesn’t normally follow the news finds out they just set the stage for Trump (or the next even further right fascist) winning.

SecretSauces,
@SecretSauces@lemmy.world avatar

The thing is, the Dems CANT abuse the power. If they do, they’ll get crucified by both sides for it. And that’s what the Republicans want. They’re simultaneously making it so they’ll stay in power when its their turn, and daring the Dems to do it knowing it won’t go well for them. Its a win-win in their eyes. Especially while you have some of your people sitting on the highest court in the country.

And this is the flaw with a two-party system. If one party decides to play dirty, the other is either forced to play just as dirty to keep up, (devolving into anarchy) or trying to play by the rules and getting blocked by the other team at every turn.

IphtashuFitz,

IF Trump actually wins the election then I hope Biden goes full scorched earth with the powers that the SCOTUS granted. He’ll have nothing to lose at that point.

TimLovesTech,
@TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social avatar

He won’t though, because he’s basically a moderate Republican that wants to both sides everything. He’s afraid to offend the same people stabbing him in the back.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why he should leave the door open for scotus to repeal their decision; and be VERY vocal about exactly what he’s doing. “I am 100% abusing this new power granted by the scotus in order to shine the spotlight on just how dangerous it is; consider the damage I could be doing right now if my intent was malicious. What I’ll do instead is wait for the scotus to wake up and revise their incredibly bad decision, concluding the power I shouldn’t have in the first place and forcing me to step down as my position requires.”

DessertStorms, (edited )
@DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What is happening now is the system self correcting. It was designed to concentrate immense power in the hands of a select, corrupt, few, all we’re seeing now is the illusions they’ve piled on to that slowly dissolve as they no longer need to keep up pretences.

MartianSands,

No. The ruling seems to have said that he can do anything he likes in his capacity as president, and he can’t be convicted of any criminal offence for it. It didn’t say that the people around him would have to go along with it, or that they’d be immune from prosecution.

It also left convenient wriggle room for the court to arbitrarily decide what constituted “official” actions, rather than him doing something privately, so they’ve effectively granted themselves a get out of jail free card to decide case-by-case in the future

xenomor,

The president has the power to pardon the people around him.

MartianSands,

True, I didn’t consider that. He’d still have to convince them though, which would be easier said than done if he wanted to entirely disregard the constitution

xenomor,

I have confidence in the ability of someone like trump to surround himself with exactly the type of people who would gladly take such leaps.

NotMyOldRedditName,

As someone pointed out to me, it’s federal crimes.

So if he asks you to do something that he’s shielded from, but is a state crime, youre SOL

grue,

Murder is generally a state offense, but since D.C. is a Federal district, I’m pretty sure murders that occur there would be pardonable.

NotMyOldRedditName,

Dear Mr Person I Want to Murder

It would be lovely if you could come visit me in DC. I have a great murder opportunity I’d like to discuss with you

Sincerely Trump

grue,

I think you lost the discussion thread a little bit. We’re talking about what Biden could do about the corrupt Supreme Court justices. They’re definitely in D.C. already.

NotMyOldRedditName, (edited )

Not really.

Pardons come up, I mention federal only, you mention murder, and then I make a joke about it.

You think Biden is gonna murder someone?

grue,

You think Biden is gonna murder someone?

LOL, no.

But I do think that the fascist SCOTUS judges just gave him that power, and that Biden demonstrating just how terrible a power it is by using it to get rid of them might be the only way to get the decisions overturned and stop the US from becoming a dictatorship.

NotMyOldRedditName,

The only two ways are pretty much what you said, or a massive blue wave in November that gives the dems a supermajority in the senate and a majority in the house.

AKA the USA is fucked.

grue,

Sigh… yep.

Theprogressivist, to politics in 'Screaming the Quiet Part': Trump Advisers Say He's Ready to Embrace King-Like Powers | Common Dreams
@Theprogressivist@lemmy.world avatar

“without fear of punishment or restraint.”

This is what happens when you normalize a fucking Fascist instead of taking him down when you motherfuckers had the chance.

homesweethomeMrL,

I hope he’s ready for the fate of kings. Actually, i take that back. I don’t give a shit what that bloated rapist felon demented sociopath is ready for. His 15 minutes were up in the 80s. Obviously no one in an official capacity is able to take care of fucking business.

Olgratin_Magmatoe,

If he does become a true dictator, I wouldn’t be surprised by him dying of old age. The fascist he hands his power down to however, they might see the fate of kings.

just_another_person, to politics in Jared Golden Op-Ed on Trump Called 'Unconscionable Surrender to Fascism'

Welp, he’s not getting reelected

Jagger2097,

Mainer here, I bet he does

phoneymouse,

He’s in a purple district.

CoCo_Goldstein, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage

I found the first part where the guy was digging in the rubble, then later searching the tunnel to be inconclusive. I couldn’t tell who or what was going on.

However, the second part, where the guy is handcuffed in his underwear, surrounded by soldiers, then later on it looks like the same guy being herded through a building… that doesn’t look good. Someone below mentioned a possible prisoner swap. I don’t think prisoner swaps are handled like that.

RizzRustbolt, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage

I’ll stand in front of you…

I’ll take the force of the blow… Projection.

pyre, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage

IDF: Hamas is terrible; they use human shields!

also IDF:

Linkerbaan, (edited ) to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

For those that haven’t seen it yet, here’s the newest Aljazeera video with hard video evidence of israel using Human Shields in Gaza. Even dressing them up as IDF soldiers and forcing them to clear buidlings

youtu.be/gSbWuGSGOBo?si=mg_CmPvDfZnS_DAS&t=38

dditty,

I first started following the Israeli-Palestinian conflict twelve years ago and the IDF were using Palestinians as human shields back then (and I believe well before then). While this is nothing new, seeing video evidence of it is so jarring, horrifying, and indefensible it has left me feeling shaken and infuriated at the wanton disregard for human life and international law.

theacharnian,
@theacharnian@lemmy.ca avatar

Do you know of any version with English subs?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Someone posted this below it looks accurate.

I just used closed capation auto translate on the YouTube video.

Resol, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I swear, if they accuse us of antisemitism for criticizing this move for the umpteenth time, I will checkmate them by saying that real Jews would never, ever, encourage this sort of behavior.

Why is it so easy to excuse Israel for this disgusting thing they’re doing?

BertramDitore,
@BertramDitore@lemmy.world avatar

real Jews would never, ever, encourage this sort of behavior.

I really wish that were true. I’m a Jew, and I am fully against this genocide and Israel’s hypocrisy in general, but Israel is full of real Jews who absolutely encourage this behavior. It’s sad, demoralizing, and shameful, especially for us “normal” Jews who see it for the evil that it is, but I’m not sure enough of the world realizes how normalized this kind of violence is in Israel. I’ve spent a lot of time there, and the vapid, bloodthirsty hatred for Palestinians is absolutely real, and many many more Jews than you or I would like to believe support these atrocities.

I’m a descendant of Holocaust survivors, with a sizable contingent of family that escaped Europe to Israel, and I frankly won’t be talking to any of them ever again now that I know they happily support genocide.

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

Truly what a depressing time we live in. 😪

Maggoty,

I get what you’re saying but I think they’re trying to say anyone who would do this isn’t a real Jew. In the same way we try to disavow Christians who are punishing the poor and homeless.

BertramDitore,
@BertramDitore@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yeah that makes sense. Though in the past I’ve gotten in trouble for trying to say who is and who isn’t a “real” Jew (many an argument about Messianic Jews over the dinner table). But yeah, anyone who supports genocide doesn’t deserve my respect, so I’m okay calling them not real Jews.

Mrkawfee, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage

“The most moral army in the world”

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Almost as moral as the fullest void is full

ynthrepic, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

What proves this footage is really what the article claims it to be? It’s a very specific explanation for what appears quite vague.

I just don’t want to go sharing something we cannot actually verify as true. There’s a lot of other stuff mentioned in the article a lot of which we know to be true, but that isn’t proof of this claim.

Kbobabob,

What exactly is vague about being naked (mostly) with hands tied behind their back while walking through a building? What explanation do you have for such an event?

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

Something like this could easily be a simple prisoner transfer. This is one idea.

In general, we don’t know the where, the why, or the who. Movies have worse scenes than this. Nothing is beyond fabrication. Why were they filming and who posted the video? There are myriad possibilities.

There are already many clear-cut reasons to be critical of Israel, but it should still matter what is actually fact and what is fiction, shouldn’t it?

Silentiea,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Movies have worse scenes than this.

Heard it here first folks, if it’s in a movie, it’s not a war crime any more.

I’ll say that I mostly agree, it’s good to be critical and sceptical, but I do think that defense is well worse than lukewarm. I’d almost say if you treat your prisoners anywhere near as badly as they do in most movies, you’re already well into war crime territory.

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not a defense - I am just expressing how hard it is to really know what’s going on. It’s a good article though, and Common Dreams despite a strong liberal bias are known for factual reporting. There’s a good chance this is real, and that really sucks.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSbWuGSGOBo Here’s the video. There’s nothing vague about it.

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

You’re kidding me right? This is in Arabic for a start. I don’t speak Arabic. It looks on the face of it a vague as before otherwise. Help me out here.

IndustryStandard,

I posted a translated version yesterday. I will link it below. It took a dip in the internet JPEG fryer so quality is not as great anymore.

files.catbox.moe/busmfb.mp4

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

It’d be fantastic to not have the dramatic music and narrative overlay and have a translated version of the original footage and any dialogue that’s going on. We have Al Jazeera to blame for that though.

IndustryStandard,

Israel using human shields was what bothered me in the video. To each their own.

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

And yet that’s the narrative, not necessarily what is actually going on. There’s a reason it’s not a story published on Reuters, or AP, or even English Al Jazeera that I can find at least. There’s plenty of criticism of Israel in all of these. No reason why they wouldn’t run a story with evidence of the IDF using human shields. They ran this story after all.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

You can press the closed captions button and click auto translate to English.

It’s a magical world out there.

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

And we can trust what’s being said you think?

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Yes of course. The narration matches the video evidence.

Maggoty,

TIL, thanks!

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

Hang on… So you aren’t going to trust a primary source from a country that doesn’t speak English, unless said source is in English? The fuck? Of course it’s in fucking Arabic, it was filmed in an Arabic-speaking country. Put it through a translator like the rest of the world did.

Maggoty,

So you’re volunteering to go looking for explosives without drones, weapons, or any other equipment normally given to EOD soldiers? The idea that this footage is normal is ridiculous to anyone whose spent even a second in a western military.

ynthrepic,
@ynthrepic@lemmy.world avatar

Why isn’t it being reported on any other news service than Al Jazeera Arabic and Commom Dreams then? Am indictment against the IDF like this would absolutely be published in Reuters or the AP and many others.

cyberpunk007, to world in 'A Full-Fledged War Crime': Israel Condemned Over New Human Shield Footage

Another day, another disgusting thing done by Israel. And another day other countries governments just don’t seem to give a shit. What the fuck.

wurzelgummidge,

What can other countries do? Invade? The US bullies Nato into compliance, the rest of the world can only sit there and be appalled.

Dagnet,

The US: “Oh no, more innocents died, that’s sad” sends more bombs

trxxruraxvr,

What can other countries do?

Same they do to Russia. Freeze foreign money and ceace all trade

wurzelgummidge,

Most of Israel’s trading partners are Nato or Nato aligned. They can’t sanction Israel because they will be sanctioned in turn by the US.

ghostdoggtv,

As an American we should sanction the fuck out of Israel. The founders would have revolted by now.

ad_on_is,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

but… but that would be anti-semitic

cyberpunk007,

I’m definitely not equipped to have an answer, but it’s not right.

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