In Russian it’s called Вендекапец and is a bit like second coming.
Maybe it’s not happening yet, but the bigger share it has, the faster it’ll grow.
And MS and Apple have only themselves to blame.
20 years ago, when the first Linux offensive happened, so to say, with Mandrake and a wave of Linux-native games and proprietary products, and IBM support, people would criticize Linux for having inconsistent chaotic UIs and experience. I was a Windows-only kid, so this is retrospective and people can correct me.
Not sure if anybody remembers, but then you could find most of Windows’ important settings in one place, and it looked so polished and patient and relaxing, both 2000 and XP.
Mac OS X was all about toys and shiny colors, but there was also the spirit of it being very polished and consistent and light and fresh.
So - Linux can still be very usable. While both MacOS and Windows even look cheap, I wonder how they managed to achieve that. Even Gnome doesn’t look cheap despite desperately trying to imitate MacOS. Not even speaking about ergonomics.
They are comparing the totality of the value something has been bought for. So a $60 game needs to sell 10 copies, when $600 piece of hardware just needs to sell one. That’s been the reason why Valve Index was nr 1 for so long - it was very expensive, with purchases comming from the enthusiast market. Same thing for the steam deck - not many people will buy it, but it will be worth a lot of AAA games.
What other metric would you use to measure "top sellers", flat units sold? $10 indies and games on sale would probably dominate that list. Seems the most sense to base it off of revenue.
Yeah i don't get it. People are underselling just how much that is. I can't even buy one in my region, and i think there are many more. The number would be even higher if you could buy it worldwide like a game.
Units sold is really only useful if comparing similar products. You wouldn't compare how many yachts are sold in a year vs how many toothpicks or sticks of gum, by the same logic it makes no sense to compare a $500 gaming console to a $2 indie game either. Steam sells a lot of different products, I mean how would you measure F2P games which are not even sold by unit in the first place? How about DLCs? Software licenses?
And I would argue the info is useless anyway. All the list does is give you rough idea on what's making money on Steam, there are no specifics given. No one is using this data for anything serious.
...what isn't clear about it, Steam top sellers list has always been total revenue of everything sold on Steam. Even F2P games with microtransactions are counted.
It is a joke, Valve self proclaimed they sold their products in their website. We have zero evidence or 3rd parties to look into. They can lie and no one will know the truth.
as a life long gamer who has had to ‘grow up’ and learn trades to survive and pay bills. it would be hella fun and possibly cathartic to mess with a free game engine. I’ve been playing games for 30 years. Maybe it’s time i take all that knowledge and frustrate myself on a passion project. Thank You Unity for showing me GODOT.
At this point I don’t even really care if a game has a native port. If it works with Proton there’s a good chance it’ll run better than the native version anyway. If that saves developers time I’m fine with it.
I think this is mostly just practical. Tainted kernels are more problematic for a variety of reasons these days (thinking about things like TPMs), so moving that stuff out of the kernel lets NVIDIA keep their proprietary drivers without sacrificing certain use cases.
I’m more interested in seeing NVIDIA hardware usable with mesa, which would be a much longer term project.
Sounds nice, but why use an Nvidia card in a purpose-built Linux box? Obviously they must have made it work well with their default OS options, but it just feels like extra hurdles for them to work through.
Also, why not support AMD for actually appearing to give a shit about Linux open-source drivers? I was a longtime Nvidia user but switched to AMD on my latest build. Given how much better everything seems to work out of the box, they’ve earned my loyalty for the foreseeable future.
Amd can be quite hard to work with as a small vendor and even though they have a current product with them it takes alot of time, and money to get a new one. If they can
The excuse, which I believe, is that AMD is relatively small and can only do buisness with so many people Whereas nvidia is massive, and multiple smaller companies along with the main one will be in a much better place to supply GPUs.
Completely agree though, I would much prefer an all amd option.
There’s some ageless classics. HoMM3 came out 25 years ago and is still pretty much the top of its genre. Freespace2 more or less shut down the spacesim genre 25 years ago, as well…
The only reason Microsoft can push this as a ‘service’ now is that 90% of users do not care about, let alone understand any of the technology they use. Doctors, lawyers, CEOs, politicians, even most engineers, have no fucking clue what an operating system is, what “AI” is or why it would be a bad idea to feed 100% of your activity into a black box controlled by a megacorp. And good luck trying to explain to them why something like this might be bad, you need to lay out so much groundwork that by the time you get to training data privacy concerns they have already scrolled though 500 shitposts on TikTok.
It continues to blow me away that these projects get implemented as the only people who can do the work must also understand why it is a bad idea.
Someone yesterday posted the spec requirements for this service and it doesn’t appear to be meant for everyday users. It requires massive storage space on a fast SSD and also an NPU (Nueral Processing Unit).
Right, it needs the NPU because the data is stored and processed locally. Guess what, your computer/OS already knows everything you do.
Yet another nothing-burger for the internet to rage about.
I don’t use Windows for other reasons, but every useful application I use on a daily basis has some sort of history. Browsers remember pages I’ve visited, my editor has undo levels, terminal has a searchable scrollback buffer, my shell can recall pretty much every command I’ve ever run.
And yet none of them work together. I’ve been thinking about Recall though, and I think the only use case I would have would be to have it summarize my daily activities on a work machine. Quite often I join morning standups, or a standup after a long weekend, and I’m like “wtf did I do yesterday?”. I’d love to have an AI remind me I spent 3 hours on Teams dealing with a co-worker’s issue, or how long I spent researching something in order to reply to an e-mail.
Or when you notice you have a follow-up meeting on your calendar and you’ve completely forgotten what the action items you were supposed to handle from the meeting 2 weeks ago.
Basically there’s a ton of QOL activities computers could be doing that require some sort of artificial intelligence to index and retrieve in order to be useful. That involves allowing some sort of local AI access to that data, but as long as the crowd of smooth brained luddites keeps whining that goal is getting further away…
It’s a little bit more than “your os knows everything you do”.
Copilot for Windows isn’t the same thing as Copilot for 365, although it’s similar, and the system requirements only apply if you tell it to process locally. My understanding of the docs is Copilot is cloud based by default.
The issue isn’t smooth brained luddites, it’s smooth brained casuals giving condom over their personal information to a corporation that has a fiduciary responsibility to profit and grow.
I just got a steam deck and I’m surprised how well it runs games. It’s not quite as refined as a switch but it can run games were designed to run windowed in Windows with a mouse and keyboard. It can translate the game to run on Linux, the inputs to a gamepad and convert the game from being windowed to fullscreen. It’s impressive and if the games were actually designed for the deck I feel like it could feel as seemless as the switch.
It is really making me consider Linux for my desktop once Windows 10 reaches EoL. The only game I’ve found that doesn’t work is Destiny 2. Even the desktop mode on the deck is surprisingly nice
The Steam Deck and it’s desktop mode is why I decided to try jumping head first into a single boot of Bazzite on my main computer, 4 months in and I haven’t looked back, even PDF’s are better in linux, no Adobe iron grip.
EDIT: sorry for comment spam! Jerboa having issues posting, hope it doesn’t show up and I tried to delete duplicates. XD
The best time to play with Linux as a daily driver system is now.
Play around with some virtual machines using VirtualBox for instance, do some installs, try distros, try desktop environments see what you fancy. Cool thing about playing with VMs is if you tank a system you can just delete and start over. :)
An old laptop to try a real “bare-metal” install to play with is even better.
This way, when MS says “Win10 is gonna be left to rot as security swiss cheese and your only option is Ai-enabled telemetry-infested account-mandatory nonsense.”
You can just comfortably jump to something you’ve already gotten familiar with!
The 'Deck can be used as a “real computer” too! It’s worth playing around in Desktop mode to just get used to how using Linux and KDE feels.
There is the theory, that to convince everyone of something, you have to invest very hard work to convince 4% of the populace of what you are doing is right. After that, the rest will learn to know of this by themselves.
I work in a very large hospital. I left for 3 years and just came back. When I went to open a document at work, it opened in Libre Office. I was pretty surprised that they ditched Microsoft Office for Libre. Makes financial sense to me, especially because most of our use-cases are simply opening and reading a document or slideshow. But I was still surprised they made that switch, and I doubt half of the employees honestly even notice that much
Now, they still run Windows Desktops, and I doubt that would ever switch in my lifetime. So no linux for us. But still pleasantly surprised at the step forward
Probably not honestly, but switching to Libre Office was probably relatively easy and saves way more than it cost to pay IT to get it running on the network.
But switching the desktop environment for the entire hospital system, I could see being costly (in labor costs). Plus, I’m not sure that the EMR (Epic) would play nice, or any of the other various critical programs they use. Definitely a much different (and probably difficult) task to pull off smoothly, compared to switching Office for Libre
I think it really could be, if administration could understand the limitations of the IT side. And/or the corporate/entity cared to spend the money to make it happen (Like re-hiring the IT department so that everyone was on the same page).
I wish it could, but even I wouldn’t think that it would be financially efficient to try and “fix” what already works. And Epic is just one of the critical programs… there’s a lot of in-between.
If it were my hospital to run; I’d wanna test-run linux desktop in some capacity, because I bet it could be made to work better/cheaper. But it’s one of the most extensive hospitals in the state, with a LOT of everyone around using their services in some capacity. I can’t imagine them shelling out the extra capital to “decide” if there would be “long-term gains”. It’s not financially smart “short-term”, even if financially better "long-term.
But switching to Libre Office? I was surprised. Maybe one day we’ll get there
Okay but they… It… At least the back end works on Linux? Or did twenty two years ago, since before some of your younger staff were probably born, according to the first result of my single web search? I think the front end does too? You know computers with different operating systems can talk to each other, right? Yeah you should be sure, and that’s why you set up a test computer in a back room somewhere to be absolutely personally sure.
I understand that its not your decision, I, um, can’t refute that part (I’d like to argue it though? For fun?)
Maybe the entire regime of ‘ownership’ especially of such an important public utility so many people rely on, like a fucking hospital cannot, in real terms, be privately owned? It is the property of the people, of the community it is in, and as such, and as that it is the year of the Linux desktop, you should be conducting a covert assassination campaign against windows partisans on the IT staff and gradually reclaiming that department for the people while making absolutely no other changes to things like billing or scheduling or policy regarding unhoused patients.
Then, when the unbelievers are purged, quietly install Linux with cinnamon on people’s computers, until it has finished, and you are victorious. Reap the software licensing fees you would have paid to Microsoft and 5% efficiency gains in one hospital to jump start the revolution from there. Use it to build a concentration camp for landlords, then…
Use it to build a concentration camp for landlords, then…
Lol, I love the gumption
I unfortunately don’t work IT in any capacity (it’s a hobby of mine), and have never even seen an IT personnel from work, in person. But I also work nights as a nurse (direct patient care), so it’s not really in my “scope of practice” to have much of a say. But one can still dream
Nurses make great serial killers, I can only assume they would make equally good political assassins!
So first you call for tech support, just any bullshit issue, but word it ambiguously so they have to talk to you to figure out what you meant. drop a comment to provoke a response, measure their opinion. Designate them target, nonentity, or potential comrade to recruit to the cause. Keep going until you find either a target you can turn to an asset until its time to dispose of them, or a comrade who might genuinely assist. IT get you the information from personnel records and department meetings. Boom. Linux on the whole system within a year, and you’re skimming license fees to build that concentration camp for landlords.
Again, still love the gumption! Though I feel like there’s probably a few steps you’re brushing over. But even if I could (theoretically) pull all of that off, idk how skimming licensing fees would ever be practical to me, especially without losing my job for a “conflict of interest”.
I’m a simple man that works slow to create change. I’d start a campaign if anything. Research and talk about viability. But if I’m putting energy into campaigning for anything; I’m campaigning for a union wayyy before I campaign for company-wide linux adoption. Help myself and coworkers first, before pursuing a personal tech-suggestion
Edit: maybe a psychotic serial-killer nurse would be better suited for that operation. That’s not really me though, I kinda really love what I do; all things considered
Nope, the plan is perfect and only a counter-revolutionary would suggest otherwise. straight to the gulag.
maybe a psychotic serial killer nurse would be better
Know any?
conflict of interest
Well you wouldn’t be stealing it for yourself, and its not like there isn’t already a massive conflict of interest between execs who like money and staff who like treating patients.
You’re funny though, ngl. Go ahead and do something yourself, of the same nature. Report back with your “accomplishments”, we’re all ears. Best of luck friend
I’ve been had! Welp, the cat’s already outta the bag now, so might as well tell ya the truth; I’m actually a serial-killer-cop… aka, a cop. You can run, but you’ll never be able to hide!
Edit: huffing, puffing, wheezing …ok, maybe you can actually just run a bit, no hiding necessary. I’m going on another break; I need to catch my breath
Epic is developing Hyperspace for Mac, as well as “standalone” (access Hyperspace in a web browser). Plus many hospitals use Citrix virtualization, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Linux is theoretically possible (though unlikely due to jankiness).
We use Citrix, and that’s where my knowledge really lacks (networking, in general). I feel like it could absolutely be done, but the “jankiness” of every program trying to operate smoothly, seems like a large hurdle (at least to my unknowledgable self). I just can’t see a large hospital like mine, even trying to test-run something that may cause them more headaches than they already are used to. They have enough issues navigating/operating their current systems, as is lol. You can (almost literally) see the devide between admin expectations vs. practicality.
They’re barely interested in spending money on “staff retention”, let alone any software/networking “maybe’s”. They seem to lack the foresight for “long-term” gains, vs the “short-term”. Color me surprised
I could see them asking for unreasonable function, because they don’t understand. And then blaming IT for any hiccup.
And I don’t feel like a web-based Hyperspace would be entirely viable, as we already have protocols for if/when the internet or network goes down. There are computers throughout the hospital that are specifically utilized for any “network downtime”. Maybe they could use satellite or something as a “backup network-generator”, but I’m too unknowledgable to understand how that would work or if it would even be viable. I honestly don’t fully understand how the “downtime computers” operate, so that doctors’ orders can still be made… maybe they already use satellite for those? I have no idea
But definitely doesn’t seem like a “tomatoes/tomatas” situation to me, when comparing going full linux vs switching to Libre. I was just happy to see any kind of sensibility from them on the subject
www.kasmweb.com
It’s a container streaming platform. So it can replace RDP, remoteapps, Citrix and potentially Hyperspace (if it runs in Wine). Plus it’s open source or can be paid for if you need support and hosting.
You get a free Ubuntu container to mess around for a few minutes, it’s rather snappy for a VNC backend.
I’m guessing there’s a reduced pool of desktop pc users, thus Linux users are now slightly bigger in proportion? There has been big advances regarding Linux adoption, too.
I started using Linux in 2021 never had any problems with drivers for anything. Debian also. It was just a pain in the ass to install until I figured out I had to download the iso with non free drivers or whatever. Glad they made this easier for Debian 12.
Now that I think about it, I actually first used Linux in 2021 too. For me it was because the laptop I had shipped with a HDD that was known for being prone to vibration failure, so while waiting for the warranty request to be approved I was running a persistent Ubuntu live USB
Windows 11 was officially released. That giant spike in late 2021 almost perfectly matched when Windows 11 was released. The Steam Deck was released in early 2022. So, from the graph, I would say the two main contributing factors are Windows 11 sucking to no one’s surprise and the Steam Deck exposing people to Linux gaming.
Proton making Linux better for gaming, which was the biggest excuse for holdouts. Steam deck showing you could not only game on Linux, but do so while sitting in a tree, with long term support implied by show of confidence from a large corporation.
Windows steepened its enshittification spiral.
The pandemic put a lot of people in a more experimental space, and they tried a lot of shit. And a lot of people picked up new skills. Including Linux 101.
And people saw authority in general start failing in a big ways. A lot of people started questioning shit. Including corporate hegemonies.
It’s true that Steam is in a dominant market position so I do agree they should be kept in check. At the same time, their value-add is quite reasonable, so I wonder what the “correct” charge is for the service they provide. Or perhaps some system they need to make more open to competition like Steamworks or the Workshop?
Private companies can have shares and shareholders too, fyi. They just aren’t traded on a public market and aren’t beholden to a public mandate of profit or share growth above all else.
I was like…what comment did they make in response to mine that got removed before I got a chance to see…and now I can guess the type of comment it was. It’s ok to be wrong, it doesn’t mean you’re weak or a bad person.
I had made a reply for this user here: lemmy.ca/comment/9780622 but I guess he wanted to give me a copy paste reply for a reply I was giving to someone else…
The comment can be boiled down to: Everyone is sucking up to Valve like usual, they could just as easily become evil like Google did, despite their old motto and everyone in tech loving them in the past. Being private is the one thing keeping Valve from enshittifying themselves so they are just as bad as any company.
So long as Valve remains private, the experience getting shittier in the name of more profits is a pressure that faces Valve but not necessarily an inevitably.
If Valve breaks the trust they have built in ways that Google and Microsoft have and continue to do, of course I will stop using them where feasible. Assurances mean nothing, I will respond to action with action of my own. Support more games for Linux, I will buy more of their games. Support bad practices like kernel-level anticheat, launchers in launchers in launchers, PSN, I will buy fewer of those games. I have an account with GOG (I have spent a little bit of money, I would more it Galaxy was available for Linux), Epic (I have spent $0 there because of Tim Sweeney’s aversion to Linux) and Itch.io (has a Linux client). I can move platforms if Steam has a sudden change of heart tomorrow and becomes hellbent on screwing customers over.
I think that there is regulation to be had re: the ownership of games or minimum availability of service for what is paid on both the seller and consumer side. But “I’m paying too much for games because of Valve’s monopoly” wasn’t really on my radar of things that Valve is doing wrong.
How big do you think Valve is? They’re estimated around 8 B net worth. That’s 3 orders of magnitude less than Microsoft, at 3 trillion. 8 B is chump change at the megacorp stage.
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