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pyre, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'

I’m shocked that yet another anti-woke pos who gets triggered by pronouns turned out to be a predator. would’ve never guessed!

GroupNebula563, to pcgaming in Ubisoft Just Delisted A Game Without Warning And Will Kill Its Servers Next Year

going to bet that people are going to reverse-engineer the game’s communication protocol and create replacement servers before 2025

Mango,

Hopefully I can find a way to redownload it when I get another PC.

NotSteve_,

The people behind those reverse engineered servers are legends. I recently was able to play through the original Demon’s Souls with fully working multiplayer which just blew my mind

MikeOToxin, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'

I’m no fucking predator or pedophile

Well… If the person was a minor, and you weren’t, and you knew they were young and the messages were ‘leaning inappropriate’, you’re a pedophile.

Also a predator.

Aurix,

That is not the words you should use for a 17 year old he didn’t even know was underage.

QuantumStorm,

He said he knew in his post.

Aurix,

Still not a pedophile nor a predator even for flirting. This is not a 12 year old, but in many jurisdictions a responsible adult.

QuantumStorm,

He’s a morally reprehensible asshole either way.

Aurix,

Yeah, he is mainly a cheater on his wife. Not exactly great, but conversations on this sound like by people who never leave their basement and talk to people.

Aurix,

A pedophile predator is somebody who systematically texts underage people, and fishes out the vulnerable ones to exploit their weaknesses for their own satisfaction and exerts control over them. Speaking to a single, depending on the jurisdiction (±1 year), consenting adult (17 is young, but not completely stupid), with slightly flirty messages is absolutely not that. it isn’t even toxic. in fact, it devalues this tag for behaviour which is not cool due to the cheating and a bit skittish because of the age difference, but is otherwise kind of okay. See, next time somebody tells me about a pedophile predator I will be thinking about a conversation between two adults, or almost adult and not nasty abuse scarring people for life.

Akrenion,

Have you talked to 17 year olds? They are far from developed in most cases. Anyone even in their late 20s should notice the difference in development and stay clear.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah that’s a fair take.

It is reprehensible and disgusting behavior, but it doesn’t mean we should universally apply labels across vast swaths of different issues, as it devalues said label and poisons future discussion.

Simple labels simplify discussion of course, but that runs the risk of losing nuance for the specific way someone was a disgusting creep.

DrJenkem,
@DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

No it’s not. Beahm, a 38 year old man at the time, was sexting a minor. That makes him a pedo.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

I did not disagree with that, so I’m not sure what you’re on about.

DrJenkem,
@DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

So you agree that Beahm is a pedo? You replied to a person that does not think he is a pedo with “fair take”. Maybe you replied to the wrong person.

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I do. I disagree with most of their posts, but I agree with the motion that using the same labels indiscriminately is a problem in online discourse.

For example, far as I know so far, I’d call him a pedo, but I am unsure whether I’d call him a predator (of course, language differences apply, too). That’s just because I need words to express the predatory nature of people like Maxwell who prey on teens and YA.

That’s kinda what I meant, there’s too few words to just use the same label across the board sometimes. Doesn’t make something someone does less reprehensible. Rather i prefer to sometimes use full sentences instead of quick labels because it more accurately expresses the matter.

DrJenkem,
@DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube avatar

but I am unsure whether I’d call him a predator (of course, language differences apply, too). That’s just because I need words to express the predatory nature of people like Maxwell who prey on teens and YA.

What do you mean by this? Beahm was preying on a minor by sexting that minor and asking to meetup at twitch con. Are you specifically referring to people operating child sex rings? In either case, I don’t think anyone else uses your ultra-specific definition. For myself, and I assume most others, pedophiles are merely a type of predator. For example, the show, to catch a predator, was about creeps sexting kids online. This is precisely what Beahm was doing so I don’t think it’s unreasonable to call him a predator.

imPastaSyndrome,

Unlike you who leaves in his windowless van to go hang out with your girlfriend at her highschool.

Aurix,

No point in leaving the windowless van, if I chained my highscool girlfriend inside it.

lightnsfw,

I leave my basement and talk to people every day without hitting on underage girls

NewNewAccount,

Dubious take.

Crikeste,

Not in the jurisdiction he was in, and that’s all that matters.

Also, while sending sexually explicit texts to minors (using only words) is not illegal, I’m pretty sure we can correlate what his intent was. What, do you think he’s going to come out and fully admit he’s a pedophile? No.

Also, nowhere in any of his statements has he clarified that he didn’t know they were underage. If it were the case that he didn’t know, that’s a pretty fucking big deal and he should know how important it is to explain that. He didn’t though.

Stop defending pedophiles.

bzz,

Mfers out here googling what age a legal adult is to defend predators

Chozo,

Where did that age come from?

NatakuNox, (edited )

Are you seriously taking the pedophiles side on this?!

Aurix,

It isn’t pedophilia, that is the point. It is flirting with a, in many countries and states, consenting person.

braindefragger, (edited )

Hbvtrd

Aurix,

Then why aim at me and not change the legislation?

braindefragger, (edited )

Hyttffx?$&

NatakuNox,

Ya he was just trying to be a pedophile. Totally different…

weastie, (edited )

I hate to get so semantical but using the word pedophile incorrectly just desensitizes the word. Pedophilia means being attracted to children, primarily meaning before or in the early stages of puberty, usually younger than 13. In fact, many pedophiles would not be attracted to someone aged 15+ because they are typically exclusively or primarily interested in prepubescent bodies.

That doesn’t mean this guy isn’t a total asshole, but he’s not a pedophile, and I think anyone can understand an adult sexting an older teen, while still absolutely horrid, is quite different from sexting a child.

Once again, absolutely not defending this guy, I don’t even know who he is… but I think it’s important not to desensitize the word.

MikeOToxin,

I know the distinction, but hebephile doesn’t carry the same weight. Also, I believe I read the minor was 12. So… Pedo.

I stand by what I said. We don’t need to be apologistic towards the scum of the earth. Kids are kids.

AsherahTheEnd,

Oh fuck. I heard she was 17 and that was fucking bad enough as is. Fucking hell this man is awful.

christian,
@christian@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah I would totally agree with this if the word wasn’t already desensitized a very long time ago. The language has changed. (I’m assuming people were ever differentiating, I don’t really know/remember the history.) Colloquially it means interested in teens unless it’s clarified to be worse than that.

I recommend not trying to make this argument, anywhere. It will not change the way people use words, even if it could there would not be a point (attraction to pre-teens is so egregious that it will always be clarified), and a lot of people will assume that someone who doesn’t accept the colloquial usage is themselves interested in teens and in denial about how the public actually views that to the point where they think only interest in prepubescent children is problematic and handwave everything else away as a language issue.

MikeOToxin,

Colloquially, it’s a catch-all nowadays. Like I said in another reply, we don’t need to differentiate between lowest common denominators. That gets into sounding sympathetic to these fucks, and anyone who sympathizes might as well be one themselves.

Dkarma,

You sound like a pedophile.

skittlebrau,

I’ve attended a seminar for child protection before that was delivered by a former cop (that worked in the sex crimes division) and they said the exact same thing - in the context of correctly making the distinction between paedophile and sex offender.

Sounds like he was grooming her.

dan1101, to pcgaming in Forza Horizon 4 Is Disappearing And It's All Because Of Stupid Licenses [not known if music, real-world car models etc.]

Coincidentally it’s on sale for $12 right now, an all-time low price.

rdri,

It’s cool but it won’t help people who’ve yet to discover the game for one reason or another.

stoy,

Yes it will, it is cheaper and atill availablw for purchace.

They may not have as much time to enjoy it as longer players, but they have time.

rdri,

I mean people who is not even an audience for now, like children. Or those who is still not born. Or people in Russia.

dan1101,

That’s true of any sale of any game though.

rdri,

No. Majority of all games are not bound by licensing. You should still be able to buy these games in years to come.

scrubbles, to games in Starfield’s 20-Minute, $7 Bounty Hunter Quest: The Kotaku Review. The first paid DLC for Bethesda's big space RPG is overpriced, paltry, and emphasizes the game's lifelessness.
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I like to do things cost per hour. A $60 dollar video game that gives me 120 hours of content is $0.50 an hour. Pretty good if you ask me.

Going to the movies is $20 for 2 hours. $10 an hour. Pretty high, sometimes worth it. That’s about my gauge.

This is $21 an hour. For that I better be having just an amazing time, I better be at Disneyland or something.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I’ve spent $160 on Elden Ring (base game on PC and PS5 and I have the DLC on PC), and have spent 638.5 hours in it just on Steam. That’s about $0.25/hour. Even arcade games aren’t that cheap anymore!

deranger,

I’ve got >1000 hours in Microsoft Flight Simulator and I paid $100 for the deluxe edition. 10 cents an hour, at most.

JDPoZ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

When I bought my buddy’s used GameCube for like $50 back in 2005, he gave me an extra controller and Smash Bros. Melee with it.

Just on that game alone I logged more than 2,000 hours playing almost literally every day for 4 years alongside my dorm-mates and buddies.

That’s like… $0.02 and a half cents per hour… for a whole ass GameCube and a game.

…Best purchase I ever made.

Voytrekk, to pcgaming in The Latest Twist In Dr Disrespect's Infamous Twitch Ban Saga, Explained
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

tldr, he was sexting a minor.

ILikeBoobies,

He’s an influencer. That’s what they do

rozodru, to pcgaming in The Latest Twist In Dr Disrespect's Infamous Twitch Ban Saga, Explained

AND NOW it’s come out he was ALSO during the same period sexting a transgender sex worker for private cam shows in exchange for partner status on Twitch: x.com/iqkev/status/1806236733727555604 After receiving said cam shows, the Doc promptly blocked her.

hexadence, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'
@hexadence@lemmy.world avatar

Ah, there it is. The sponsored hate train. Like reddit, but cheaper. But hey, thanks for keeping this site running.

Akasazh, (edited )
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Pls show me where I can get some of this sponsorship money. I’m not usually one to hate train, but this fellow makes it easy, so I’ll take my easy money.

hexadence,
@hexadence@lemmy.world avatar

Sure. What’s another landfill on the internet.

Step 1: Make your own “social” website.

Step 2: Prevent bots from signing in. (You really don’t want to miss this step, otherwise you’re free real estate.)

Step 3: Write your own bots that will scrape other “social” websites for content. This is to attract people before original content begins to form.

Step 4: Sell post priority and upvotes. And there you have it. Your own money generating cesspool of gradual deterioration.

That’s it. And yes… Easier said than done. Step 2 is really the hardest one. Perhaps make it obligatory to sign in with a phone number or something, cause capchas are a whole battlefield in itself. I don’t really know how hard / easy it is to get a bunch of phone numbers to use for this purpose…

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

I need some extra information on step 4. I’m kind of needy of others’ perceived opinion on me and convinced that ‘number go up’ will convince people of the quality of my ideas.

As such I want to inflate my imaginary numbers, with as little effort as possible. So doing steps one through three is too much hassle.

Where could I aquire me a bunch of upclicks to fill my empty husk of a soul?

hexadence,
@hexadence@lemmy.world avatar

You can only do this to sites that skipped or didn’t take seriously enough step 2. Depending on how good the sites filtering requests is, this can range from 100$ linux server running python scripts for account creation. 100 accounts = 100 upvotes. All the way to very sophisticated proxy networking, capcha cracking, in some cases even AI driven internet monopoly demon that isn’t too cheap, so it better be making everyone else miserable enough to make you not think about doing a ninja flip from a 4 story building into a wood chipping machine for a couple of minutes.

Akasazh,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

Comprehensive reading isn’t really your strong suit, is it?

hexadence,
@hexadence@lemmy.world avatar

What made you come to that conclusion?

frauddogg,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Man, I knew your instance was a nazi bar, but a pedo bar too? 🤮

tacosanonymous, to pcgaming in The Latest Twist In Dr Disrespect's Infamous Twitch Ban Saga, Explained

Just because it wasn’t illegal doesn’t mean it wasn’t fucking gross.

Tier1BuildABear,
@Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world avatar

And just because you didn’t meet up doesn’t mean you didn’t engage in pedophilia. I like how he talks about hating pedophiles, so at least we know he hates himself too /s

KingThrillgore, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

wop wop wop wop wop

I have this feeling this is probably not the last controversy involving minors we will see shake out of his mustache this week. Justin Roiland had his empire also collapse from grooming. Guy is done.

BruceTwarzen,

That’s why drake is done too? The guy who beat the shit out of a woman and tattooed it on himself? Drake the groomer with his new album? That done?

TammyTobacco,

The issue there is that all Drake fans are pedophiles.

shapesandstuff,

That’s the thing right. Nobody gets “cancelled”
They get called out and shamed… and then carry on with business a few weeks later.

Rammstein is filling stadiums again, drd will come back from his vacation and keep on trucking on.

They never face consequences and yet they cry about a woke cancelculture that only exists in their heads to hype up their own bullshit

ShaggySnacks,

“Help! Help! I am being held accountable for my actions. The whole woke mob is coming after me and trying to cancel me!”

Soulg,

Did the allegations against rammstein ever amount to anything? I remember seeing the initial story, but then never any follow up about how the court cases went or whether it turned out to be true or not

blackluster117,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

Wait, what happened with Rammstein?

dosaki,

I didn’t know what happened but I found this: www.dw.com/en/…/a-66716970

Apparently there were some women drugged and abused :/

shapesandstuff,

Legally, no. But there was zero intention to investigate, or clear up anything from the band. No comments, distancing from such actions.

They just threw c&ds at the women in question and buried the topic. Ah and made fun of it of course.

frauddogg,
@frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml avatar

“You’re only as canceled as your next project.” – F.D. Signifier

burgers,

did you mean chris brown for the tattoo thing?

yetAnotherUser, to pcgaming in The Latest Twist In Dr Disrespect's Infamous Twitch Ban Saga, Explained

The article is way longer than it should be

Chozo, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'

How quickly we went from "I didn't do it" to "I did it, but it wasn't that bad".

Emmy,

Wait for it…

That didn’t happen.

And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.

And if it was, that’s not a big deal.

And if it is, that’s not my fault.

And if it was, I didn’t mean it.

And if I did, you deserved it.

laughterlaughter,

Overused comment that has almost nothing to do with the point.

Dkarma,

Just admit you’re too stupid to understand.

laughterlaughter,

lol!

Sam_Bass, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'

Yes he is.

Reddfugee42,

But dude you don’t understand, he reverse uno’d you. The end.

Perturabo, to gaming in Dr Disrespect Admits To 'Inappropriate' Messages With Minor: 'I'm No Fucking Predator Or Pedophile'

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  • LordGimp,

    17 after being groomed for ~3 years when dingus tried to meet up and the parents went loud with twitch. Grooming a 14 year old girl is generally considered in bad taste.

    Kekin, to pcgaming in Forza Horizon 4 Is Disappearing And It's All Because Of Stupid Licenses [not known if music, real-world car models etc.]
    @Kekin@lemy.lol avatar

    For this same dumb reason I wanted to play Forza Motorsport 7 on PC and couldn’t buy it.

    And somehow you can still get NFS games that are at least 10 years old I think

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