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Lost_My_Mind, to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

victim surcharge of £154.

WHAT VICTIM??? The article says nothing of him doing anything to others. To my knowledge he didn’t attack anyone. There’s no victim!

PyroNeurosis,

He is the victim. It’s a charge on him.

Lost_My_Mind,

Soooooo, either he should get the money, as the victim, or the charge is basically police charging victims money for being victims.

…I feel like I’m missing something here.

Atelopus-zeteki,
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This "victim surcharge" would be termed court cost or court fee in the US.

Lost_My_Mind,

What a strange name if thats the purpose.

Atelopus-zeteki,
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Lost_My_Mind,

Oh, I wasn’t accusing you of lying. I was just saying it’s such a strange name for a charge that has a legitimate purpose, but is named in a way that has nothing to do with that purpose.

Kinda like if you took an uber, and they charged you for the “poopy diaper charge”. And you say nobody on your trip even wore a diaper. So the driver tells you it’s so he can refill his gas in the car.

Churbleyimyam,

Good feckin point!

Buffalox, (edited ) to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

MASTER SWORD = 22 cm or 8.6 inches including handle and holster.
We also have very strict knife regulation here (Denmark), but I think if it is a first time offense, he would have gotten off with a fine, since it’s obviously a toy.

Seems like a perfect place for role playing games!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire#/media/File:Kenilworth_Castle_(cropped).jpg

Wiki page:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire

sunzu,

What is the aim of the regulation?

Does it cover dense urban areas only?

Churbleyimyam,

Most youths who are involved in crime carry a knife for protection. This means that if the police want to arrest one of them, for whatever reason, they can because they will likely find a knife on them.

sunzu,

I see. Is this pure fear behind it or is there some evidence that the law is beneficial?

But yeah, another good pretext for harassing the young and/or poors.

Reminds of war on drugs until police started doing to the all "children" in the US and that attitude changed pretty quick.

Buffalox,

We (Denmark) have 0.9 homicides per 100,000 capita, UK has 1.1 USA has 6.3.
Of course there are other factors, but overall regulation definitely and very evidently helps.
en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_countries_by_intention…

Pistcow, to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

Should have carried the gun blade from FF8 and it be protected under the 2nd amendment.

yesman,

2nd amendment of what? The Magna Carta?

Pistcow,

I mean that’s what the US Supreme court cites when overturning our rights so why can’t the UK do the same?

Lost_My_Mind,

In the UK?

FireTower,
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To be fair they used to have a right acknowledged in the 1689 Bill of Rights

Lost_My_Mind,

Its amazing how the colonists were basically just “Lets be Englishmen…but over there instead. And we’ll do all the same stuff, but also totally different.”

And John Adams said “Will there be alchohol?”

And then George Washington said “One day we’ll even name a beer after you.”

Then Benjamin Franklin went off to France to get laid a whole bunch. It was pretty easy to get laid in France in the 1770s if you just showed up, and said you’re leading a revolution against the British, and overthrowing monarchy power. Just tons of pusspuss and fine wine to go around.

…what were we talking about?

FireTower,
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They considered themselves to be Englishmen, and have the rights of one, even after the Battle of Bunker Hill for some time. Also you’re thinking of Sam Adams, who was a brewer. But Franklin is pretty much dead on the money. Didn’t even wear a wig just showed up all slovenly and slayed.

catloaf, to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

The article conveniently fails to mention whether it was sharp (extremely unlikely, the cheap steel used for these can’t really hold an edge), and even more conveniently crops out the tip of the “blade” so we can’t even see if it was pointed (also extremely unlikely, toys like this almost always have blunted tips).

This isn’t a weapon, it’s a toy. Sure, you could hurt someone with it, just like you could hurt someone with a baseball bat.

Churbleyimyam,

I reckon the police wanted to bust him for some other reason. The Master Sword was just their excuse.

sunzu,

Police has that discretion and it is ripe for abuse.

Churbleyimyam,

That why there is the advice to “only do one crime at a time” I guess!

sunzu,

The term crime lost a lot of its meaning somewhere between 10 commandments and now...

I guess dude committed a crime here but most people prolly would not really care.

While others commit bigger crimes and we care, nothing gets done.

Bluefalcon,

Before he obtains the tri-force of power and becomes unstoppable.

Randomdude, to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

The blade was only 6 inches that’s a master dagger at best lmao

Rayspekt,

But beware of the master claymore

Azathoth,

That’s called a Biggoron sword

whotookkarl,
@whotookkarl@lemmy.world avatar

Four months in prison for getting caught on CCTV fidgeting with a sheathed letter opener

Buffalox,

The handle is just 4cm or about 1.5 inches, so a grown man can’t even hold it in his hand properly, it is clearly a kids toy. He may have used for role playing, although he called it a fidget toy?

Robin, to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

Four months of prison? It sounds like the man is disconnected from reality but hardly a real threat to society.

A_Random_Idiot,

gotta throw the book at him to get the numbers up so they look better when it comes to ignoring serious crime.

Enkers,

Seriously. I’ve seen letter openers more threatening than that “sword”. Was it dumb? Sure. Does he deserve a slap the wrist, absolutely. But prison?? No way. What the actual fuck?

Womble,

The stupid thing is that the UK is literally running out of prison spaces currently so that we are considering letting long term prisioners out on licence early to free up room.

Yet apparently this man needs to have his life turned upsidedown in order to occupy one of those spaces for four months.

Churbleyimyam,

The cells are probably crammed full of cosplayers, student protestors and journalists. Remember that massive ruckus and manhunt for thee guy who was wandering around in a gimp suit making people feel uncomfortable?

“Our prisons have never been safer!”

Churbleyimyam, (edited )

It’s OK though because as soon as the prison guards turn their backs on him he will immediately escape on an eight inch paraglider.

SaltySalamander,

Draconian laws do be like that.

TransplantedSconie, to world in Man busted for carrying Master Sword from Zelda in the street

The Blade of Evil’s Bane should be carried by everyone at this point.

Th4tGuyII, to politics in ‘It’s nonsensical’: how Trump is making climate the latest culture war
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I'm less surprised by the GOP's willingness to sink humanity for the sake of short-term profits than I am that Trump takes 45 minutes to wash that mop he calls his hair

Moonrise2473, to world in EU plan to impose import duty on cheap goods could dent Shein and Temu

? under 150 euro the VAT is already automatically collected via IOSS, or it would be held at customs even if it’s declared as gift with 0€ value.

breadsmasher,
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which exploit a loophole on low valued goods

In the article.

In the EU, the threshold for the levy is €150 (£127) and in the UK it is £135

In the UK, items valued at £39 or less also do not attract import VAT.

Last year, 2.3bn items below the duty-free €150 threshold were imported into the EU

Moonrise2473,

But it’s not true. The threshold now is 0€, everything needs to pay vat since one year ago. Over 150€ it just can’t do the automatic ioss vat payment

Buelldozer,
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This article from the Financial Times explains the problem.

In a nutshell this isn’t about VAT, it’s about “Customs Duty” which are apparently two separate things in the EU.

I’m in the United States and we’re struggling with this same issue. The flood of cheap goods being imported via TEMU / SHEIN that intentionally stay below the value required to pay import duty is large and growing problem.

It’s also bad for the environment in every way imaginable.

Moonrise2473,

Ah i get it. But that tax is minimal and applies on specific hs codes. Like “additional 10% on polyester fabric shirts manufactured in that specific country”

I assumed it was applied it anyway together with the vat, it’s technically possible during the ioss declaration. Maybe it’s difficult to calculate for small stuff as especially clothing do the tour of the world, manufactured in Bangladesh, labeled in turkey, sent back to china for logistics

At least now everything is taxed at ~20% and china post seems stopped abusing the postal service by canceling their package service to Europe (source for that, a month ago I personally tried to send a package to myself from a Chinese post office, they said they don’t do that anymore, had to fit the stuff in the luggage) so now Alibaba and similar they ship a big container to Europe with combined orders and then use local shipping

How the us is doing by having the threshold so high is insane, leaving door open to abuse. It might made sense until the 80s when international trade was limited to big imports and there was no e-commerce. In my country every single package would declare a value of 799 and nobody would pay a dime lol

SeaJ, to world in EU plan to impose import duty on cheap goods could dent Shein and Temu

Good. Those two are pretty well known for horrible labor conditions.

IamAnonymous,

This isn’t helping their labor conditions though. It’s just helping companies like Amazon to sell the same junk at a higher price, as Amazon sellers buy the same products from Alibaba, and eliminate competition.

FlyingSquid, to world in EU plan to impose import duty on cheap goods could dent Shein and Temu
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I don’t know if I would fuck with Temu…

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d6176ce2-9591-46c4-aca2-70c76ebe036b.png

(That was an actual ad in my feed.)

girlfreddy,
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The Finnish Flash could kick their ass.

captain_aggravated, to politics in America’s big problem is not Joe Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Donald Trump
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Diaper Retard Hitler will kill the Western world as we know it, and the only other option we present to you is a man who is too old and senile to hand out werther’s originals by himself.

Civilization is a lost cause.

demizerone, to politics in America’s big problem is not Joe Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Donald Trump

At this point it is the fault of the media that is keeping us divided, democrat hubris, and the bubble they live in thinking a man with dementia will bring out the parties very fickle voters to vote.

pjwestin, to politics in America’s big problem is not Joe Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Donald Trump
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This is such a stupid take that I keep hearing. It’s like saying, “Yes, the captain is steering us towards the iceberg, but the real problem is the iceberg.” Well, we can’t change the iceberg, but there’s still time to change the captain.

HaleHirsute,

That’s a great analogy, perfect, I might repeat it around if you don’t mind.

pjwestin,
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Yeah, go ahead.

Jakeroxs,

Clearly you both just want to replace the captain with the iceberg. /s

GiddyGap, to world in Byron Bay is to be stripped of its nudist beach – and naturists blame ‘conservative creep’

This thread must be mind-blowing for Americans.

Godnroc,

Not really, were used to good things getting banned.

afraid_of_zombies,

We have nude beaches just not as common.

But you knew that already

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