Interesting reading all the comments about how you can understand those who don’t want to fight… yet, most of you support financing this war…the Democrats are sending BILLIONS of dollars, and god forbid we question where all the money is going… right?
This seems consistent, not hypocritical. If someone supports financing Ukraine, then one should want Ukraine to have enough money for recruiting. Conscription is like an inefficient and regressive tax.
And if you stop helping Ukraine and it runs out of resources, what do you think will happen?
Russia will see this and be like: “oh sorry Ukraine i’ll continue when you are rich”
I dislike war as much as the next guy but I also dislike the idea of Russia taking over Ukraine. And Poland. And Moldova. And any other former USSR state
Didn’t something similar happen in Turkey with Erdogan a few years back? Pretty sure he was accused of being behind it himself too; don’t know what the final verdict was though.
I think it’s a pretty common accusation, just like when a politician is attacked, someone will invariably suggest that they staged it in order to get more support.
Looking at the Wikipedia for it, that number comes from a Washington Post country guide with absolutely no context or source to back it up. So I’m not confident that’s correct. The Wikipedia article itself details less than 30 coups. They have one every few years sure, but it’s not like every 9 months for 160 years someone was trying to overgrow the government.
For one, Biden would have to willingly give up the nomination in order to release delegates already pledged to him.
Factually not true…
The DNC can rewrite the rules before the convention and nominate anyone they want.
As their lawyers have told judges, they’re a private organization that can name anyone as the candidate. That was their defense for accusations that they already rig primaries.
A second problem is the public doesn’t know any other Democrat nearly as well as they know Biden, and it would be difficult to introduce someone to the public at this late date without them being defined by Donald Trump, the Republicans and Fox News in the worst possible ways.
Literally anyone that becomes the Dem nominee will have nationwide name recognition in 24 hours.
The most common reason for voting Biden is “to stop trump” so any replacement shares the most important quality Dem voters want that Biden actually meets.
Like, sure, this would have been so much easier if we had an actual primary and the people closest to Biden hadn’t spent four years hiding him and lying about his mental capabilities. But they didn’t. They kept repeating it was too late for anyone except Biden.
Good points. However, I would argue that the DNC would absolutely fuck up picking a new nominee. They would pick some “centrist” unlikeable democrat that would try to appeal to a moderate middle that just doesn’t exist. They would run a flaccid campaign and manage to piss off everybody trying to appeal to everybody. Republicans would absolutely capitalize on the chaos.
Biden appointed Jamie Harrison, it’s very very unlikely that Jamie Harrison nominates anyone else. And if he does, it will be another moderate that names Jamie Harrison head of the DNC again.
Because the people running the DNC care more about personal political power than stopping trump.
Just like the problem with republicans isn’t just trump, it’s the people behind the scenes that also need addressed.
The problem with the DNC isn’t just Biden, it’s the people Biden put in charge of the DNC.
The party can’t survive without the voters, we’re the important part.
If the DNC refuses to acknowledge that, it won’t be the first time voters left a party behind to die without them.
At a certain point the corruption is bad enough we need to start over. It won’t be easy, but at a certain point it’s the only option.
In before they nominate fucking Hillary… again. It would be one thing to claim name recognition if people actually liked Biden, but nobody fucking likes Biden. People stomach Biden because the alternative is so much worse. This is why we so desperately need some kind of proportional voting system, literally any kind. The public needs a way of telling the parties “here’s how we feel about these issues” without it being a binary choice between bad and even worse.
When was the last time we had a dicking potato running the country? It’s like everything we’re seeing now is the Biden that’s always been, and that’s what the DNC chose to push on us
Yes, the DNC can change the rules whenever they want. But when your party is supposed to be putting a priority on Protecting Democracy, it’s a bad look to then say “Yeah, we held a bunch of uncontested elections which we are now ignoring the result of”.
The DNC can rewrite the rules before the convention and nominate anyone they want.
The DNC does not control the Biden/Harris 2024 campaign org, the Biden/Harris ground ops teams including 30 Biden/Harris campaign offices in Michigan alone, the Biden/Harris war chest containing over $100 million, or the Biden/Harris Super PACS.
Biden/Harris can take their ball and go home. And that’s why the DNC won’t replace Biden unless he willingly steps down.
any replacement shares the most important quality Dem voters want that Biden actually meets.
Apart from money and a functioning campaign organization. But who needs that if you’re young, right?
Your post is not true dude. They cannot rewrite the rules like that. Any changes they make would not take effect until the next election.
Listen. Biden is not going to step out. Anyone saying that this is a likely scenario is flat out delusional and has no idea what they are talking about, or they are a Trump supporter trying to sew chaos.
The DNC can rewrite the rules before the convention and nominate anyone they want.
The DNC is an organization stacked with Joe Biden loyalists. And that’s before discussing the fucked vibes of an 11th hour rules rewrite on the eve of what was supposed to be a lay-up nomination. Weeks of people arguing over who gets handed the Prez nod without a single primary vote cast in their name would be an absolute disaster.
Nobody can fight them right now though. Executive Order wouldn’t work, and Dems don’t have enough control in Congress. Dems need both to pass legislation that the Republicans definitely don’t want passed.
Republicans have done nothing but fight this type of legislation for decades, because they know they will never win the general populace come election time. This is why they Gerrymander, this is why they pass laws allowing themselves to unilaterally throw out election results, and this is why we’re seeing the Supreme Court making insane rulings right now. It’s all to try and disenfranchise the majority population opinion, and try to rewrite it with indoctrination.
Well, you’re right about the fighting part, but wrong on the attempts.
Dozens of states tried to pass election integrity bills after the Trump fiasco. Few got it passed due to Republican intervention.
Same in Congress in both the 117th and 118th. Attempts to make a bipartisan bill always fails because of GOP additions that are absolutely insane.
The opposite has happened in GOP controlled state sessions in places like Texas, Missouri, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan, where bills have been passed that are very obviously skewed towards the GOP controlling the seats, and getting the benefit of either limiting Democrat control directly, or limiting future abilities of such.
It’s absolutely foul, and though the Democrats are working hard to fight these things, it looks like abject failure before any real attempts can even be made, which voters seem to see as weakness. Maybe that’s just a defeatist point of view though.
Voters don’t expect everything to get fixed overnight
Voters aren’t even clear on what separation of powers means, much less the realities of the political processes of the government. Voters absolutely expect everything to get fixed overnight, and throw fits when it isn’t. Remember 2010?
Imagine how powerful leftist grassroots organizations would be if folks like you would dedicate the same amount of time and energy to voter engagement and activism that you devote to ranting and raving on political message boards. This country would be completely transformed in a matter of months.
Edit: Seriously, 6,800 comments over a 12 month period is almost 19 comments every single day of the year. That’s borderline obsession, and it can’t possibly be good for your mental health.
Well get your guns and get your civil war over with please. The only way to fight fascists, who believe that “might makes right” and “the eternal struggle” against their enemies, is to meet them with overwhelming force.
Without a majority in both chambers it seems like we’re fucked. Precedent means jack shit to the majority of the SCOTUS so we basically need to codify 50+ years of decisions. Even then we need to claw back some sanity at the state level.
Manchin and Sinema made sure we couldn’t get rid of or change the fillabuster. Without 60 votes, a simple e-mail saying “Fillabuster” is enough to kill anything.
There is no reason to keep it. It’s a throwback to the Jim Crow era and undemocratic. That undemocratic part is why the Republicans love it so much that they changed the rules from:
You have to stand in the rotunda speaking for hours tieing up the system till you win
To:
Single email saying you are fillabstering it.
Manchin and Sinema said if they touched the fillabuster in any way, no bill will make it out of the senate. That’s why it never got ended or at least make it harder to fillabuster things.
Here’s where it gets tricky, lots of people get lost.
For the best path forward and to ensure this doesn’t happen again we should:
Have a robust primary every election and replace incumbents that don’t agree with voters.
Blindly support Dem incumbents until they eventually lose to a Republican
Think about it, don’t just answer right away reflexively.
Which path forward actually leads to progress? I don’t want to rush you, but it’s an election year. Decisions made today we’re gonna be stuck with for 4-6 years.
Weird hiw Republicans can get what they want when they have just one chamber of Congress, but the Dems can’t do anything even when they have 2/3 between Congress and the White House. The Democrats keep hiding behind “we cant do that because it won’t pass” so things keep getting worse and worse for people, who blame the Democrats. If they started to actually campaign on things that will improve people’s lives like Medicare for all, lowering rent/housing prices, fixing college tuition, and breaking up giant corporations.
Its not some weird secret conspiracy by the Democratic leadership. The GOP generally has a much easier job. They get what they want by preventing anything from getting done. It’s much harder to create than destroy. Yes it’s on Democrat officials to actually follow through on their platform when they have the ability, but we can’t give them 51% in a system that requires 60% and be surprised when we don’t get sweeping legislation passed.
That’s before you factor in how different the demographic makeup of the parties being so different. The Democratic coalition includes far left, progressives, and moderates across the political spectrum with very different ideas. Some good, some bad. Some honest civil servants, some corporate sell outs. The GOP is made up of people who simply disagree about how public they want to make their goals known, they all have the same evil vision and they will all sell out their country.
First, Biden isn’t talking about banning all guns, he wants to regulate assault rifles and institute mandated background checks to stop children from being shot in their own neighborhoods every day.
Then, his administration includes the first black vice president, 25 appointed black judges, wrote that executive order about protecting minority voting rights since they’re targeted so often.
On the other side, dumps will say anything to get you to vote for him, and goes back on his promises anytime it’s personally inconvenient, so you can’t trust anything he says on guns or racial Justice.
Trump has apparently has given zero thought to racial Justice, which shouldn’t be surprising to anyone.
A hardcore second amendment voter will usually resist any and all measures that restrict firearm possession, often on the basis of slippery slope arguments. Since the basis is rooted in a classic logical fallacy, they can be very difficult to persuade.
You’re right though, Biden has been fairly moderate on gun control. So was Obama though, and you remember how they reacted to him?
I agree about gun zealotry, but if those are your two issues:
Biden has said he does not want to restrict most guns, but he does want to protect children.
Trump instituted gun control measures over his administration, and as with everything else has said he supports gun control and says he doesn’t support gun control depending on which crowd he’s talking to.
I guess you can consider that a wash.
But racial Justice? Clearly Biden all the way.
On those two points, biden’s clearly ahead.
If that guy is still undecided, then he cares significantly more about guns than he cares about racial justice or national leadership.
Well, I am not that guy for the record. But if you read the article it said he automatically rejects any candidate that advocates for gun control. So, that means Biden is flat out for him, along with pretty much the whole dem party.
The amusing part to me personally was that such a person would normally just vote gop. But that specific guy cannot, for fairly obvious reasons.
Trump did more than that; he advocated for simply seizing guns without due process. He’s worse than Biden from a second amendment perspective, not equal!
Reagan enacted the assault weapon bans when he was governor of CA in direct reaction to the growing popular power of the Black Panthers. So yeah, even people who actively work against racial justice know exactly what the score is.
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