I do not ageee with the poster you respond to, but false confessions are a serious problem. Often (in the US) they arise from hours long interrogations without a lawyer, in which police are allowed to lie about the evidence they have. This leads to situations where a suspect feels like they are done for even if they didn’t commit a crime. When a plea deal is then put in front of them which they are told would be much preferable to getting sentenced without it, they sign and admit to a crime they never committed. It shouldn’t happen but is a thing that unfortunately does occur.
Ryan Watson, 40, of Oklahoma, a father of two who was most recently arrested for unknowingly having ammo in his bag on April 12, remains on the island. Both men previously told Fox News Digital that they had the ammo in their bags from prior hunting trips.
Michael Lee Evans, 72, pleaded guilty to having ammunition in his bag on April 24, according to local news outlet the Turks & Caicos Sun. His sentencing hearing is scheduled for June 18.
I’m not fabricating anything. I’m skeptical that a bunch of irresponsible gun nuts keep getting caught in a nation no irresponsible gun nut has ever heard of, while somehow avoiding capture everywhere else.
Its also strange to me that people on a site all about ACAB when it comes to their own nations are not throwing that skepticism to a nation they also have likely never heard of.
You stated: It is very unlikely these people were carrying ammo.
they admitted to carrying the ammo.
look buddy just because you’re not familiar with the turks doesn’t mean it’s not real. your lack of experience and geography knowledge doesn’t poof it out of existence.
I like that I reference the fact that irresponsible gun owners suddenly flocking end masse to a place they wouldn’t have hears of turns into you accusing me of having never hears of that place.
Like… What? Okay.
I get it, you like to argue on the internet and being mr. Smarty pants is super important to you. But at least make sense.
I like that I reference the fact that irresponsible gun owners suddenly flocking end masse to a place they wouldn’t have hears of turns into you accusing me of having never hears of that place.
en masse.
not end.
why the fuck would people flock to a place they’d never heard of? do you stop to read the shit you’re writing?
I don’t like to argue on the internet, I like to point out how stupid, inane, and poorly constructed your arguments are. I’m sorry, but I don’t have the time or crayons to draw you a picture so it’d make sense to you.
I mean there was some Nazi guy caught masturbating to gay porn and his Nazi supporters now claim it’s the Jew provocation. Do you really expect a different outcome here?
Right… I mean, to be quite honest… if Biden/Trump in 2024 is the best they can come up with, maybe something like that will waken up the Democrats to actual consequences when they continue to run such shitty candidates.
The reason we got Trump in the first place is cause of the DNC and corporate Democrats that wanted him to win over Bernie. They just had Rachel Maddow and all the feelings-over-reality shills on the left working overtime to convince their party that it was somehow Bernie supporters fault.
Not really. The reason we got him is the people who voted for him. I was a bernie supported but I voted hilary. there is plenty of time to fix the democrats or completely eliminate the republicans and we will get a new second party anyway as dems are always pretty ready to fracture. Republicans winning is the only thing keeping dems at statis quo.
They wanted him to win because he COULD win. Bernie couldn’t. I say this as someone that aggressively supported Bernie.
The problem is that you don’t understand what’s at stake, so you can rest on your single-issue outrage and think you’re in a place to demand better.
You’re not in that place. The rest of us know that, but you refuse to listen. So you and others like you will do what you did in 2016- fold your arms and throw a temper tantrum.
Bernie couldn’t win. Tell that to Hillary… cause she sure did lose and is why Trump got into office in the first place. Don’t forget the DNC admitted that they had a “right” to sabotage Bernie, because they had no obligation to be impartial.
I don’t know what you think… that I won’t vote for Biden given that is my only choice, or that people can’t talk bad about Biden and the state of the DNC else Trump might win. If you believe the latter, then you should rethink who you’re upset with.
Seriously, does anyone believe this? Trump is the DNC fault? Ridiculous. It’s certainly not the RNCs fault or republican voters for choosing him. And it’s certainly not the voters fault for voting for him, or people protest voting because they don’t want a woman or whatever. No, it’s not even the electoral colleges fault! It’s the DNC for not pushing Bernie. I can’t believe I voted for the leopards eating faces party and now my face is eaten! Damn you Hillary!
So instead of addressing anything I wrote you move the goalposts and start hurling insults? Like sure, it would be great if we can go forward and hold the powers that be accountable for shady crap, but how is that relevant to this election? Unless of course your goal is really to sow dissent and try to get trump elected.
Are you sure I’m the one who ‘lacks intellectual capacity’?
Cool story. I’ll just block you so I don’t have to worry about that. That’s what you suggest people do when you all refuse to moderate, right? Just tell people to block the problem So you don’t have to show your biases?
Also, the mods have very little to do as they seeming refuse to remove comments that point-blank blatantly break your rules. Even after asking them to do something about it- two of you refused to even respond to the reports annd private messages, and one of you trolled me for a day, side-stepping the issue without ever addressing the complaint. Meanwhile, you’ve removed comments from myself and other that break vague rules of “uncivility.”
Yet when the same rules are broken by certain others- you ignore the reports and then threaten to ban people when they message you about it.
So let’s not pretend that you’re all hard working unbiased gifts to lemmy.
You’re not. And there’s a lot of people that are very aware of this.
A lot of comments get reported for breaking the rules when they absolutely do not. I’ve seen reports on “bad language” when there’s no restriction on that whatever, so long as it’s not directed at other users.
Want to call the subject of an article some pejorative? Go for it! Just don’t direct it at other users and we’re golden.
There in lies the problem. These comments accuse me (and others) of blatantly false bullshit. I’ve done the same thing from the opposite side, and gotten comments removed- yet, their accusations remain.
Again, I say BULLSHIT.
there’s a very strong bias among the mods in this community. Many have spoken out against it- and you silence every one of them.
Just drop it. We both know this is a pointless debate you will ultimately win because of your authority here.
No, if 2016 didn’t wake them up I don’t think anything will, I’m pretty thoroughly convinced they would still be whining about Nader voters as they were being taken to the gallows by Republicans,
Everyone who can be woke already is and its just about calling out their dumb moderate ideas while they can still be stopped and primarying their people with real progressives. Democratic candidates losing to Republicans doesn’t make that any easier, if anything it just empowers moderates because the “leftist purity tests did this” narrative plays really well with low information voters.
I never comment in politics threads. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and invites the kind of discourse I try to avoid recreationally.
But I had to reply to you because a) it’s weird how much I’m seeing the word “begging” lately, and b) what kind of “begging” should he even do? “Please, please, please vote for me?” And how would that change things at all? Or even help?
I mean the previous commenter is making it sound like Democrats are going to be executed if Trump is elected. Did I interpret that correctly? Does Biden know that? Is he worried? Because he doesn’t seem worried at all to me.
I asked you what begging is supposed to look like here or accomplish; you tried to get me to defend what someone else said. I point out I’m not them and I asked you a question; so you pivot again to "my statement with a “yeah?” at the end is now a question so address that first.
I’m cutting my losses. You’ll just move the posts to try and force me to address whatever it is you think I should be addressing instead, because you don’t actually have an answer and you’re not interested in a real discussion.
My mistake. This is why I don’t engage in politics threads online. You never know when someone is being serious and has an actual answer and is capable of a dialogue versus when some jackass just wants to waste your time.
He asked for clarification on the question you asked.
“I will not answer your clarifying question until you answer my question you want clarification on” is a bizarre take unless your question is entirely disingenuous and you don’t actually care about the answer.
If they’re arguing in bad faith, odds are high they’re just a right-wing operative intending to sow defeatism and wedge-drive. Often they’ll pretend being a concerned centrist but nowadays they feign being a leftist or tankie, which kills two birds with one stone.
With this in mind don’t stop commenting, just make your strongest arguments upfront and target the bystander audience. It’s the only way to act as damage-control. But don’t waste your time with them, specifically.
I flipped up through the chain and only now am I seeing all the edits they made. I knew something was screwy when they replied to my reply to myself- dude was camping this thread. Definitely not a good faith.
I do not have the energy to argue with such a waste of time. I don’t understand people who find enjoyment in “arguing” like that person does.
And when responding, make sure to point out there’s no controversy, there was never a “gotcha”, those arguments were never missed or ignored, the truth was never in question.
Because the goal is to make people doubt, making people think there’s more support for the false narratives than there really is, so you have to IMMEDIATELY reinforce that they’re liars in your opening statement (or they got their talking points from liars).
One of the best ways to do it is to demonstrate their questions are so basic you didn’t need to put effort in to answering them, and doing it by answering with links is very effective at that. “but they won’t read the links” - yes but that’s not the point, the point is to nerf their ability to steal attention and accurate links does in fact do that because it reduces the likelihood of other trolls joining and it’s easier to end the thread there.
If you were genuinely trying to get answers to “why isn’t the president begging for votes” you would’ve answered me when I asked what the hell that means. You proved it’s not your genuine priority by trying to get me to defend a point someone else was making instead.
Get outta here with that Crowder bullshit. If you’re asking questions and you want answers you’ll be happy to explain your position, not point at someone else and try and change the topic at the first opportunity. And assuming, generously, that that was a mistake, you wouldn’t have doubled down on “well answer my rhetorical that I refuse to define for you first or you’re just proving you can’t debate me!”
All of the time I spent typing this was on the very, very, very slim chance you mean well but are an ineffective communicator. Since that’s statistically unlikely, feel free to reply however you like. I have no interest in continuing with you further.
If you were genuinely trying to get answers to “why isn’t the president begging for votes” you would’ve answered me when I asked what the hell that means
They never were. Their purpose here is to troll. Which is ironic, because it just makes their entirely ideology look as ignorant and foolish as we already know it to be.
I mean I’d like to think he’s worried, and will actually start talking about nationalizing marijuana legalization with actual plan to implement it, or to make internet a utility… but he seems to think backing israel and getting some 20 year old debts canceled, and then reversed by the supreme court, is going to get him enough votes
How do you know he’s chill about it? Have you not heard what he’s said in public about Trump?
Rhetorical question, don’t bother answering. You know the answer, and you’re lying to pretend that you don’t. You’re trying to establish a false perception that Biden hasn’t done anything.
Wedge driving? Ask yourself, why are Democrats so scared? If you pick the best person on your team to go up the worst player of the opposition, you wouldn’t be scared.
I mean, I’m scared because people I love are being made illegal and/or having their rights revoked. I’m scared because 8 years ago, I didn’t know half of my country were only pretending not to be some combination of antisemitic, white nationalist, eagerly awaiting a chance to shoot their neighbors and anti-vaccine. Like, I knew that was the general flavor where I lived, but I didn’t know it was this bad everywhere.
Ah who cares about actual reality when we can have a “Biden = bad” stroke off contest?
Nevermind the fact that prior to 2016 most people’s lives in the US weren’t a daily slog through a political hell scape, here’s Internet Johnny to remind you that the US has always been this fascist and at each other’s throats so it’s fine actually if Trump wins. Nevermind your lying eyes, ears, and memory.
We vote now to maintain and carry this frustration and momentum to make change. What we don’t do is shoot ourselves in both feet and wonder why we can’t walk.
So you’re under a lot of frustration by voting Biden? Or you are saying you’re so scared to say anything negative about him because he isn’t a very good candidate and you’re scared he’ll lose to Trump?
Stop commenting on posts and attempting to twist narratives by offering the illusion of choice. You’re creating traps by seeming to offer two separate choices that lead towards the same outcome. So here’s the reality:
Trump sucks. The Republican party acts purely in its own interest. People who support either the candidate or the party do so because they believe harming others is an action they can support if it means some end they do mental backflips to justify. The majority of those supporting do not act in good faith in discussions and instead attempt to derail conversations with barely relevant “facts” and by making others feel as if they need to defend something, while also being unreasonable.
I support anyone who isn’t claiming they will be a dictator. I support anyone who is attempting to enact positive and lasting change, which you will attack. I support those who do not attempt coups.
It isn’t a matter of who I support, it is about what I support… and neither candidate offers it. So, yes I’m stuck voting for Biden which isn’t really a choice. But I’ve already been in this position before, and it is a bad choice by Democrats to have another election where people aren’t really excited about the candidate and to simply argue that if you don’t vote for Biden, that you’ll get Trump.
Anyone who feels the freedom to fuck with our elections or disenfranchise voters should have the book thrown at them, maximum penalties under the statutes.
I would potentially settled for letting us throw books at them. These people are so fond of their book that tells them to stone people, let’s start using hardback copies of it to give them a visceral history lesson.
The local vote, which was eventually certified under pressure from state officials…
and further down:
“The Constitution and Michigan Election Law do not authorize boards of county canvassers to refuse to certify election results based on claims made by third parties of alleged election irregularities, or a general desire to conduct election investigations,” the letter says. Failure to certify would mean that the clerk would have to personally deliver all records including ballots and voting machines to Michigan state canvassers — all at the county’s own expense. The price tag, the letter adds pointedly, will be “expansive.”
Spoiler alert. It’s all fun and games until you actually have to put in work. Shouting random crap you read off Facebook doesn’t work in the real world.
Biden is worried, it’s fairly obvious. However, he is trying to be a leader, which is foremost the job of the President: To lead. I don’t envy him either. We are a very divided country right now. Yeah, some of you will talk about the war. Others about his bipartisanship. Someone will want to throw their hat in about other issues, perceived or otherwise. Let’s be real though: Dude has had his work cut out for him. So while he hasn’t been perfect I honestly and truly feel it could have been much worse.
At the very least he has completed, and is working on, many of the promises he initially made. Gotta give props where they are due. Though he was never my first choice.
If he wasn’t worried, Biden would be much worse than he’s been(aka, the average for POTUS). He’s the best we’ve had since Carter, which is a condemnation of the office rather than praise of Biden.
If we got the President lemmy wants, a civil war would be the best scenario, but a coup would be more likely. The better the president, the harder their job. The more left wing candidate is always held to a higher standard.
Hey. Hey 'member - member that time when trump was just taking office and one of the things is predisents have to get a medical exam in the first year and everybody was like “oh ho now trump has to face a real doctor and not just his crazy pill doctor before the election who wrote his recommendation in the limo on the way to the airport, this is gonna be a military doctor and we’ll get his actual height and weight and all the stuff, he won’t be able to lie anymore about wearing lifts and a girdle and a diaper because they’ll all be out in the open like the founders intended” hahahaha
Ahhh. No seriously we thought that at least there was a chance a real navy doctor would at least give proper stats and so on.
NOPE. It was Ronny “gakked to the gills” Jackson! Motherfucker. He came out for this press conference and was Scaramucci-like in his disgusting tonguebath of trumps bloated carcass. “So healthy! Good genes! He’ll live a long fucking time! WHOOOO!!!” he said, while snorting up a crushed percocet. Or something like that.
Fucking Ronny Jackson. OF COURSE Texas elected him to the house. Of course they did. Why wouldn’t they.
What I find remarkable is that Ronny Jackson was the WH doctor for part of the Obama administration, too, and Obama was the one who recommended him for the promotion to Admiral in the first place. (That bit was in the WaPo article this is based on)
I remember the pod save America guys talking about him before he was a Texas rep. They were saying how much they liked him and how he helped them sleep and stay up. Being a Dr Feelgood is probably very expected for the role.
It’s easy to be good when you’re sitting in church with your family. It’s easy to let all the stops out when you’re in the backroom of an afterhours club.
We could just get someone middle aged with the energy for the job
This is america. The boomers will never let go until they are dead or dying. Thankfully the vast majority of them have done nothing to take care of their meat suits so they should be checking out sooner than later.
There’s also part of it being that the president might need to be turned on in the middle of the night for some important thing and then turned back off when it’s sorted. This may be part of why presidents age so quickly.
Trump is a clown and the media wants to run the circus. The only reason they want Biden there is to play the straight man and add an air of legitimacy to the show.
Saying that costs nothing. It would have been a hell of a lot more impressive if he hadn't worked so hard to stack the court and put us in this situation to begin with. Fuck you, Mitch.
It didn’t mention it in this article, but the NY Times reported that Bolick directly referenced her own pregnancies in debate, one of which was not viable:
Before casting her pivotal vote, Ms. Bolick stood up and began a long, deeply personal speech describing her own three challenging pregnancies, including one that ended with an abortion procedure in her first trimester because the fetus was not viable.
“Would Arizona’s pre-Roe law have allowed me to have this medical procedure even though my life wasn’t in danger?” she asked.
Like a true Conservative, she only came to her decision because it affected her personally. Still, it was enough to push it through.
Her motivations aren’t even as noble as that. The article goes on to describe how she’s actually just trying to undercut a proposed constitutional amendment:
But Ms. Bolick also railed against Planned Parenthood and Democratic support for abortion rights. She argued that her vote to repeal the 1864 ban could be Arizona’s best shot at curbing the momentum behind a proposed ballot measure to enshrine abortion protections in the state constitution.
This list is fucking crazy. I’m sure it would be fucken hard for an average person to even obtain this many felonies. Absolute insanity. Check your darksign cause I think the fire is going out.
In most cases yes, you’re right. In this case I honestly believe they’re [mostly] dragging their feet out of caution. Trump isn’t so rich in money as his followers are in potential. It’s a similar reason why I don’t think they’ve locked him up. If they did I heavily suspect he’d be made a martyr and regardless of that result his cult maga idiots will flock to where ever they think he is and cause all sorts of issues.
Well the fire represents disparity, i.e. privilege. The darksign was a curse that was created to oppress the masses and keep humanity from gaining power. When the flames fail it’ll finally be the age of humanity.
But the Dark Soul is Humanity’s soul, broken up among mortals. Kaathe was right: killing the fire is the goal. Keeping it alight like Gwyn did past it’s normal period brought ruin to the world and disturbed the natural order. I.e. the rich and powerful stole humanity’s time and fate!
I doubt, it their entire party coincidentally picks whatever portion of the Bible is convenient for them that day and pack it up for their moronic base to rally behind.
These people believed Russia was the devil a few years ago and suddenly they don’t care about Ukraine anymore.
Literally yes. Israel's Apartheid is inherently unsustainable and has been surviving using international support (mainly from the US and UK in recent years). Take away the biggest pillar and the whole thing will collapse. Maybe by, say, not vetoing UN resolutions or sending Israel aircraft carriers.
Support UN enforcement of the resulting resolution for a ceasefire
Stop funding Israel
Apply the same kind of sanctions the US applied to Ethiopia when it was committing similar human rights abuses in Tigray a couple of years ago.
Israel is currently killing people directly at a rate of about 3.6% of the population per year. That's not a situation that's bern going on for 75 years.
Support UN enforcement of the resulting resolution for a ceasefire
No country on earth is dump enough to send peacekeepers to that garbage fire. You might as well line up a thousand of your own men and march them one by one into a cattle grinding machine. It would be far far cheaper and more humane.
If the US withdrew support that would be it. If Israel lost the West's support I don't think it would attack the UN forces and Hamas has hardly any capabilities.
Wouldn't surprise me if the African Union was up for it if it had world support.
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